Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 - mjmgilbert (AT) attbi (DOT) com Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:48 PM The end and sum total of all mysticism ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` The end and the sum total of all mysticism, philosophy, and meditation, of everything one learns and develops, is to be a better servant to humanity. Everything from the beginning to the end in the spiritual path is a training to be able to serve mankind better, and if one does not do it with that intention, one will find in the end that one has accomplished nothing. -Hazrat Inayat Khan ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `Hazrat Inayat KhanMastery Through AccomplishmentOmega Press, 1978 Lead me from the unreal to the realLead me from darkness to lightLead me from death to immortality. - Invocation from the UpanishadsArchive for can be accessed at:http://groups../messagesSubscribe: -Un: Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 , "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote: > > - > mjmgilbert@a... > > Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:48 PM > The end and sum total of all mysticism > > > > > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > The end and the sum total of all mysticism, > philosophy, and meditation, of everything one > learns and develops, is to be a better servant > to humanity. Everything from the beginning to > the end in the spiritual path is a training to be > able to serve mankind better, and if one does > not do it with that intention, one will find in the > end that one has accomplished nothing. > > -Hazrat Inayat Khan > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > Mastery Through Accomplishment > Omega Press, 1978 > > > > > Lead me from the unreal to the real > Lead me from darkness to light > Lead me from death to immortality. > > - Invocation from the Upanishads elegance and grace gloria eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 All this about the end and sum total of all {WHO} {Who}is the author Here.Thats the ultimate question.I am a instrament thru which certian actions take place.Of these actins I am not the creator.From the book The Maharshi's Way { The body is subject to destiny Alone.This fate is dispensed by the will or Sakti of Isvara the manifested Brahman. It is not determined by the actions themselves nor by the will of the individual who suffers or enjoys such fate. The ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their prarabdha karma Whatso ever is destined not to happen will not happen.tryas you may.whatsoevereis destine to happen will happen.do what you may to prevent it.All the activities of the body is to go through are determined when it first comes in to existence. } Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Gloria, Thank you. This is point often lost, especially in the "Absolute" teachings. Those who get it, will; and those who don't get it, won't and will find all kinds of reasons why that is not truth. It is a matter of consciousness actually. Those who are caught in their desire-natures and have not realized the "self" may try very hard to serve mankind but even their striving will not be productive in the long run. Those who are liberated will align themselves in the flow of their present life as an expression of Sat-Chit-Ananda and their service will be appropriate and productive, not as an act of ego-will, but as a matter of being. This same discussion was held in Buddhism a long time ago and goes on today; there are those who seek Nirvana for themselves alone, and there are those who take the Bodhisattva Vow. The more liberated one is the more effective is the service. One might say that that is the difference between the butcher and the surgeon (by way of analogy). In the Non-Dual view the end is "nothing", no-self; and Khan has pointed out that without service, one won't make it to "nothing" or "non-self". I think that that is most instructive and correct. Again thank you for finding and posting the quotation. John L. , "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote: > > - > mjmgilbert@a... > > Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:48 PM > The end and sum total of all mysticism > > > > > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > The end and the sum total of all mysticism, > philosophy, and meditation, of everything one > learns and develops, is to be a better servant > to humanity. Everything from the beginning to > the end in the spiritual path is a training to be > able to serve mankind better, and if one does > not do it with that intention, one will find in the > end that one has accomplished nothing. > > -Hazrat Inayat Khan > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > Mastery Through Accomplishment > Omega Press, 1978 > > > > > Lead me from the unreal to the real > Lead me from darkness to light > Lead me from death to immortality. > > - Invocation from the Upanishads > > > Archive for can be accessed at: > /messages > Subscribe: - > Un: > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2003 Report Share Posted June 12, 2003 Dear John, Thank you for so appreciating the quote. The understanding and wisdom expressed in your response is