Response to Mazie (fwd)

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DearOnes,

i was thrust by the heartstrings into a most interesting inquiry this

morning. Here is part of the exchange -

Anna writes: Hi AAron,

I used to live in Encinitas, CA and was a part of Yogananda church. I

also knew closely few of his disciples and students. I was told

thatYogananda was very mean to people and often verbally abusive

especially towomen whom he used as servants.

Anna

Mazie writes: Hello DearOnes,

Well now, you can’t imagine the inquiry I just went through after

reading this. It was a real heart-jerker. Maya isn’t called Mystery

for nothing and life and all it offers is surely Mayaic Mystery for

free, for nothing! Just your life! The subtleties of mind allow any

and all doubts and fears to creep in so slyly that we aren’t even

aware where they came from, only that we know we suddenly feel

pierced and the heart aches and the head spins and then….we can only

sit down quietly and examine what’s arising.

So I backed away from the computer as if I had been slapped, wishing

and thinking, "Gawd, why did this have to come up? Now I gotta look

at it!" Ahhh, vasana! In my complete identification to my guru, I was

immersed in the old and reliable rituals of rejection and having to

ask myself, "Sooo, you thought that you were free from any worry or

attachment that finding something you held sacred was actually a

gigantic fraud and now you have to go tell Aaron that you were wrong

and then you have to accept that maybe your entire life was built

upon a fraud and lie and yadda yadda yadda to the nth degree."

As I was sitting downstairs on the green ghost ship thinking of b and

how much I wanted to share with him my final understanding and coming

to terms with of this that was before me now, I realized that even as

I sat in doubt and confusion I was already aware that its solution

was guaranteed and that this that I was experiencing was a wonderful,

most exquisite opportunity to put into practice the very thing that I

was advising Aaron to do – give up feeling attached to the behaviors

and/or projected behaviors of others, even that of the guru or

teacher.

Still held in the sharp clasp of emotional, psycho-physiological

response to a perceived threat to my identity’s safety and security,

the ego would have me despair and I felt great sorrow come over me

unto heartbreak. I thought again of Aaron and what he’s been going

through and felt the deepest most cutting Compassion for him and for

everyone who ever felt this enormous weight upon the heart. Funny

thing too, as the Beloved would have it, a song was playing on the

radio called "My Baby Blue," by John Hiatt and the Goners. It

shredded me and ripped my emotional heart even wider open.

And then I sent a call, a Heart-Call out to the Universe, calling Beloved Gurudeva.

Immediately I was pierced again, but this time with clarity and

purposeful reasoning. I remembered that Guruji had openly talked

about how he would berate the dickens out of Faye Wright, later known

as Sri Daya Mata. What the Guru gives to each disciple is for that

disciple alone based on their personal spiritual needs. In a monastic

community where folks are striving to remain calm and silent and never

crossing arrows, where will they be tested in the things that we are

tested with while living in the world, while we live and learn in

places like the internet? How will they recognize their weakneeses

and the ancient identifications to past experiences of contraction

and recoil if they are not brought before each one to look at, to

inquire about? The Guru gives what the disciple needs. Sri Ramana

also, and Balsekar and Nisargadatta all berated the shit out of

disciples if it was needed. We can not know what great and divine

work the Guru does with each disciple, even if it is just in the play

and part of the illusion. That part of the illusion wants to work in

that particular way. What can we know based on our limited

understanding, not even understanding our true nature and who and

what we are? I got no leg to stand on and my head is a bucket of lies

upon lies and there lies my answer.

I trust in Love.

Love trusts in me.

Whether Paramahansa Yogananda were a fraud and fake is of little

concern at all. What I received and learned is immeasurable and

incomprehensible and that gift is Love and that gift came through my

experiences of Love with Paramahansa Yogananda. That same gift, that

same Love comes through all who test us, all who kiss us, all who

deceive us and all who please and pleasure us. It is the Pleasure of

the One to don myriad marketable containers for Love. OneHeart is

ever-shining in everything and everyone and there is nothing and no

one which is not perfect and more perfect than we will ever

understand as long as we continue to identify with limitations to

what and how Love expresses ItSelf.

Jai Gurudeva! Jai Paramahansa Yogananda!

Thanks so much for this inquiry and surrender, Dear, Treasured

friends, Aaron and Anna.God is Gracious! For you, my Beloveds, a poem

by Yoganandaji -

Samadhi

Vanished the veils of light and shade,

Lifted every vapor of sorrow,

Sailed away all dawns of fleeting joy,

Gone the dim sensory mirage.

Love, hate, health, disease, life, death,

Perished these false shadows on the screen of duality.

Waves of laughter, scyllas of sarcasm, melancholic whirlpools,

Melting in the vast sea of bliss.

The storm of maya stilled

By magic wand of intuition deep.

The universe, forgotten dream, subconsciously lurks,

Ready to invade my newly-wakened memory divine.

I live without the cosmic shadow,

But it is not, bereft of me;

As the sea exists without the waves,

But they breathe not without the sea.

Dreams, wakings, states of deep turia sleep,

Present, past, future, no more for me,

But ever-present, all-flowing I, I, everywhere.

Planets, stars, stardust, earth,

Volcanic bursts of doomsday cataclysms,

Creation's molding furnace,

Glaciers of silent x-rays, burning electron floods,

Thoughts of all men, past, present, to come,

Every blade of grass, myself, mankind,

Each particle of universal dust,

Anger, greed, good, bad, salvation, lust,

I swallowed, transmuted all

Into a vast ocean of blood of my own one Being!

Smoldering joy, oft-puffed by meditation

Blinding my tearful eyes,

Burst into immortal flames of bliss,

Consumed my tears, my frame, my all.

