Re:SELF DISCIPLINE Introduction:

[Guest guest]

, "toombaru" <toombaru>

wrote:

> In the Great War...............the hormones are known for their

> flanking maneuvers and sneakiness........the neurons for their

> steadfastness and predictability.

>

> No one ever wins the Great War........

 

 

HA!! That is magnificent, toombaru! They are as they are! How

grand!!

 

Thank you!!!

 

 

 

Love,

Kheyala

[Guest guest]

about conquering or decimating "lust"

lust is bodily nothing bad about it b u t

are you the body????

decimating something does not seem to be the answer

conquering looks better but still thats not the good way at least for myself

but transcendening it seems better

but without illusions

b u t illusions are everywhere so easily to fetch

enjoing pure bodily sex without illusions about "love"

nothing wrong with it its honest

a woman should only share sex with a man when she wants it 100percent

like a man

if you try to live spiritual sex is wonderful as a way to heaven to fullfillment

to get a glimpse of paradise

b u t only if deep very deep love is involved

if this form of love is involved a touch of bodily lust is not bad if you are aware of it

if loving GD with all your being loving your woman/man is the same love

loving this way "sex" is love too

living without bodily sex why not? but only if it is not a selfdelusion....

all the best

michael of tuscany

>"toombaru"

> >To:

> Re: Re:SELF

DISCIPLINE Re: Introduction: >Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:32:36 -0000 >

>, "bhuvan eswar chilukuri" >

wrote: > > i JUST WANT TO SHARE MY VIEWS FURTHER ON THIS MOST

IMPORTANT TOPIC > > IN OUR LIFE: > > > > > > Talking about conquering

lust is one thing and decimating it is > > another thing. > > > > I am

a bachelor and I abstain myself from physical sex - I > > succeeded by

my master's grace .I am most grateful to him for this > > grace. > > >

> Abstaining from the very thought is the next thing. > > > > Blessed

are those who have reached this state for theirs is the > > kingdom

of JOY! > > > > It is here , I succeed for hours ,days and months but

somehow > > ,somehow it crops up unasked for,uncalled for - that is

why it is > > called a vasana!!!I just wonder from where it comes!!!

> > > > The thought does not go easily - i mean ,decimated easily .It

> > goes only when one realises 'the flesh and blood variation ' truly

> > as an experience.Then he gains suddha vasana.To realise that one >

> needs to do intense sadhana by vairagya,vichara,and bhakti.He > >

should separate the love in lust and transfer it to God and then > >

again merge it in HIM.Manonasam "decimation of the thought"is > >

different from suppression of the thought. > > > > It is as I have

found from my own humble experience that unless > > one gets to the

"lover" who is the mischief maker,one cannot get > > rid of this

vasana.tHE ONLY Physical PROOF OF THAT CONQUEROR IS IN > > hIS

eyes.Please See the eyes of Sri Ramana!!! > > > > Love always, > > >

> bhuvaneswar > > > > >In the Great War...............the hormones

are known for their >flanking maneuvers and sneakiness........the

neurons for their >steadfastness and predictability. > >No one ever

wins the Great War........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep

2003 bhuvan eswar chilukuri wrote : > > >hULLOO! > > > > > > > >

>'Unless a lover ,a seeker after truth he will not become!' > > > > >

>Wrong: Nirguna Brahman is uncaused so a seeker stays a seeker > >

>until the attitude is given up, all attitudes are given up. > > > >

> >lOVE THE LOVER - THAT IS MY POINT!!! > > > > > >pLEASE tRY WHAT I

SAID BEFORE YOU SAY IT IS WRONG! > > > > > >nIRGUNA BRAHMAN IS SOUGHT

FIRST BY MERGING THE THOUGHT IN THE > > >SOURCE AND AS THE THOUGHT IS

DECIMATED - VASANA KSHAYAM -THE > > >SORCE REMAINS AS IT IS - SO SAY

THE WISE .aNY HOW ,i HAVE NOT > > >YET > > >REACHED THAT STATE BUT I

KNOW THAT STATE OF WHICH i AM TALKING > > >ABOUT -THE SECONDARY

REFLECTION STATE ,THE FIRST THOUGHT > > >STATE,THE > > >EGO IN sRI

rAMANA MAHARSHI'S TEACHINGS,FROM WHERE i HAVE TO > > >RETRACE IT

FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO ITS SOURCE. > > > > > >jNANADEVATU

KAIVALYAM!!! > > > > > >lOVE ONLY, > > > > > >BHUVANESWAR > > > > >

>On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 ecirada wrote : > > > >On 9/21/03 at 8:56 AM

bhuvan eswar chilukuri wrote: > > > > > > > >ºHellolooloo Fred the

seeker of advaitha and Ramana, > > > >º > > > >ºThat is the beginning

of all fusion from and of all > > > >confusion!!! > > > >º > > > >ºHow

can light and darkness co-exist!!! > > > > > > > >Similar as at a

moonless night. Remember, light isn't seen > > >until > > > >it hits

the eyes. > > > > > > > >º > > > >ºI wonder what happens to you when

you next time holda woman > > >in > > > >ºyour embrace and then

simultaneously ask who is holding whom > > > >and > > > >ºthen

immediately separate the question from the questioner > > >and > > >

>ºhold the questioner tight ,man!!!,real tight without any gap > > >

>ºbetween the holding and the held !!! > > > > > > > >Swami Sivananda

once wrote a paragraph titled "miserable > > >mundane > > > >life" > >

> >and mentioned man as the sporting lapdog of women, who are as > > >

>real as the > > > >artificial color of their hair, the set of false

teeth, and as > > >he > > > >remarked, > > > >"after a few weeks of

fever, not having been washed, the > > >stench > > > >is abominable".

