Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but leads to liberation for the wise". Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called the energy of consciousness in manifestation. When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit-Ananda as One's very Being. Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an independent entity). It is Real as the Self. Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 , Harsha wrote: > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but leads to liberation for the wise". > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called the energy of consciousness in manifestation. > > When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit- Ananda as One's very Being. > > Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an independent entity). It is Real as the Self. > > Love to all > Harsha Namaste Harsha, I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit- Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Dear Harshaji: What would we do without you? You always say it with such beauty and Grace... ....In the scriptures and stotras of ShAktam, it is very often said that She gives 'excellence of speech'to Her devotees. In this very sloka (#15) that is what itsays. Why all this importance to this Grace of the Goddess?... Thus spake the Paramacharya. Ps... Now if we can just get you to format your emails to wrap better. Good thing you are not incarnate as a woman... I can just see you trying to wrap a sari :-) Better to stick to the Grace of the Soundaryalahari Blessed Be... LOL, Joyce - Harsha Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:18 AM Kundalini Shakti The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but leads to liberation for the wise". Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called the energy of consciousness in manifestation. When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit-Ananda as One's very Being. Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an independent entity). It is Real as the Self. Love to all Harsha /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Harsha wrote: > > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but > leads to liberation for the wise". > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it > Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as > illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything > possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. > This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called > the energy of consciousness in manifestation. > > > > When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws > into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and > Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self > Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies > on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for > the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit- > Ananda as One's very Being. > > > > Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an > independent entity). It is Real as the Self. > > > > Love to all > > Harsha > Namaste Harsha, > > I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on > liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only > Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or > perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit- > Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here Only grace. For or against ? Don't waste your energy. An appearance occurs....your relationship? Grace, love. Who does Kundalini appear to? If All is the Self, then Kundalini too. Of course..... Jai Ramana! ))))))))Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Harsha wrote: > > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga Pradipika and Siva > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini "binds a fool but > leads to liberation for the wise". > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to be so. We call it > Maya which means Mother. Maya can also be roughly translated as > illusion. It really means supremely magical which makes anything > possible. Everything is magical due to the force of Imagination. > This Imagination is not independent of the Self. It can be called > the energy of consciousness in manifestation. > > > > When the overwhelming and supreme force of Imagination withdraws > into Its Source, then arises the Supreme State of Joy and > Completion, devoid of doubt or thought, being the pure state of Self > Existent Effulgence which is Pure Consciousness itself, which relies > on nothing but is the foundation and the underlying substance for > the whole cosmos. Self-knowledge refers to this Knowing of Sat-Chit- > Ananda as One's very Being. > > > > Even the Vedas declare that the world is unreal (seen as an > independent entity). It is Real as the Self. > > > > Love to all > > Harsha > Namaste Harsha, > > I agree with you to the Saguna level, or Sakti level but on > liberation according to Ramana it all disappears there is only > Nirguna. So using Kundalini Sakti is not advaita but dvaita or > perhaps visishatadvaita as that is the Ishatadevata........Sat-Chit- > Aananda is also Saguna.............ONS...Tony I hear echos here hello Tony, I agree with what Shawn said, but would love to learn about these: Nirguna Saguna and Ishatadevata Karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 SNIP The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga > Pradipika and Siva > > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini > "binds a fool but > > leads to liberation for the wise". > > > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to > be so. The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This is the only way in which SELF reveals its transcendental nature. Love, michael The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 , Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes> wrote: > SNIP > > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga > > Pradipika and Siva > > > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini > > "binds a fool but > > > leads to liberation for the wise". > > > > > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to > > be so. > > The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed > through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This > is the only way in which SELF reveals its > transcendental nature. > > michael Namaste, This is true in as much as we are Praneaswara or kundalini itself. The true Self or Nirguna reveals nothing. Most Sages like Ramana talk mostly to audience at the time so one has to bear that in mind. Ultimately even Sat-Cit-Ananda, Kundalini Sakti, Saguna Brahman is an illusion and ultmatately don't exist. Even at Pralaya they are subsumed in the main. As Ramana says in his theories of creation piece, on moksha it all never happened...............ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Michael Bowes > <rmichaelbowes> wrote: > > SNIP > > > > The great Hatha Yoga classics (Hatha Yoga > > > Pradipika and Siva > > > > Samhita) clearly state that the awakened Kundalini > > > "binds a fool but > > > > leads to liberation for the wise". > > > > > > > > > > Shakti is indeed the Self and reveals Herself to > > > be so. > > > > The TRANSCENDENTAL knowledge of the SELF is revealed > > through the action of the Maha Shakti Kundalini. This > > is the only way in which SELF reveals its > > transcendental nature. > > > > michael > > Namaste, > > This is true in as much as we are Praneaswara or kundalini itself. > The true Self or Nirguna reveals nothing. Most Sages like Ramana > talk mostly to audience at the time so one has to bear that in mind. > Ultimately even Sat-Cit-Ananda, Kundalini Sakti, Saguna Brahman is > an illusion and ultmatately don't exist. Even at Pralaya they are > subsumed in the main. As Ramana says in his theories of creation > piece, on moksha it all never happened...............ONS..Tony. thank you Tony, I will study what you rote, I must look up all the sanskrit words Translation is difficult, I tried it to Hungarian, there all the esoteric literature was indexed during the 50 years of communist regime and words and meaning were missing all together Karta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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