Thou art I, I am Thou,

Knowing, Knower, Known, as One!

Tranquilled, unbroken thrill, eternally living, ever-new peace!

Enjoyable beyond imagination of expectancy, samadhi bliss!

Not an unconscious state

Or mental chloroform without wilful return,

Samadhi but extends my conscious realm

Beyond limits of the mortal frame

To farthest boundary of eternity

Where I, the Cosmic Sea,

Watch the little ego floating in Me.

The sparrow, each grain of sand, fall not without My sight.

All space floats like an iceberg in My mental sea.

Colossal Container, I, of all things made.

By deeper, longer, thirsty, guru-given meditation

Comes this celestial samadhi.

Mobile murmurs of atoms are heard,

The dark earth, mountains, vales, lo! molten liquid!

Flowing seas change into vapors of nebulae!

Aum blows upon vapors, opening wondrously their veils,

Oceans stand revealed, shining electrons,

Till, at last sound of the cosmic drum,

Vanish the grosser lights into eternal rays

Of all-pervading bliss.

>From joy I came, for joy I live, in sacred joy I melt.

Ocean of mind, I drink all creation's waves.

Four veils of solid, liquid, vapor, light,

Lift aright.

Myself, in everything, enters the Great Myself.

Gone forever, fitful, flickering shadows of mortal memory.

Spotless is my mental sky, below, ahead, and high above.

Eternity and I, one united ray.

A tiny bubble of laughter, I

Am become the Sea of Mirth Itself.

LoveAlways,

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[Guest guest]

Mazie Lane wrote:

 

Immediately I was pierced again, but this time with clarity and purposeful

reasoning. I remembered that Guruji had openly talked about how he would

berate the dickens out of Faye Wright, later known as Sri Daya Mata. What

the Guru gives to each disciple is for that disciple alone based on their

personal spiritual needs. In a monastic community where folks are striving

to remain calm and silent and never crossing arrows, where will they be tested

in the things that we are tested with while living in the world, while we

live and learn in places like the internet? How will they recognize their

weakneeses and the ancient identifications to past experiences of contraction

and recoil if they are not brought before each one to look at, to inquire

about? The Guru gives what the disciple needs. Sri Ramana also, and Balsekar

and Nisargadatta all berated the shit out of disciples if it was needed.

Hi Mazie, I know this is deep stuff that you are saying, but Sri

Ramana typically did not berate devotees.

Although it is possible to mention Sri Ramana along with Baleskar and others,

the Sage of Arunachala is in a class of his own.

Once in a while Ramana got angry when he was given preferential treatment

by devotees (given a larger share of the food or special food, etc.). There

are a few other incidents of Sri Ramana being angry but they are far and

few in-between. Sri Ramana was known to treat everyone with the utmost respect

and courtesy.

I am not saying that Swami Yogananda was not a great person.

Each person is attracted to experiences and a teacher that they are ready

for in some way.

I was fortunate in that in the spiritual guidance, I was always shown kindness,

love, and respect. That is all I know as being proper on the spiritual path.

Everything else, I stay away from. But that's just me.

The real question is not ultimately whether a teacher is false or true or

a jerk or whatever.

But whether we have found peace and satisfaction and understanding and become

transparent.

Self-Realization makes the question of false and true teachers moot. Each

is serving some purpose in the overall scheme of things.

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

, Harsha wrote:

> Mazie Lane wrote:

 

Beloved Harshaji,

 

Yes, of course, to everything that you've written here...Yes!

 

Jai Sri Ramana!

Jai to Kindness!

Jai to Love in infinite expression!

 

 

LoveAlways,

 

Mazie

>

> > Immediately I was pierced again, but this time with clarity and

> > purposeful reasoning. I remembered that Guruji had openly talked

about

> > how he would berate the dickens out of Faye Wright, later known

as Sri

> > Daya Mata. What the Guru gives to each disciple is for that

disciple

> > alone based on their personal spiritual needs. In a monastic

community

> > where folks are striving to remain calm and silent and never

crossing

> > arrows, where will they be tested in the things that we are

tested

> > with while living in the world, while we live and learn in places

like

> > the internet? How will they recognize their weakneeses and the

ancient

> > identifications to past experiences of contraction and recoil if

they

> > are not brought before each one to look at, to inquire about? The

Guru

> > gives what the disciple needs. Sri Ramana also, and Balsekar and

> > Nisargadatta all berated the shit out of disciples if it was

needed.

> >

>

> Hi Mazie, I know this is deep stuff that you are saying, but Sri

Ramana

> typically did not berate devotees.

>

> Although it is possible to mention Sri Ramana along with Baleskar

and

> others, the Sage of Arunachala is in a class of his own.

>

> Once in a while Ramana got angry when he was given preferential

> treatment by devotees (given a larger share of the food or special

> food, etc.). There are a few other incidents of Sri Ramana being

angry

> but they are far and few in-between. Sri Ramana was known to treat

> everyone with the utmost respect and courtesy.

>

> I am not saying that Swami Yogananda was not a great person.

>

> Each person is attracted to experiences and a teacher that they are

> ready for in some way.

>

> I was fortunate in that in the spiritual guidance, I was always

shown

> kindness, love, and respect. That is all I know as being proper on

the

> spiritual path. Everything else, I stay away from. But that's just

me.

>

> The real question is not ultimately whether a teacher is false or

true

> or a jerk or whatever.

>

> But whether we have found peace and satisfaction and understanding

and

> become transparent.

>

> Self-Realization makes the question of false and true teachers

moot.

> Each is serving some purpose in the overall scheme of things.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

> >