Guest guest Posted July 4, 2003 Report Share Posted July 4, 2003 PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE Just by looking at the photo of my guru power enters in the seekers. He claims that his power is similar to muktanand yoga .This power works through one gye at one time through out the world. When i got deksha he did not touch me only he told one mantra & advised me to feel him at my third eye. I felt something is penetrating through my third eye .As well i heard a noise inside my ears which was coming from my brain inside. From that onward daily i started doing meditation by chattering his mantra .I felt sensation in my all chakras most of the time in third eye & last chakra. after some time mantra given to me start itself without my effort even if i try to stop this mantra i was unable to do this.I called up my guru he said continue practicing it is good sign agpa jap has started. MY noise inside ears was increasing meditation was going well. Gradually i started feeling tremendious heat inside my body. too much weakness inside body. One thing i notoced whwnever i pooga any form of god i feel so problem . After asking to my guru he replied you cannot do any pooja except my mantra otherwise you will be in trouble.My problems were increasing day by day further i felt burning sensation at my heart ,severe pain inside my brain,my concentration finished even i was unable to read news paper . I felt that something is trying to stop my breathing. Guru said you continue it was unbearable for me to continue.I finally decided to stop .Bt guru said now you cannot stop you cannot move away from this power. when i stop doing this same symtoms started in me. mantra started itself if i tried to stopmantra but i felt my breathing will stop. I feelt severe pain in my brain , at my organs , burning sensation at heart.I consulted doctors lot of test were done . Neourologist test several things but nothing changed. Finally i met some people who vere practical yogis they said your guru is sucking your power . I got tantrik treatment of these yogis & got lot of relief. bit they clearely said we can not cure you properly the power given by your guru is very strong. Gradually i started Gayatri mantra jaap in rishikesh . I took leave for one month & sit near ganga . For somedays i found whwnever i started gayatri jaap my guru photo comes at my third eye byforse. I tried to remove this image but for 15 days i was helpless. Further i cintinue my jaap & got relex. tremendious changes comes over here i was feeling relex through jap but siddha power start creating problems to my mother / father/ brothers All were feeling same symtoms noise inside ears , burning sensation ets.If i do gayatri jaap i feel good but family comes under trouble .If i stop jaap for saving my family then myself comes under trouble. But my love toward god saves me My concious suggested not to stop my gayatri mantra jaap .after three year today i am out of trouble approx. 80% .But i am unable to make me seperate from this power . If i left my pooja for one or two days this power start attacking me till today . that is all about my story. I hope you will suggeat me some solution. sanju. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 , "John Logan" <johnrloganis> wrote: > Hi Sanju, > > There are "Gurus" who collect people through a form of possession. > The truth is that ultimately they only have the power you give them. > > Gayatri Manrtra is good. > To whom is this happening? is better. > Who am I? > What am I? > These are the important questions to ask to find the Divinity, the > Self you really are. The teachings of Ramana Maharshi are beneficial, > he did not collect disciples, his teachings were freely given and are > freely received. You may also benefit from Sri Poonja and his related > teaching. He also gives no power to anything but letting go of all > thought for even a moment and it sets one free from all forms of > possession, attachment and desire. The goal is realized liberation, > not attachment to any man whose breath is in his nostrils. > > Japa/Mantra can be a form of hypnosis unless used with sincerity and > meaning. One can chant "Coca-Cola" and get an effect. > One can chant "Om Namah Shivaya", not knowing what its intention is > and just repeat mechanically and will get the same effect as > chanting "Coca-Cola". Japa is not magic, it is helpful only if it > leads to clear realization. > > The Guru shows the way, the Guru is not the goal, unless the Guru is > fully and truly God-Realized, then the Guru becomes transparent to > the Absolute. > > You do not say who the Guru was, and it is probably not relevant. > There are many "Gurus" with "powers", siddhis, and any second rate > psychic can demonstrate many of those powers. Powers which enslave > are not beneficial and are as illusory as Maya. The "powers" are not > the goal either, no matter how impressive. The goal is liberation, > realization of the Self you are. This is the true freedom. > > Ask yourself, Who is having these experiences? > > John L. > > , "sanju" <mooladhaar> > wrote: > > PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE > > > > Just by looking at the photo of my guru power enters in the > seekers. > > He claims that his power is similar to muktanand yoga .This power > > works through one gye at one time through out the world. > > > > When i got deksha he did not touch me only he told one mantra & > > advised me to feel him at my third eye. I felt something is > > penetrating through my third eye .As well i heard a noise inside my > > ears which was coming from my brain inside. From that onward daily > i > > started doing meditation by chattering his mantra .I felt sensation > > in my all chakras most of the time in third eye & last chakra. > after > > some time mantra given to me start itself without my effort even > if > > i try to stop this mantra i was unable to do this.I called up my > > guru he said continue practicing it is good sign agpa jap has > > started. MY noise inside ears was increasing meditation was going > > well. Gradually i started feeling tremendious heat inside my body. > > too much weakness inside body. > > One thing i notoced whwnever i pooga any form of god i feel so > > problem . > > After asking to my guru he replied you cannot do any pooja except > my > > mantra otherwise you will be in trouble.My problems were increasing > > day by day further i felt burning sensation at my heart ,severe > pain > > inside my brain,my concentration finished even i was unable to read > > news paper . I felt that something is trying to stop my breathing. > > Guru said you continue it was unbearable for me to continue.I > > finally decided to stop .Bt guru said now you cannot stop you > cannot > > move away from this power. > > > > when i stop doing this same symtoms started in me. mantra started > > itself if i tried to stopmantra but i felt my breathing will stop. > I > > feelt severe pain in my brain , at my organs , burning sensation at > > heart.I consulted doctors lot of test were done . Neourologist test > > several things but nothing changed. Finally i met some people who > > vere practical yogis > > they said your guru is sucking your power . I got tantrik treatment > > of these yogis & got lot of relief. bit they clearely said we can > > not cure you properly the power given by your guru is very strong. > > > > Gradually i started Gayatri mantra jaap in rishikesh . I took leave > > for one month & sit near ganga . For somedays i found whwnever i > > started gayatri jaap my guru photo comes at my third eye byforse. I > > tried to remove this image but for 15 days i was helpless. Further > i > > cintinue my jaap & got relex. > > tremendious changes comes over here i was feeling relex through jap > > but > > siddha power start creating problems to my mother / father/ brothers > > All were feeling same symtoms noise inside ears , burning sensation > > ets.If i do gayatri jaap i feel good but family comes under > > trouble .If i stop jaap for saving my family then myself comes > > under trouble. > > But my love toward god saves me My concious suggested not to stop > my > > gayatri mantra jaap .after three year today i am out of trouble > > approx. 80% .But i am unable to make me seperate from this power . > > If i left my pooja for one or two days this power start attacking > me > > till today . > > > > that is all about my story. I hope you will suggeat me some > solution. > > > > sanju. 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Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 wake up! wake up! accept impermanence do not accept the comfort of so-called 'GURUS' face your fears like a spiritual warrior, you have only this life... ask yourself what matters most to you? practise 'bhava japa' ie the 'qualities' the name represents no one is going to 'enlighten' you, only yourself! wake and smell the coffee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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