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Pranayama (deep

breathing or special breathing methods), mudras, and meditation do not cause

the normal type of intoxication but a shift in consciousness that is due

to Kundalini awakening.

As a side note, some practicing yogis once they are advanced in pranayama

etc., experiment with special herbs, teas, and foods (fried red kidney

beans for vegetarians) and a small bit of red wine. Such foods put the

average person to sleep but stimulate the Kundalini Shakti of the yogi (and

can provide various types of interesting experiences in meditation).

All such experiences, due to the influence of pranayama, meditation

combined with food and wine are joyful but transient. That is why Sri

Ramana advised focusing on the "experiencer". As Sri Ramana has stated

the only thing we can be completely sure of is that "I Exist". Meditating

on this feeling and experience of "I Am" is the key to Self-Knowledge.

The self-evident fact of "I Am" and the conscious experience of its presence as

(self presence) indicates the clue to the Self- quality of Sat (Existence).

By remaining aware of the Existence aspect, the nature of Ananda, and Knowledge

is realized as well as they are One Whole.

Harsha

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The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart.

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Pranayama (deep

breathing or special breathing methods), mudras, and meditation do not cause

the normal type of intoxication but a shift in consciousness that is due

to Kundalini awakening.

As a side note, some practicing yogis once they are advanced in pranayama

etc., experiment with special herbs, teas, and foods (fried red kidney

beans for vegetarians) and a small bit of red wine. Such foods put the

average person to sleep but stimulate the Kundalini Shakti of the yogi (and

can provide various types of interesting experiences in meditation).

All such experiences, due to the influence of pranayama, meditation

combined with food and wine are joyful but transient. That is why Sri

Ramana advised focusing on the "experiencer". As Sri Ramana has stated

the only thing we can be completely sure of is that "I Exist". Meditating

on this feeling and experience of "I Am" is the key to Self-Knowledge.

The self-evident fact of "I Am" and the conscious experience of its

presence as (self presence) indicates the clue to the Self- quality

of Sat (Existence).

By remaining aware of the Existence aspect, the nature of Ananda, and Knowledge

is realized as well as they are One Whole.

Harsha

/join

 

The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart.

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, Harsha wrote:

> Pranayama (deep breathing or special breathing methods), mudras,

and

> meditation do not cause the normal type of intoxication but a shift

in

> consciousness that is due to Kundalini awakening.

> >

> The Heart is the Self. The Self is the Heart.

 

 

 

and there it rests, a lotus bud

km

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, r.hend4614@n... wrote:

>

> Who can tell what actions will produce what

fruit. Who is the doer of all this .Thy will be done

 

 

 

 

The Bhagavad Gita gives very useful desriptions of the three types of

action etc and their fruits [rajas, tamas, sattwa]

So do other spiritual traditions.

The B.G. also talks about its message 'as secret' and not to be used

in a way that confuses those who are not prepared through a high

degree of humility, love and sel-discipline.

 

Otherwise, like any other quotation, the fruit can be fundamentalism,

fatalism, irresponsible behaviour etc

[Of course, that applies to none on this list as we are all

'self-realised'?!Big smile km]

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