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harsha wrote:

> Hello Deviji,

>

> Thank you for raising an interesting and a classic question on the

> role of Shakti rising and Self- Realization. Many good people here

> like Jan and others can comment on that. I recall writing about

this

> some years ago either on this list or another Kundalini list.

>

> Sri Ramana has answered the question in the "Talks" as well.

>

> Peace and love to all

>

>

> May all beings be free from sorrow

> Harsha

>

>

 

i am grateful too harsha,

maybe more than a question about kundalini, what we often want to

check is where we are on a scale of awakening from zero to twenty:-)

because the "experience" the "happening" the "test" the "trial"

the "pointer" tells it all.

that is the importance of an unfolding process like kundalini or the

stages of awakening (was it the nanas in theravada buddhism?)

because at every stage the fuel to proceed is hope

faith

because in the absence of other "stages" the only term we have is

the "hard dead line".

then when faith turns into hard evidence, hard faith, that is grace

manifested as a presence out of regular life experience one can

wonder what is lacking for the "coup de grace" (no pun) what makes it

necessary in the economy of nature to keep up lingering

(deadline is not ok and neither is an infinite scale)

in peaceful bliss

eric

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> maybe more than a question about kundalini, what we often want to

> check is where we are on a scale of awakening from zero to twenty:-)

> then when faith turns into hard evidence, hard faith, that is grace

> manifested as a presence out of regular life experience one can

> wonder what is lacking for the "coup de grace" (no pun) what makes

it

> necessary in the economy of nature to keep up lingering

> (deadline is not ok and neither is an infinite scale)

> in peaceful bliss

> eric

 

 

 

eric, thank you so much

 

 

yes, Sri Aurobindo [also Swami Vivekanada] 'all life is yoga' but

yoga of any kind is a catalyst to the process, the individual soul

having some choice either to go with big momma slo-mo prakriti or

apply some 'heat' tapasya [without impatience and with ishvara

pranidhana] and it aint ovary until the Fat Lady sings

 

Om tat sat

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