Guest guest Posted July 8, 2003 Report Share Posted July 8, 2003 I have added 49 new quotes by Sri Muruganar from "The Garland of Guru's Sayings" to the Reading and Discussing Page, on the topics of reading, discussing and thinking about spiritual teachings, etc. The new quotes are at the top of the page. You can read them by clicking this link: http://uarelove1.tripod.com/READING_AND_DISCUSSING.htm The page could be subtitled: "how to determine if you are lost in an intellectual journey, that is pretending to be a spiritual journey." That reminds me of a story I once made up to illustrate a point: There were a group of four people who wanted to take a journey. However, they were afraid of the journey and they were especially afraid of the destination. They used to meet everyday in their car. They would bring along with them various travel books and maps. Then they would discuss the journey and sometimes even discuss the destination. Sometimes they would discuss among themselves that the destination did not exist or that the journey did not exist. That was a way to help them avoid actually taking the journey and reaching the destination that they were so afraid of. Sometimes they would say: "The destination is not a goal to be reached, we are already here". That was only one, of so many ways they had, of avoiding actually taking the journey. Some books had given clear instructions as to how to reach the destination. However, due to their fear, they never actually followed those instructions. Sometimes, they would make some very small attempt to follow the instructions, but they never put the effort into the all day, everyday traveling, that the instructions pointed out. Other books said, "there is no journey, you are already at the destination." They tended to prefer those books, because it helped them to never have to actually take the journey, and therefore it helped them to never actually reach the destination. Such was the power of their fear. They really loved those books that said you need not make any effort to reach the destination. You need not start the car, you need not put the car in gear, you need not press your foot on the gas pedal, because you have already arrived at the destination. They liked those books because it allowed them to never actually take the journey and reach the destination. Such was the power of their fear of the destination. Some of the books showed the direct route to reach the destination, and some of them showed routes filled with almost endless detours. They tended to prefer the books with routes that had almost endless detours. That way they could avoid reaching the destination they were so afraid of. If they had followed the instructions in the books showing the direct route, they would have actually reached the destination eventually. However, that would have involved a lot of hard work, and they preferred to just think and talk about the journey and the destination. Such was the power of their fear of the destination. Because of all their thinking, discussing and reading about the journey and the destination, they began to think that they were actually making progress towards the destination. They began to see this fantasy journey as a real journey. Actually, they were not making any progress towards the destination. It was very rare that anyone would talk about this fear and how this fear was dictating what books they would read and what actions they would take. Upon the rare occasion that someone would point all this out to them, they had very clever arguments to counter all such pointings out. All that reading, thinking and discussing over the years, had made them very clever with thoughts and concepts, so they could easily produce rationals and arguments that would justify what they were doing. So, they talked themselves, and thought themselves out of ever actually taking the journey and reaching the destination. The destination was a place of perfect Joy-Love without any suffering or sorrow. To reach the destination, they would have to leave the world they knew behind, because at the destination, neither their world nor any other world exists. They were afraid to leave what the knew behind. Sometimes they would convince themselves that they had reached the destination. However, they were still experiencing a world, with pleasure and pains, and were not really abiding in the perfect love-joy that has never known a world and has never known any suffering or sorrow. Therefore, they had not really reached the destination. They began to teach others. Teachings others helped to reinforce their fantasy that they had reached the destination. The reason they were lying to themselves about having reached the destination, is to avoid actually taking the journey and actually reaching the destination. 40 years later they were still meeting in their car, still discussing what they had read, and their own thoughts about the journey and the destination. During that 40 year period, the car had not moved one inch. The car was still in the parking gear, with the parking break on, and they had never even put the key in the ignition to try and start the car. They had made no progress at all towards actually reaching the destination. As a way of avoiding having to actually make the journey and reach the destination, they had even convinced each other that there is no such thing as progress. Such was their great fear of the journey and especially of the destination. They seldom ever admitted their fear to themselves, or to each other. What would have helped them? #1. Honesty, would have helped them. #2. A great desire to be free from the many forms of sorrow and suffering that occurred in the place where they lived, would have helped them. #3. A great desire to live in the place of perfect joy-love that has never known any suffering or sorrow, would have helped them. Take care, with Love, in: Awareness watching Awareness, Michael L. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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