Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Namaste All, This is what I was referring to re Sankara. A total Advaitin and knower. He knew there was only Nirguna but ordinary people have an ordinary mind. Which need concentration so--------ONS..Tony. : Bhaja Govindam TEXT 1 bhajagovindam bhajagovindam govindam bhajamuudhamate sampraapte sannihite kaale nahi nahi rakshati dukrijnkarane Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules of Grammar will not save you at the time of your death. TEXT 2 mudha jahiihi dhanaagamatrishhnaam kuru sadbuddhim manasi vitrishhnaam yallabhase nijakarmopaattam vittam tena vinodaya chittam Oh fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your mind to thoughts to the Real. Be content with what comes through actions already performed in the past. TEXT 25 tvayi mayi chaanyatraiko vishhnuh vyartham kupyasi mayyasahishhnuh bhava samachittah sarvatra tvam vaajnchhasyachiraadyadi vishhnutvam In me, in you and in everything, none but the same Vishnu dwells. Your anger and impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain the quality of Vishnu soon, have Sama Bhaava always. TEXT 26 shatrau mitre putre bandhau maa kuru yatnam vigrahasandhau sarvasminnapi pashyaatmaanam sarvatrotsrija bhedaagyaanam Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight against friend and foe, children and relatives. See yourself in everyone and give up all feelings of duality completely. TEXT 28 geyam giitaa naama sahasram dhyeyam shriipati ruupamajasram neyam sajjana sange chittam deyam diinajanaaya cha vittam Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, and chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and the holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the needy. TEXT 34 bhajagovindam bhajagovindam govindam bhajamuudhamate naamasmaranaadanyamupaayam nahi pashyaamo bhavatarane Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool! Other than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross the life's ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. Love, Harsha Tony OClery wrote: Namaste All, This is what I was referring to re Sankara. A total Advaitin and knower. He knew there was only Nirguna but ordinary people have an ordinary mind. Which need concentration so--------ONS..Tony. : Bhaja Govindam TEXT 1 bhajagovindam bhajagovindam govindam bhajamuudhamate sampraapte sannihite kaale nahi nahi rakshati dukrijnkarane Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules of Grammar will not save you at the time of your death. TEXT 2 mudha jahiihi dhanaagamatrishhnaam kuru sadbuddhim manasi vitrishhnaam yallabhase nijakarmopaattam vittam tena vinodaya chittam Oh fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your mind to thoughts to the Real. Be content with what comes through actions already performed in the past. TEXT 25 tvayi mayi chaanyatraiko vishhnuh vyartham kupyasi mayyasahishhnuh bhava samachittah sarvatra tvam vaajnchhasyachiraadyadi vishhnutvam In me, in you and in everything, none but the same Vishnu dwells. Your anger and impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain the quality of Vishnu soon, have Sama Bhaava always. TEXT 26 shatrau mitre putre bandhau maa kuru yatnam vigrahasandhau sarvasminnapi pashyaatmaanam sarvatrotsrija bhedaagyaanam Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight against friend and foe, children and relatives. See yourself in everyone and give up all feelings of duality completely. TEXT 28 geyam giitaa naama sahasram dhyeyam shriipati ruupamajasram neyam sajjana sange chittam deyam diinajanaaya cha vittam Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, and chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and the holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the needy. TEXT 34 bhajagovindam bhajagovindam govindam bhajamuudhamate naamasmaranaadanyamupaayam nahi pashyaamo bhavatarane Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool! Other than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross the life's ocean. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 , Harsha wrote: > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will be safe when your body dies? Love, Pete > Love, > Harsha > > Tony OClery wrote: > > > Namaste All, > > > > This is what I was referring to re Sankara. A total Advaitin and > > knower. He knew there was only Nirguna but ordinary people have an > > ordinary mind. Which need concentration so--------ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > > : Bhaja Govindam > > TEXT 1 > > > > bhajagovindam bhajagovindam > > govindam bhajamuudhamate > > sampraapte sannihite kaale > > nahi nahi rakshati dukrijnkarane > > > > Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules of > > Grammar will not save you at the time of your death. > > > > TEXT 2 > > > > mudha jahiihi dhanaagamatrishhnaam > > kuru sadbuddhim manasi vitrishhnaam > > yallabhase nijakarmopaattam > > vittam tena vinodaya chittam > > > > Oh fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your mind to > > thoughts to the Real. Be content with what comes through actions > > already performed in the past. > > > > TEXT 25 > > > > tvayi mayi chaanyatraiko vishhnuh > > vyartham kupyasi mayyasahishhnuh > > bhava samachittah sarvatra tvam > > vaajnchhasyachiraadyadi vishhnutvam > > > > In me, in you and