j~nAna and bhakti

[Guest guest]

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> Bobby,

>

> is there a way to do vichara

> at this point?

>

> I don't like my spontanity...

>

 

Dear Karta:

 

Good question. I will admit that when I do atma vichara I feel like

it is Ramana in my heart instead of the guy I grew up being. I mean

the boy who worked in the grocery store, drew pictures, and was shy

around girls. There was always the inner person that never changed.

Vichara centers me on that inner person that I imagine is Ramana.

That is the centerpiece of my own attitude about pravilapa drishti,

all that seems separate from me is myself.

 

I think what you are saying is you don't want to act spontaneously in

ways that get you into trouble and would vichara eliminate this. I

don't know.

 

There must be something about your impulsiveness that you like.

Maybe you like to be angry. It is a pleasurable feeling. Not so much

later when you have to extract yourself from the results.

 

If you Forgive your transgressors you get a similar release.

 

Love

Bobby G.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your comments Eric and questions and as you know TexasBob and

John Logan and many knowledgeable people can answer you. I am on the Advaitin

list and do post there. For those interested, you can join the Advaitin.

It has a little different atmosphere than our list but very knowledgeable

people on Sanskrit and scriptures. Someone just asked me a question there

about my background and this is what I posted.

No, I have not studied any scriptures formally

and have no training in

Sanskrit. I understand Hindi and Punjabi fairly well. I was fluent in

reading Hindi until I was a teenager and have read various stories in

Hindi including Ramayana, Mahabharta (Gita being part of that) and

related areas. Most things I have read like Vivekachudamani and others

texts have been in English. In fact, now if I wish to read something, it

has to be an English translation as I cannot read Hindi like I used to.

I am generally familiar with scriptures from English translations.

Advaitin group has many knowledgeable people and scholars with deep

insights. Being part of this group has made me appreciate even more how

simple and beautiful the utterances and indications are in our

Upanishads and so many other texts like Avadhuta Gita. So I feel

fortunate to be part of this group.

My own group is called . We have an electronic journal in

which we put stories, essays, poetry, and art. The third volume is near

completion but we are still accepting articles.

/join

 

I am a devotee of Sri Ramana Maharshi.

Harsha

paroissien wrote:

dear harsha,

i spent more than two hours on this one

does "shravaNa-manana-dhyAna" mean that:

- jayji relies only on sacred books (a limited corpus)

- that he has an immortal soul and distinct from brahman

- but that there is a flaw in meditation because it relies

on an aspect of memory (like an individual soul would)

- if parabrahman is self-evident doesn't it show that this

evidence shines from one self?

- could advaita mean meditation on "unreal" or

"formless"; aren't we try as long as the enquiry keeps

meanings from dispersion thus active

(isn't the source of investigation it's end too?)

- i wonder why single-pointedness, self-enquiry,

concentration, attention on impulses and the tool it

represents is not mentionned in his message

i had some fun time with this one

please excuse my stubborn interference

this shravaNa-manana-dhyAna is new to me

in peace

eric

, professorhkl

<professorhkl@n...> wrote:

> My comments are at the bottom of the post. I will pass this on to

HS as

> well.

>

> Harsha

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