entirely your own. Love, Gloria - John Logan (AT) (DOT) .com Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:44 PM Re: Fw:The end and sum total of all mysticism Hi Gloria,Thank you. This is point often lost, especially in the "Absolute" teachings.Those who get it, will; and those who don't get it, won't and will find all kinds of reasons why that is not truth.It is a matter of consciousness actually.Those who are caught in their desire-natures and have not realized the "self" may try very hard to serve mankind but even their striving will not be productive in the long run.Those who are liberated will align themselves in the flow of their present life as an expression of Sat-Chit-Ananda and their service will be appropriate and productive, not as an act of ego-will, but as a matter of being.This same discussion was held in Buddhism a long time ago and goes on today; there are those who seek Nirvana for themselves alone, and there are those who take the Bodhisattva Vow.The more liberated one is the more effective is the service. One might say that that is the difference between the butcher and the surgeon (by way of analogy).In the Non-Dual view the end is "nothing", no-self; and Khan has pointed out that without service, one won't make it to "nothing" or "non-self".I think that that is most instructive and correct.Again thank you for finding and posting the quotation.John L., "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote:> > - > mjmgilbert@a... > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:48 PM> The end and sum total of all mysticism> > > > > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `> > The end and the sum total of all mysticism,> philosophy, and meditation, of everything one> learns and develops, is to be a better servant> to humanity. Everything from the beginning to> the end in the spiritual path is a training to be> able to serve mankind better, and if one does> not do it with that intention, one will find in the> end that one has accomplished nothing.> > -Hazrat Inayat Khan> > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `> > > Hazrat Inayat Khan> Mastery Through Accomplishment> Omega Press, 1978> > > > > Lead me from the unreal to the real> Lead me from darkness to light> Lead me from death to immortality.> > - Invocation from the Upanishads> > > Archive for can be accessed at:> http://groups../messages> Subscribe: -> Un: > > Your use of is subject to /join The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart. Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Dear Gloria, Thanks for saying that. John's presence on this list is a gift to all of us. Thanks John! Love to all Harsha Gloria Lee wrote: Dear John, Thank you for so appreciating the quote. The understanding and wisdom expressed in your response is entirely your own. Love, Gloria - John Logan To: (AT) (DOT) .com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: Fw:The end and sum total of all mysticism Hi Gloria, Thank you. This is point often lost, especially in the "Absolute" teachings. Those who get it, will; and those who don't get it, won't and will find all kinds of reasons why that is not truth. It is a matter of consciousness actually. Those who are caught in their desire-natures and have not realized the "self" may try very hard to serve mankind but even their striving will not be productive in the long run. Those who are liberated will align themselves in the flow of their present life as an expression of Sat-Chit-Ananda and their service will be appropriate and productive, not as an act of ego-will, but as a matter of being. This same discussion was held in Buddhism a long time ago and goes on today; there are those who seek Nirvana for themselves alone, and there are those who take the Bodhisattva Vow. The more liberated one is the more effective is the service. One might say that that is the difference between the butcher and the surgeon (by way of analogy). In the Non-Dual view the end is "nothing", no-self; and Khan has pointed out that without service, one won't make it to "nothing" or "non-self". I think that that is most instructive and correct. Again thank you for finding and posting the quotation. John L. , "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote: > > - > mjmgilbert@a... > > Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:48 PM > The end and sum total of all mysticism > > > > > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > The end and the sum total of all mysticism, > philosophy, and meditation, of everything one > learns and develops, is to be a better servant > to humanity. Everything from the beginning to > the end in the spiritual path is a training to be > able to serve mankind better, and if one does > not do it with that intention, one will find in the > end that one has accomplished nothing. > > -Hazrat Inayat Khan > > ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` > > > Hazrat Inayat Khan > Mastery Through Accomplishment > Omega Press, 1978 > > > > > Lead me from the unreal to the real > Lead me from darkness to light > Lead me from death to immortality. > > - Invocation from the Upanishads > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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