> > > >You get the picture, that was meant to show the issue of > >

>"lust", > > > >a most tenacious > > > >property of the "John Doe"

type of householder who doesn't > > >know > > > >the difference > > >

>between "love" and "lust": true love needs no object. > > > >º > > >

>ºThen you will > > > >º > > > >ºaaaaaoohhhooo > > >

>º!!!uuuuuhhhihii......mmmmmmm.....0000000.SIIILLLEEENCCe. > > > >º >

> > >ºBoy!!! > > > > > > > >During John Doe's everyday life, the

silence isn't > > >recognized, > > > >too busy watching movies,

listening to the boss, colleagues, > > >a > > > >nagging wife,

screaming kids and the barking dog: the mind is > > > >at > > > >rest

in deep dreamless sleep only. > > > >º > > > >ºKami ga:ni mo:ksha

ga:mi ga:du > > > >ºlover but salvation but not become > > > >º > > >

>º'Unless a lover ,a seeker after truth he will not become!' > > > > >

> > >Wrong: Nirguna Brahman is uncaused so a seeker stays a seeker > >

> >until the attitude is given up, all attitudes are given up. > > >

>º > > > >ºLove to the very marrow of the bones of your lover.All the

> > > >ºbest!!! > > > > > > > >Where stays love in deep dreamless

sleep? > > > >º > > > >ºYou know what happened to one of our beloved

saints Kabir > > > >Das(?) > > > >º,the poet: > > > >º > > > >ºhe too

fell in love with his wife top,bottom,center,left and > > >

>ºright,inside and outside and every side !!! > > > >º > > >

>ºHooyyaa! > > > > > > > >Love is a subject-object issue for most.

Ramana fell in love > > >with > > > >the red mountain > > > >and

wrote a series of poems on it, the 40 verses. > > > >º > > > >ºin the

stormy night , he mistook a corpse for a log and held > > >on > > >

>to > > > >ºit in the mighty Ganga,crossed the river in the dark

night > > >and > > > >ºthen reached the house of his beloved wife and

climbed > > > >through > > > >ºthe black serpent thinking that it was

a rope and reached > > >the > > > >ºupstairs to see his love.When his

wife saw him dripping in > > >the > > > >ºdownstairs ( in rain,boy!)

,she said, > > > >º > > > >º"If only you show this to God!!!" > > >

>º > > > >ºThat is the end of the whole show and the beginning of all

> > > >ºshows!!! > > > > > > > >The end of the show is when "God" is

seen for what it is, > > > >instead > > > >of a creator without a

creator. > > > >º > > > >º > > > >ºLove only the one who created the

most beautiful woman!!! > > > > > > > >Care to know "love for the

other gender" is rooted in the > > >mating > > > >issue? > > > >Do

you love a diseased women of 80, who hasn't been washed for > > >6 >

> > >months, > > > >just as much as the fertile woman in her

mid-twenties? > > > >º > > > >ºHow much more beautiful he will be!!!

> > > > > > > >Beauty has a biological basis: fertility again.

Symmetry for > > > >instance > > > >signifies flawless genes. In

order not to hurt your feelings, > > >the > > > >mind > > > >issues a

message like "oh what a beautiful goddess, i want to > > > >share my >

> > >life with her" instead of "get her into a cave, have fun, > > >

>finished!". > > > >º > > > >ºI am a bachelor and I am trying but the

going is slippery!!! > > > > > > > >Swami Sivananda's "practice of

yoga" has a chapter devoted to > > > >bachelors like you: a "must

read". > > > >º > > > >ºBECAUSE I AM FOOOOOOTLOOOOSE !!!I am getting

some proverbial > > > >ºexercises to make my feet strong!!! > > > > >

> > >Easy: who wants to be hoodwinked by what in some systems is > > >

>called "lower nature"? > > > >º > > > >ºAs Larus found the red lotus

flowers > > > >ºWhere there is a will there is a way > > > >ºWhere

there is a will God will show the way > > > >ºAs Larus found the red

lotus flowers > > > > > > > >"As you meditate, so you become". > > >

>º > > > >ºYou know about this lotus show? > > > >ºIf not ask one

Lady Joy - she is in Heaven but descends once > > >in > > > >a > > >

>ºway to and nowadays to > > >Proverbiallinguists.She

> > > >ºknows what is love since she wrote n immortal poem on love >

> > >just > > > >ºrecently!!! > > > > > > > >No dirt will stick to a

lotus leaf: growing from the mud, it > > >is > > > >stainless > > >

>even when the flowers are gone. > > > >º > > > >ºSEEYAALOVERBOY > >

> > > > > >Take care and don't get carried away. > > > >Does the word

"equanimity" ring a bell here? > > > >It will, when instead of pouring

milk over holy linga, > > > >it is offered to the needy, the homeless,

starving in the > > > >streets. Same milk that yet makes can make a

difference. > > > > > > > >Remember, Namadev realized, by seeing

Krishna in a stray dog. > > > >He offered food, Krishna tested

Namadev and then showed > > > >himself. > > > >You treat homeless and

hungry one(s) like Krishna, and same > > > >happens. > > > >This is

life of true Bhakta, Jnani and Buddha, > > >simultaneously, > > >

>like Sivananda showed. > > > >º > > > >º > > > >ºYOURS Proverbially

in HarshhhARShAICALLY, > > > >º > > > >ºChilukuri Bhuvaneswar > > > >

> > > >No-thing matters but matter cannot know that. > > > > > > >

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