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In a message dated 10/19/2003 9:31:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aoclery writes:

Secondly it must be all unreal for even at any level, a loving "God"

couldn't impose suffering on a creature with no karmic debt. So it

can only be an illusion that like a machine ticks away by itself with

no God involved. The Inner energies of this dream can give energic

bliss, and our own emotions can give some as well but it is all in

the mind and unreal. The more I examine the evidence the more I see a

barren woman's son...........ONS...Tony.

The danger in this belief, dear Tony, is that it reduces everyone and

every living thing to mere shadows and automatons...which are neither

worthy of our care or love. That cannot be a correct view, either.

Further...if you think rightly about this...how can you know or not

know the degree of suffering or non-suffering of the bird...let alone

a world of humanity and other living entities that struggle, suffer

and die? Read the sage words of the Buddha. Suffering is a burden

that is real to the sufferer. Breaking the chain of suffering is

what the spiritual search is all about.

You miss the mark by assuming that a Just God imposed suffering upon

an innocent creature ("without karma"). First we cannot assume that

"God" imposed this cycle...what if the bird-spirit chose this life,

fully knowing the risks, the burdens, the joys and suffering it might

(and would) endure? What if the bird-spirit returns year after year,

going through the cycle of death-spirit-rebirth-death again and

again...and knowingly, lovingly, without hesitation chooses to enter

this world for the intense and fleeting joy of knowing life, and

sharing this experience joyfully with all around it? Have you never

heard the joyous symphony of small birds greeting each dawn? What is

this song if not a triumphant cry against the oncoming darkness, cold

and eventual death of a bird...when in fact bird lives on...sings on

and exults in a new day?

Tony, you see only the shadow imposed on the bird, you do not look

into his heart and know his ecstasy. Do not listen for the silence

of the dead bird. Listen to the joyous songs he sings!

Namaste,

Zenbob

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Namaste,

 

The little finch that I saw as a leaf as a bird as a leaf as a bird,

paid a last visit and died in the same spot I saw him. The lesson

being that which we see is only our own perception of rising

energies and that death is only on the balcony.

Secondly it must be all unreal for even at any level, a

loving "God" couldn't impose suffering on a creature with no karmic

debt. So it can only be an illusion that like a machine ticks away

by itself with no God involved. The Inner energies of this dream can

give energic bliss, and our own emotions can give some as well but

it is all in the mind and unreal. The more I examine the evidence

the more I see a barren woman's son...........ONS...Tony.

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, zen2wrk@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/19/2003 9:31:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> aoclery writes:

> Secondly it must be all unreal for even at any level, a

> loving "God" couldn't impose suffering on a creature with no

karmic \

Tony, you see only the shadow imposed on the bird, you do not look

into his heart and know his ecstasy. Do not listen for the silence

of the dead bird. Listen to the joyous songs he sings!

 

Namaste,

 

Zenbob

 

Namaste Bob,

 

Methinks it is you who you are trying to convince not

me....ONS..Tony.

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, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:

> , zen2wrk@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 10/19/2003 9:31:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > aoclery writes:

> > Secondly it must be all unreal for even at any level, a

> > loving "God" couldn't impose suffering on a creature with no

> karmic \

> Tony, you see only the shadow imposed on the bird, you do not look

> into his heart and know his ecstasy. Do not listen for the silence

> of the dead bird. Listen to the joyous songs he sings!

>

> Namaste,

>

> Zenbob

>

> Namaste Bob,

>

> Methinks it is you who you are trying to convince not

> me....ONS..Tony.

 

Birds in their little nests agree....

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