Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Dear All, Kundalini is a powerful spiritual energy to help the advancement of human spiritual growth. This energy was created by God, Divine Source to help human spiritual growth towards self-realization. IMHO, God, Divine Source, never created something without purpose and never the God's creation is useless after some times. It is our human ignorance and limited knowledge and understanding about Kundalini and its benefits that lead us to the understanding that Kundalini is not related to Self Realization. IMHO, Kundalini is a must to attain self realization. What is Self Realization? Self Realization means you realize who you are, who your true identity is and understand fully the character of the true self. We are not human being. Our true identity is spirit, Atman, as spark of Divine Source, as explained in many holy books of many religions. So, someone who already attain true self consciousness can then be identified as people who start to attain self realization. When he/she fully understand the nature and character of his/her true self as spirit then he/she can be called self realized person. It is a very high level of spiritual achievement and it is not easy to find such people in this modern age. What is the relation between self realization and Kundalini? Kundalini is one of the best energy that can be used to help human to attain self realization. The process to attain self realization involves the development of all major chakras and the cleansing of all our energy body layers to help us increase our energy vibration. Attaining higher level of consciousness simply means attaining higher level of energy vibration. This process can only be possible through the proper Kundalini processes. Without kundalini energy, it is impossible to have proper major chakra development and energy body layers cleansing. That is why Kundalini is very important in this process. Those who seems not using Kundalini in their spiritual progress area actually already have good Kundalini progress from many previous reincarnations and this process is a continuation process from one life to the next life. So, in this life, he/she may not need to practice Kundalini anymore to awaken the Kundalini because their Kundalini is already in good state, but for sure they do need Kundalini to attain such high level of spiritual achievement and that will be impossible without Kundalini. And this kind of person is very small in number. For most of us, that will be very wrong if we say that Kundalini is not important to attain self realization, just because we look at some small number of people who already have good Kundalini state before this life time. To understand Kundalini properly, we do need to understand the evolution of our reincarnation that may already last for thousands of years Love&Light, Rama 4. kundilini? > "devianandi" <devi > 5. Re: kundalini? > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 > Mon, 26 May 2003 00:29:19 -0000 > "devianandi" <devi >kundilini? > >hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini >expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a >realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely >devi > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 5 > Mon, 26 May 2003 03:41:03 -0000 > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit >Re: kundalini? > >, "devianandi" <devi@p...> wrote: > > hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini > > expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a > > realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely > > devi > >dear devi, >the whole buddhist and zen world (china, south-east asia, japan) is a >vast domain of non-kundalini wonderful awakenings. >the guys are just here in their "ordinary mind" >now too >in happiness >eric > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > >Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 devi: hi rama, that was a post that spoke to me, ..i had a tremendous kundilina expereince in 1977, i didn't do anything to provoke it, i was more interested in the process of surrending and serving and loving and remembering God....in other words, i knew about kundilini but was not seeking the experience through kundilini yoga or pranyama etc etc...since having that expereince i never had the chance to discuss it with others in an intelligent way and recently became curious if it was a mandatory step,,,if all reailzers had consciously expereinced that beautiful movement of energy..so,, i'm taking it that you think that before total realiztion that energy will be felt? simple yes or no answer would be *greatly* apprecialted... namaste and smiles , IGPB Paramajaya <ama@b...> wrote: > Dear All, > > Kundalini is a powerful spiritual energy to help the advancement of human > spiritual growth. > This energy was created by God, Divine Source to help human spiritual > growth towards self-realization. IMHO, God, Divine Source, never created > something without purpose and never the God's creation is useless after > some times. > > It is our human ignorance and limited knowledge and understanding about > Kundalini and its benefits that lead us to the understanding that Kundalini > is not related to Self Realization. IMHO, Kundalini is a must to attain > self realization. > > What is Self Realization? > Self Realization means you realize who you are, who your true identity is > and understand fully the character of the true self. > > We are not human being. Our true identity is spirit, Atman, as spark of > Divine Source, as explained in many holy books of many religions. > So, someone who already attain true self consciousness can then be > identified as people who start to attain self realization. When he/she > fully understand the nature and character of his/her true self as spirit > then he/she can be called self realized person. It is a very high level of > spiritual achievement and it is not easy to find such people in this modern > age. > > What is the relation between self realization and Kundalini? > Kundalini is one of the best energy that can be used to help human to > attain self realization. > The process to attain self realization involves the development of all > major chakras and the cleansing of all our energy body layers to help us > increase our energy vibration. Attaining higher level of consciousness > simply means attaining higher level of energy vibration. > This process can only be possible through the proper Kundalini processes. > Without kundalini energy, it is impossible to have proper major chakra > development and energy body layers cleansing. That is why Kundalini is very > important in this process. > > Those