Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 i JUST WANT TO SHARE MY VIEWS FURTHER ON THIS MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC IN OUR LIFE: Talking about conquering lust is one thing and decimating it is another thing. I am a bachelor and I abstain myself from physical sex - I succeeded by my master's grace .I am most grateful to him for this grace. Abstaining from the very thought is the next thing. Blessed are those who have reached this state for theirs is the kingdom of JOY! It is here , I succeed for hours ,days and months but somehow ,somehow it crops up unasked for,uncalled for - that is why it is called a vasana!!!I just wonder from where it comes!!! The thought does not go easily - i mean ,decimated easily .It goes only when one realises 'the flesh and blood variation ' truly as an experience.Then he gains suddha vasana.To realise that one needs to do intense sadhana by vairagya,vichara,and bhakti.He should separate the love in lust and transfer it to God and then again merge it in HIM.Manonasam "decimation of the thought"is different from suppression of the thought. It is as I have found from my own humble experience that unless one gets to the "lover" who is the mischief maker,one cannot get rid of this vasana.tHE ONLY Physical PROOF OF THAT CONQUEROR IS IN hIS eyes.Please See the eyes of Sri Ramana!!! Love always, bhuvaneswar On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 bhuvan eswar chilukuri wrote : >hULLOO! > > >'Unless a lover ,a seeker after truth he will not become!' > >Wrong: Nirguna Brahman is uncaused so a seeker stays a seeker >until the attitude is given up, all attitudes are given up. > >lOVE THE LOVER - THAT IS MY POINT!!! > >pLEASE tRY WHAT I SAID BEFORE YOU SAY IT IS WRONG! > >nIRGUNA BRAHMAN IS SOUGHT FIRST BY MERGING THE THOUGHT IN THE >SOURCE AND AS THE THOUGHT IS DECIMATED - VASANA KSHAYAM -THE >SORCE REMAINS AS IT IS - SO SAY THE WISE .aNY HOW ,i HAVE NOT >YET >REACHED THAT STATE BUT I KNOW THAT STATE OF WHICH i AM TALKING >ABOUT -THE SECONDARY REFLECTION STATE ,THE FIRST THOUGHT >STATE,THE >EGO IN sRI rAMANA MAHARSHI'S TEACHINGS,FROM WHERE i HAVE TO >RETRACE IT FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO ITS SOURCE. > >jNANADEVATU KAIVALYAM!!! > >lOVE ONLY, > >BHUVANESWAR > >On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 ecirada wrote : > >On 9/21/03 at 8:56 AM bhuvan eswar chilukuri wrote: > > > >ºHellolooloo Fred the seeker of advaitha and Ramana, > >º > >ºThat is the beginning of all fusion from and of all > >confusion!!! > >º > >ºHow can light and darkness co-exist!!! > > > >Similar as at a moonless night. Remember, light isn't seen >until > >it hits the eyes. > > > >º > >ºI wonder what happens to you when you next time holda woman >in > >ºyour embrace and then simultaneously ask who is holding whom > >and > >ºthen immediately separate the question from the questioner >and > >ºhold the questioner tight ,man!!!,real tight without any gap > >ºbetween the holding and the held !!! > > > >Swami Sivananda once wrote a paragraph titled "miserable >mundane > >life" > >and mentioned man as the sporting lapdog of women, who are as > >real as the > >artificial color of their hair, the set of false teeth, and as >he > >remarked, > >"after a few weeks of fever, not having been washed, the >stench > >is abominable". > >You get the picture, that was meant to show the issue of >"lust", > >a most tenacious > >property of the "John Doe" type of householder who doesn't >know > >the difference > >between "love" and "lust": true love needs no object. > >º > >ºThen you will > >º > >ºaaaaaoohhhooo > >º!!!uuuuuhhhihii......mmmmmmm.....0000000.SIIILLLEEENCCe. > >º > >ºBoy!!! > > > >During John Doe's everyday life, the silence isn't >recognized, > >too busy watching movies, listening to the boss, colleagues, >a > >nagging wife, screaming kids and the barking dog: the mind is > >at > >rest in deep dreamless sleep only. > >º > >ºKami ga:ni mo:ksha ga:mi ga:du > >ºlover but salvation but not become > >º > >º'Unless a lover ,a seeker after truth he will not become!' > > > >Wrong: Nirguna Brahman is uncaused so a seeker stays a seeker > >until the attitude is given