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[RamanaMaharshi] What is meant by samsara?

 

Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:49:25 +0200

 

"Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de>

 

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During the early days of my arrival here,

on one day at about

3 o'clock in the afternoon a middle-aged

Andhra, who had come

recently, asked Bhagavan, "Swami, as I repeat

Ramanamam (the

name of Rama) regularly every morning and

every evening for

an hour, other thoughts come in, one by

one, increase from time

to time and ultimately find that I have

forgotten my japam. What

shall I do?"

"At the time catch hold of the name (Ramanamam)"

said Bhagavan.

We all laughed. Poor man! He felt grieved

and said, "The reasons for

these interruption is the Samsara (family),

is not it? I am therefore

thinking of abandoning the samsara."

Bhagavan said, "Oh! Is that so? What really

is meant by samsara?

Is it within or without? Wife, children

and others" he said.

"Is that all the samsara? What have they

done? Please find out first

what really is meant by samsara. Afterwards

we shall consider the

question of abandoning them," said Bhagavan.

He could not reply and so kept quiet, crest-fallen.

Bhagavan's heart was full of compassion.

With a look full of tender

kindness he said, "Supposing you leave your

wife and children.

If you are here this will become another

kind of samsara.

Supposing you take to sanyasa. Another kind

of samsara comes

into existence in the shape of karra (walking

stick), kamandalu

(water bowl) and the like. Why all that?

Samsara means samsara

of the mind. If you leave that samsara,

it will be the same thing

wherever you are. Nothing troubles you."

Poor man! He mustered up some courage and

said, "Yes, that

is it, Swami. How to give up that samsara

of the mind?"

Bhagavan said, "That is just it; you said

you were doing the

japam of Rama Namam. During the train of

thoughts, you said

you were sometimes reminded of the fact

that you had forgotten

the japam of Rama Namam. Try to remind yourself

of that fact

as often as possible and catch hold of the

name of Rama frequently.

Other thoughts will then slowly decrease.

For the japam of nam

(repeating the name of the Lord) several

stages have been prescribed.

It is good to repeat the name by the mere

motion of the lips than

by repeating it aloud; better than that

is to repeat it in the mind

and the best is Dhyanam.

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Nagamma: Letters

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The book just openend here - and remembering

there have been a question

about sannyas some time ago I am posting

this story. Possibly it helps.

Yours in His Grace

Gabriele

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> Yours in His Grace

> Gabriele

 

 

 

 

angel Gabriele

thank you to be reminded of what Ramana Mharishi said on the matter!

 

 

'bhava japa bhava japa bhava japa'

 

be the qualities the Divine name you utter represents

my guru, Surya

 

 

 

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