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And you are all-knowing, all-wise, all-compassionate?

 

Just such attacks on the sharing of others is just what discourages

members from sharing. This kind of post is not worthy of members of

this group who have shared love deeply intimate with poetry and

sensitivity.

 

Sharing your own experience and opinion is one thing, but attacking

the posts of others is mean-spirited and not in the spirit of this

group.

 

May your heart and mind be one, and find a loving way to live and

express yourself.

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> , SCDee55@w... wrote:

> > Thanks for posting the

> http://www.realization.org/page/doc1/doc109a.htm

> > url, very interesting reading. I had part of the same experience

>

> Namaste,

>

> There is much hoo ha and folksy urban myth about Kundalini

> experience. If one reads Lakshmana Swami and even Ramana you will

see

> they say it exists in imagination ie the mind.

> What people call K is actually prana cleaning their dirty sheaths.

> One doesn't crow about how much energy it takes to clean one's

floor

> does one?

> Sarada Devi the consort of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa says the

> K 'rises', by doing Japa.

> Actually the cleaner the sheaths or kosas the less the activity. K

> can rise imperceptibly for it is just the rise of consciousness.

> My first experience was accompanied with surges of sound, energy,

> bliss and I fell over from my sitting position. Since then I can

feel

> the energy circulating sometimes in meditation.

> There is no point in getting attached to experiences within

> delusion..So called K stops at the so called Crown Cakra anyway it

is

> within creation.....ONS...Tony.

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.. I will say it again Kundalini is in delusion and illusion

ultimately for it is everything or mind. If one gets attached to this

however subtle it is still an impediment....I attacked nobody perhaps

you should go to the Kundalini list with mistress angelique I'm sure

she would welcome you..

We welcome everybody on K-list! Actually, my own experience suggests

to me that kundalini occurs on the subtle (as opposed to mental or

causal) level but that its work can clear the way for

self-realization. As Tony suggests, though, k-phenomena are best

regarded as a means, not an end. Holly

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, "John Logan"

<johnrloganis> wrote:

> And you are all-knowing, all-wise, all-compassionate?

>

> Just such attacks on the sharing of others is just what discourages

> members from sharing. This kind of post is not worthy of members of

> this group who have shared love deeply intimate with poetry and

> sensitivity.

 

Namaste,

 

I'm sorry you took it that way. I assumed people on here would have

read Ramana and Lakshamama. I have said nothing but my opinion and my

experience that is all.

Some people think they are the body and are offended when presented

with another reality. Others are offended by people being vegetarians

etc. I will say it again Kundalini is in delusion and illusion

ultimately for it is everything or mind. If one gets attached to this

however subtle it is still an impediment....I attacked nobody perhaps

you should go to the Kundalini list with mistress angelique I'm sure

she would welcome you...Here on this list I try to stay within what I

know Ramana has said or my own experience that's all.......ONS...Tony.

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> Namaste,

>

> I'm sorry you took it that way. I assumed people on here would have

> read Ramana and Lakshamama. I have said nothing but my opinion and

my

> experience that is all.

> Some people think they are the body and are offended when presented

> with another reality. Others are offended by people being

vegetarians

> etc. I will say it again Kundalini is in delusion and illusion

> ultimately for it is everything or mind. If one gets attached to

this

> however subtle it is still an impediment....I attacked nobody

perhaps

> you should go to the Kundalini list with mistress angelique I'm

sure

> she would welcome you...Here on this list I try to stay within what

I

> know Ramana has said or my own experience that's

all.......ONS...Tony.

 

devi: may i remind you what is on the home page...

 

"The discussions are typically expected to focus on Self-Realization,

Kundalini Shakti and Its Manifestations, God-Realization, the

Goddess, Enlightenment, and various types of Samadhis (Savikalpa and

Nirvikalpa). Discussion of various teachers and teachings can also be

enriching as long as there is mutual respect and a feeling of amity

in the conversation. "

 

notice that kundilini shakti is on the list for discussion...

 

also, i would like to say that the kundilini is as real as your

children are...yes? tony?

 

smiles

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, "devianandi" <devi@p...> wrote:

>

> devi: may i remind you what is on the home page...

>

> "The discussions are typically expected to focus on Self-

Realization,

> Kundalini Shakti and Its Manifestations, God-Realization, the

> Goddess, Enlightenment, and various types of Samadhis (Savikalpa

and

> Nirvikalpa). Discussion of various teachers and teachings can also

be

> enriching as long as there is mutual respect and a feeling of amity

> in the conversation. "

>

> notice that kundilini shakti is on the list for discussion...

>

> also, i would like to say that the kundilini is as real as your

> children are...yes? tony?

>

> smiles

 

Namaste,

 

Both kundalini and my children are an illusion.........ONS...Tony.

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