The Wisdom of Master Zenbob

[Guest guest]

Ah Zenbob, so nice to have you back!

Just for you and Tony (Ha!) here is a sneak preview of some jokes that

may or may not be put in today's NDhighlights. I'm guessing NOT, but

desperation makes for desparate choices.

http://www.wutsamada.com/comix/empty.jpg

http://www.wutsamada..com/comix/phlneigh.jpg

Love you guys,

Gloria

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zen2wrk (AT) aol (DOT) com

(AT) (DOT) .com

Friday, October 17, 2003 12:36 PM

Re: Re: The Wisdom of Master Zenbob

In a message dated 10/16/2003 2:47:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aoclery writes:

It is difficult to explain, the ego/I points to nothing. There is an

inner feeling that is the I Am. The ego I is an impediment in the end

it is only reinforced by intellectual speculation. It is obviously the

thief in the palace for the work continues anyway....ONS...Tony.

Namaste Tony:

Ah, the complex dance of the mind! I understand...but I see traps for

you everywhere if you pursue this idea. And there is the rub...

What is it that suspects that ego is the thief? What is it that

"thinks" knows about the ego? Is it not the mind? Is it not the

mind that says, with a satisfied sigh, "Ah, now I have a still

mind...a state of no-thought...ah this is bliss?" But what feels the

bliss? What makes the judgement that "this or that" is better or

worse than "that or this?" What can one do, but relax, and not

obsess on the need to "conquer the ego" but simply be of pure heart

and enjoy the nature of inward peace and harmony that can be achieved

by quiet meditation?

The one who conquers their mind has done so at the price of their

faculties. What we seek is liberation, not conquest. Liberation is

given, not "achieved." Bliss is a gift, not a reflex for subjugating

the mind. Understanding is essential to progress, and understanding

exists only through the vehicle of thought which is merely the

sawdust of our mental processes...our brain and spirit involved in

knowing where and what we are in the universe.

We cannot achieve ultimate humility without some accomplishments

first. To say "it is nothing" when nothing has been achieved is vain

and vanity. To seek to deny the mind is like seeking to deny the sky.

It will rain anyway. Find a pretty umbrella instead. Therefore, do

not seek to deny your mind, instead seek to train it and make it a

worthy instrument of divine pleasure.

Namaste,

Zenbob

[Guest guest]

, "Gloria Lee"

<glee@c...> wrote:

> AOL EmailAh Zenbob, so nice to have you back!

>

> Just for you and Tony (Ha!) here is a sneak preview of some

jokes that may or may not be put in today's NDhighlights. I'm

guessing NOT, but desperation makes for desparate choices.

>

> http://www.wutsamada.com/comix/empty.jpg

>

> http://www.wutsamada..com/comix/phlneigh.jpg

>

> Love you guys,

> Gloria

 

The one with the garbage over the fence is a keeper! The other

one hits too close to home. lol

 

)))Shawn

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony, Zenbob and All,

 

> In a message dated 10/16/2003 2:47:30 PM Pacific

> Daylight Time,

> aoclery writes:

> There is an

> inner feeling that is the I Am.

 

Yes there may be an inner feeling; but when the "I"

shines forth it is undeniable and much, much more than

any abstrat inner feeling.

> The ego I is an

> impediment in the

> end it is only reinforced by intellectual

> speculation.

 

I also feel that intellectual speculation is cheap

entertainment at best. Why not practice effective

spiritual disciplines and dispense with all the

speculation?

 

 

---- zen2wrk wrote:

> Namaste Tony:

 

SNIP

> To seek

> to deny the mind is like seeking to deny the sky.

> It will rain anyway. Find

> a pretty umbrella instead. Therefore, do not seek

> to deny your mind,

> instead seek to train it and make it a worthy

> instrument of divine pleasure.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Zenbob

 

 

Well said Zenbob!!!!

 

Love,

 

michael

 

 

 

 

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