up, all attitudes are given up. > >º > >ºLove to the very marrow of the bones of your lover.All the > >ºbest!!! > > > >Where stays love in deep dreamless sleep? > >º > >ºYou know what happened to one of our beloved saints Kabir > >Das(?) > >º,the poet: > >º > >ºhe too fell in love with his wife top,bottom,center,left and > >ºright,inside and outside and every side !!! > >º > >ºHooyyaa! > > > >Love is a subject-object issue for most. Ramana fell in love >with > >the red mountain > >and wrote a series of poems on it, the 40 verses. > >º > >ºin the stormy night , he mistook a corpse for a log and held >on > >to > >ºit in the mighty Ganga,crossed the river in the dark night >and > >ºthen reached the house of his beloved wife and climbed > >through > >ºthe black serpent thinking that it was a rope and reached >the > >ºupstairs to see his love.When his wife saw him dripping in >the > >ºdownstairs ( in rain,boy!) ,she said, > >º > >º"If only you show this to God!!!" > >º > >ºThat is the end of the whole show and the beginning of all > >ºshows!!! > > > >The end of the show is when "God" is seen for what it is, > >instead > >of a creator without a creator. > >º > >º > >ºLove only the one who created the most beautiful woman!!! > > > >Care to know "love for the other gender" is rooted in the >mating > >issue? > >Do you love a diseased women of 80, who hasn't been washed for >6 > >months, > >just as much as the fertile woman in her mid-twenties? > >º > >ºHow much more beautiful he will be!!! > > > >Beauty has a biological basis: fertility again. Symmetry for > >instance > >signifies flawless genes. In order not to hurt your feelings, >the > >mind > >issues a message like "oh what a beautiful goddess, i want to > >share my > >life with her" instead of "get her into a cave, have fun, > >finished!". > >º > >ºI am a bachelor and I am trying but the going is slippery!!! > > > >Swami Sivananda's "practice of yoga" has a chapter devoted to > >bachelors like you: a "must read". > >º > >ºBECAUSE I AM FOOOOOOTLOOOOSE !!!I am getting some proverbial > >ºexercises to make my feet strong!!! > > > >Easy: who wants to be hoodwinked by what in some systems is > >called "lower nature"? > >º > >ºAs Larus found the red lotus flowers > >ºWhere there is a will there is a way > >ºWhere there is a will God will show the way > >ºAs Larus found the red lotus flowers > > > >"As you meditate, so you become". > >º > >ºYou know about this lotus show? > >ºIf not ask one Lady Joy - she is in Heaven but descends once >in > >a > >ºway to and nowadays to >Proverbiallinguists.She > >ºknows what is love since she wrote n immortal poem on love > >just > >ºrecently!!! > > > >No dirt will stick to a lotus leaf: growing from the mud, it >is > >stainless > >even when the flowers are gone. > >º > >ºSEEYAALOVERBOY > > > >Take care and don't get carried away. > >Does the word "equanimity" ring a bell here? > >It will, when instead of pouring milk over holy linga, > >it is offered to the needy, the homeless, starving in the > >streets. Same milk that yet makes can make a difference. > > > >Remember, Namadev realized, by seeing Krishna in a stray dog. > >He offered food, Krishna tested Namadev and then showed > >himself. > >You treat homeless and hungry one(s) like Krishna, and same > >happens. > >This is life of true Bhakta, Jnani and Buddha, >simultaneously, > >like Sivananda showed. > >º > >º > >ºYOURS Proverbially in HarshhhARShAICALLY, > >º > >ºChilukuri Bhuvaneswar > > > >No-thing matters but matter cannot know that. > > > >Jan > > > > > > > > > >------------------------ Sponsor > > > >/join > > > > > > > > > > > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > >Sri Ramana > > > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > >_ >Art meets Anesthesia; Shefali Weds Dr. Raman. >Rediff Matchmaker strikes another interesting match !! >Visit http://matchmaker.rediff.com?1 > > >------------------------ Sponsor > >/join > > > > > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > >Sri Ramana > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > >Your use of is subject to > > > _ Art meets Anesthesia; Shefali Weds Dr. Raman. 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