in everything, none but the same Vishnu dwells. > > Your anger and impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain the > > quality of Vishnu soon, have Sama Bhaava always. > > > > TEXT 26 > > > > shatrau mitre putre bandhau > > maa kuru yatnam vigrahasandhau > > sarvasminnapi pashyaatmaanam > > sarvatrotsrija bhedaagyaanam > > > > Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight against > > friend and foe, children and relatives. See yourself in everyone and > > give up all feelings of duality completely. > > > > TEXT 28 > > > > geyam giitaa naama sahasram > > dhyeyam shriipati ruupamajasram > > neyam sajjana sange chittam > > deyam diinajanaaya cha vittam > > > > Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, and > > chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and the > > holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the needy. > > > > TEXT 34 > > > > bhajagovindam bhajagovindam > > govindam bhajamuudhamate > > naamasmaranaadanyamupaayam > > nahi pashyaamo bhavatarane > > > > Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool! Other > > than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross the > > life's ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > <http://rd./M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17 05060955:HM/A=1732163/R=0/SIG=11n0nglqg/*http://www.ediets.com/start.c fm?code=30510&media=zone> > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Terms of Service > > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Is the story line called Harsha safe now that it should worry about future safety? :-) You are pretty funny Pete and a good story teller. Love, Harsha seesaw1us wrote: , Harsha wrote: > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will be safe when your body dies? Love, Pete > Love, > Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Respected Sir, This a very trickish poem which should not be misconstrued. Nahi nahi rakshati dhukrunkarane does not come in conflict with the Vedic saying VAAGVAI BRAHMA ' Speech itself is Brahma' If one goes after the words and does not go to roots from which the words have sprung ,he will certainly be lost. On the other hand if one tries to trace the origins of speech, he will certainly see God!!!This is my conviction. Any thought is language.Has any one succeeded in thinking of something without language? No,I think. Thought is matter and meaning is Consciousness.The meaning of our lives is the karma of our actions.Its realization is through word ,deed and thought - the three actions. These three form the very core of material existence.If you want to know the why of it , go beyond them ,to the source from which they spring !!! Love always, Bhuvaneswar On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 Tony OClery wrote : >Namaste All, > >This is what I was referring to re Sankara. A total Advaitin >and >knower. He knew there was only Nirguna but ordinary people have >an >ordinary mind. Which need concentration so--------ONS..Tony. > > > >: Bhaja Govindam >TEXT 1 > >bhajagovindam bhajagovindam >govindam bhajamuudhamate >sampraapte sannihite kaale >nahi nahi rakshati dukrijnkarane > >Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules >of >Grammar will not save you at the time of your death. > >TEXT 2 > >mudha jahiihi dhanaagamatrishhnaam >kuru sadbuddhim manasi vitrishhnaam >yallabhase nijakarmopaattam >vittam tena vinodaya chittam > >Oh fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your mind >to >thoughts to the Real. Be content with what comes through >actions >already performed in the past. > >TEXT 25 > >tvayi mayi chaanyatraiko vishhnuh >vyartham kupyasi mayyasahishhnuh >bhava samachittah sarvatra tvam >vaajnchhasyachiraadyadi vishhnutvam > >In me, in you and in everything, none but the same Vishnu >dwells. >Your anger and impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain >the >quality of Vishnu soon, have Sama Bhaava always. > >TEXT 26 > >shatrau mitre putre bandhau >maa kuru yatnam vigrahasandhau >sarvasminnapi pashyaatmaanam >sarvatrotsrija bhedaagyaanam > >Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight >against >friend and foe, children and relatives. See yourself in everyone >and >give up all feelings of duality completely. > >TEXT 28 > >geyam giitaa naama sahasram >dhyeyam shriipati ruupamajasram >neyam sajjana sange chittam >deyam diinajanaaya cha vittam > >Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, >and >chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and >the >holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the >needy. > >TEXT 34 > >bhajagovindam bhajagovindam >govindam bhajamuudhamate >naamasmaranaadanyamupaayam >nahi pashyaamo bhavatarane > >Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool! >Other >than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross >the >life's ocean. > > > > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > >/join > > > > > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > >Sri Ramana > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > >Your use of is subject to > > > _ Interior meets Software; Rani Weds Gaurav. Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 - P: More funny stuff. Let's wish the Harsha story a happy ending. What would that be, in your opinion? And could things that have no continuety, have endings? Pete -- In , Harsha wrote: > Is the story line called Harsha safe now that it should worry about > future safety? :-) > You are pretty funny Pete and a good story teller. > > Love, > Harsha > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > , Harsha wrote: > > > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. > > > > P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will be > > safe when your body dies? > > > > Love, > > > > Pete > > > > > Love, > > > Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Thank you Pete. But your wishing this and that and happy endings for stories of "others", etc., is all part of the story, is it not Pete? And it is your story. It begins and ends with you. So the real question is where do you begin and end. That is where everyone else begins and ends. End of the story, or just a new beginning? :-) Love, Harsha seesaw1us wrote: - P: More funny stuff. Let's wish the Harsha story a happy ending. What would that be, in your opinion? And could things that have no continuety, have endings? Pete -- In , Harsha wrote: > Is the story line called Harsha safe now that it should worry about > future safety? :-) > You are pretty funny Pete and a good story teller. > > Love, > Harsha > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > , Harsha wrote: > > > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. > > > > P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will be > > safe when your body dies? > > > > Love, > > > > Pete > > > > > Love, > > > Harsha /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 , "bhuvan eswar chilukuri" <bhuvaneswarc@r...> wrote: > Respected Sir, > > This a very trickish poem which should not be misconstrued. > > Nahi nahi rakshati dhukrunkarane does not come in conflict with > the Vedic saying > > VAAGVAI BRAHMA ' Speech itself is Brahma' > > If one goes after the words and does not go to roots from which > the words have sprung ,he will certainly be lost. > Whenever that which thinks, thinks that it is itself that is thinking..........it is lost. Whenever that which thinks it is thinking, searches for anything.....it can never find it. > On the other hand if one tries to trace the origins of speech, he > will certainly see God!!!This is my conviction. > The speech is a by-product of thought.... Thought can never catch itself........ > Any thought is language.Has any one succeeded in thinking of > something without language? No,I think. No one thinks.........he is thought. > > Thought is matter and meaning is Consciousness.The meaning of our > lives is the karma of our actions.Its realization is through word > ,deed and thought - the three actions. These three form the very > core of material existence.If you want to know the why of it , go > beyond them ,to the source from which they spring !!! An object cannot find its source........ (You have a beautiful name) :-) > > Love always, > Bhuvaneswar > > > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 Tony OClery wrote : > >Namaste All, > > > >This is what I was referring to re Sankara. A total Advaitin > >and > >knower. He knew there was only Nirguna but ordinary people have > >an > >ordinary mind. Which need concentration so--------ONS..Tony. > > > > > > > >: Bhaja Govindam > >TEXT 1 > > > >bhajagovindam bhajagovindam > >govindam bhajamuudhamate > >sampraapte sannihite kaale > >nahi nahi rakshati dukrijnkarane > > > >Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules > >of > >Grammar will not save you at the time of your death. > > > >TEXT 2 > > > >mudha jahiihi dhanaagamatrishhnaam > >kuru sadbuddhim manasi vitrishhnaam > >yallabhase nijakarmopaattam > >vittam tena vinodaya chittam > > > >Oh fool! Give up your thirst to amass wealth, devote your mind > >to > >thoughts to the Real. Be content with what comes through > >actions > >already performed in the past. > > > >TEXT 25 > > > >tvayi mayi chaanyatraiko vishhnuh > >vyartham kupyasi mayyasahishhnuh > >bhava samachittah sarvatra tvam > >vaajnchhasyachiraadyadi vishhnutvam > > > >In me, in you and in everything, none but the same Vishnu > >dwells. > >Your anger and impatience is meaningless. If you wish to attain > >the > >quality of Vishnu soon, have Sama Bhaava always. > > > >TEXT 26 > > > >shatrau mitre putre bandhau > >maa kuru yatnam vigrahasandhau > >sarvasminnapi pashyaatmaanam > >sarvatrotsrija bhedaagyaanam > > > >Do not waste your efforts to win the love of or to fight > >against > >friend and foe, children and relatives. See yourself in everyone > >and > >give up all feelings of duality completely. > > > >TEXT 28 > > > >geyam giitaa naama sahasram > >dhyeyam shriipati ruupamajasram > >neyam sajjana sange chittam > >deyam diinajanaaya cha vittam > > > >Regularly recite from the Gita, meditate on Vishnu in your heart, > >and > >chant His thousand glories. Take delight to be with the noble and > >the > >holy. Distribute your wealth in charity to the poor and the > >needy. > > > >TEXT 34 > > > >bhajagovindam bhajagovindam > >govindam bhajamuudhamate > >naamasmaranaadanyamupaayam > >nahi pashyaamo bhavatarane > > > >Worship Govinda, worship Govinda, worship Govinda, Oh fool! > >Other > >than chanting the Lord's names, there is no other way to cross > >the > >life's ocean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > >/join > > > > > > > > > > > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > >Sri