who seems not using Kundalini in their spiritual progress area > actually already have good Kundalini progress from many previous > reincarnations and this process is a continuation process from one life to > the next life. So, in this life, he/she may not need to practice Kundalini > anymore to awaken the Kundalini because their Kundalini is already in good > state, but for sure they do need Kundalini to attain such high level of > spiritual achievement and that will be impossible without Kundalini. And > this kind of person is very small in number. > > For most of us, that will be very wrong if we say that Kundalini is not > important to attain self realization, just because we look at some small > number of people who already have good Kundalini state before this life time. > > To understand Kundalini properly, we do need to understand the evolution of > our reincarnation that may already last for thousands of years > > Love&Light, > Rama > > > > > 4. kundilini? > > "devianandi" <devi@p...> > > 5. Re: kundalini? > > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit@a...> > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > >Message: 4 > > Mon, 26 May 2003 00:29:19 -0000 > > "devianandi" <devi@p...> > >kundilini? > > > >hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini > >expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a > >realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely > >devi > > > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > >Message: 5 > > Mon, 26 May 2003 03:41:03 -0000 > > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit@a...> > >Re: kundalini? > > > >, "devianandi" <devi@p...> wrote: > > > hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini > > > expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a > > > realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely > > > devi > > > >dear devi, > >the whole buddhist and zen world (china, south-east asia, japan) is a > >vast domain of non-kundalini wonderful awakenings. > >the guys are just here in their "ordinary mind" > >now too > >in happiness > >eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 devi: so, now you made a window for me to ask the next question...i am assuming your an expert on kundilini and self-realiztion,,what i am wondering is if you can manipulate your kundilii still even after self-realization...i just had that one powerful experience and i'm wondering if i can get it again and again??? thanks you devi > > Kundalini is a powerful spiritual energy to help the advancement of human > spiritual growth. > This energy was created by God, Divine Source to help human spiritual > growth towards self-realization. IMHO, God, Divine Source, never created > something without purpose and never the God's creation is useless after > some times. > > It is our human ignorance and limited knowledge and understanding about > Kundalini and its benefits that lead us to the understanding that Kundalini > is not related to Self Realization. IMHO, Kundalini is a must to attain > self realization. > > What is Self Realization? > Self Realization means you realize who you are, who your true identity is > and understand fully the character of the true self. > > We are not human being. Our true identity is spirit, Atman, as spark of > Divine Source, as explained in many holy books of many religions. > So, someone who already attain true self consciousness can then be > identified as people who start to attain self realization. When he/she > fully understand the nature and character of his/her true self as spirit > then he/she can be called self realized person. It is a very high level of > spiritual achievement and it is not easy to find such people in this modern > age. > > What is the relation between self realization and Kundalini? > Kundalini is one of the best energy that can be used to help human to > attain self realization. > The process to attain self realization involves the development of all > major chakras and the cleansing of all our energy body layers to help us > increase our energy vibration. Attaining higher level of consciousness > simply means attaining higher level of energy vibration. > This process can only be possible through the proper Kundalini processes. > Without kundalini energy, it is impossible to have proper major chakra > development and energy body layers cleansing. That is why Kundalini is very > important in this process. > > Those who seems not using Kundalini in their spiritual progress area > actually already have good Kundalini progress from many previous > reincarnations and this process is a continuation process from one life to > the next life. So, in this life, he/she may not need to practice Kundalini > anymore to awaken the Kundalini because their Kundalini is already in good > state, but for sure they do need Kundalini to attain such high level of > spiritual achievement and that will be impossible without Kundalini. And > this kind of person is very small in number. > > For most of us, that will be very wrong if we say that Kundalini is not > important to attain self realization, just because we look at some small > number of people who already have good Kundalini state before this life time. > > To understand Kundalini properly, we do need to understand the evolution of > our reincarnation that may already last for thousands of years > > Love&Light, > Rama > > > > > 4. kundilini? > > "devianandi" <devi@p...> > > 5. Re: kundalini? > > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit@a...> > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > >Message: 4 > > Mon, 26 May 2003 00:29:19 -0000 > > "devianandi" <devi@p...> > >kundilini? > > > >hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini > >expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a > >realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely > >devi > > > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > >Message: 5 > > Mon, 26 May 2003 03:41:03 -0000 > > "eric paroissien" <peaceisit@a...> > >Re: kundalini? > > > >, "devianandi" <devi@p...> wrote: > > > hi harshaji, i have a question, do you know if the kundilini > > > expereince is mandatory to self-realiztion...? have you heard of a > > > realizer who hasn't had that? sincerely > > > devi > > > >dear devi, > >the whole buddhist and zen world (china, south-east asia, japan) is a > >vast domain of non-kundalini wonderful awakenings. > >the guys are just here in their "ordinary mind" > >now too > >in happiness > >eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________ ___ > >___________________ ___ > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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