Ramana > > > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > _ > Interior meets Software; Rani Weds Gaurav. > Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match > Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 - Are you a lawyer? Perhaps,... a polititian. Could you be even... a guru? They do dance around issues, not as gracefully as you do,though. Pete -- In , Harsha wrote: > Thank you Pete. > > But your wishing this and that and happy endings for stories of > "others", etc., is all part of the story, is it not Pete? > And it is your story. It begins and ends with you. > > So the real question is where do you begin and end. That is where > everyone else begins and ends. > > End of the story, or just a new beginning? :-) > > Love, > Harsha > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > - > > P: More funny stuff. Let's wish the Harsha story a happy ending. What > > would that be, in your opinion? And could things that have no > > continuety, have endings? > > > > Pete > > -- In , Harsha wrote: > > > Is the story line called Harsha safe now that it should worry about > > > future safety? :-) > > > You are pretty funny Pete and a good story teller. > > > > > > Love, > > > Harsha > > > > > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > > > > > , Harsha wrote: > > > > > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. > > > > > > > > P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will > > be > > > > safe when your body dies? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Harsha > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > <http://rd./M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17 05060955:HM/A=1732163/R=0/SIG=11n0nglqg/*http://www.ediets.com/start.c fm?code=30510&media=zone> > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Terms of Service > > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Thank you Pete. Perhaps I really am as graceful as you suggest. Not a lawyer or a politician or a guru Just your buddy. Love, Harsha seesaw1us wrote: - Are you a lawyer? Perhaps,... a polititian. Could you be even... a guru? They do dance around issues, not as gracefully as you do,though. Pete -- In , Harsha wrote: > Thank you Pete. > > But your wishing this and that and happy endings for stories of > "others", etc., is all part of the story, is it not Pete? > And it is your story. It begins and ends with you. > > So the real question is where do you begin and end. That is where > everyone else begins and ends. > > End of the story, or just a new beginning? :-) > > Love, > Harsha > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > - > > P: More funny stuff. Let's wish the Harsha story a happy ending. What > > would that be, in your opinion? And could things that have no > > continuety, have endings? > > > > Pete > > -- In , Harsha wrote: > > > Is the story line called Harsha safe now that it should worry about > > > future safety? :-) > > > You are pretty funny Pete and a good story teller. > > > > > > Love, > > > Harsha > > > > > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > > > > > , Harsha wrote: > > > > > Thanks Tony. I know what you are saying. > > > > > > > > P: Do you Harsha? Do you think the story line called Harsha will > > be > > > > safe when your body dies? > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > > Harsha > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > <http://rd./M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17 05060955:HM/A=1732163/R=0/SIG=11n0nglqg/*http://www.ediets.com/start.c fm?code=30510&media=zone> > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Terms of Service > > <>. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 , Harsha wrote: > Thank you Pete. Perhaps I really am as graceful as you suggest. > > Not a lawyer or a politician or a guru > Just your buddy. > > Love, > Harsha > > seesaw1us wrote: > > > - > > Are you a lawyer? Perhaps,... a polititian. Could you be even... > > a guru? They do dance around issues, not as gracefully as you > > do,though. Namaste,Pete et al, Dancing like Siva Nataraj, and that also an illusion....There is no issue to dance around or anyone to be danced around.......ONS...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 , Harsha wrote: > Thank you Pete. Perhaps I really am as graceful as you suggest. Of course, you are! Would I lie? I used to pick on you on the Niz list, but this is your home, and a man is entitled to peace in his own home. Or so we think. Women often disagree with that. Besides, I have come to like you, so I'll leave in peace. Take care, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Thanks Pete. It's nice to be liked. I like you too. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship! You don't have to leave just because you have come to like me. :-). Wishing you well Pete. Love, Harsha seesaw1us wrote: , Harsha wrote: > Thank you Pete. Perhaps I really am as graceful as you suggest. Of course, you are! Would I lie? I used to pick on you on the Niz list, but this is your home, and a man is entitled to peace in his own home. Or so we think. Women often disagree with that. Besides, I have come to like you, so I'll leave in peace. Take care, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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