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~ Our Carlottian Household Nondual Deity

Melody <melody (AT) xxxxxxxxx (DOT) xxxx Thu Jun 3, 1999 8:36

am Digest #1

>From the NondualitySalon June 2, 1999:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Envision the set of all existing

things.Outside that set by definition nothing exists.Atma is not

anything in that set.Atma is not the set as a whole.Atma is the

quality of existence which defines the set.In other words,Atma does

not exist,"Atma" is

"existence".andrew~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Harsha:What

are the great Sages such as Ramanaindicating? They say feel your

existence,feel the I AM. It is Simple. That isthe tip of the iceberg.

The tip of the iceberg is Realitymanifesting as conditionedExistence.

Even if we hold on to just the conditioned Existence, withoutany

other practice, that isenough. At some point when the conditions

drop,even if for an instant, Existence Feels It Self in Fullness. It

RecognizesIT Self without the mediumof body/mind as Eternal

Perfection. So those whoRealize are content and at peace with

theirknowledge and their ignorance having gone beyondboth to the

Original Nature, call it Buddha Nature,call it Sat-Chit-Ananda, call

it what you wish.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~What I

was trying to ask was...is thisall there is to his 'event', which

wassufficient to shift his "locus of doership"from the individual to

the whole? In otherwords is that all there is to Realization?I think

not.I would have described an event very muchlike he did, but I would

not even beginto suggest that from that time foward Ino longer saw my

self as separate.Rather, for a few minutes here and theremy sense of

separation falls away....andthen

returns.Melody~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Here we

go:I) hero, in Greek mythology, famous person worshipped after death

asquasi-divine. Heroes might be actualgreat people, real or imaginary

ancestors, or “faded” deities (ancient godsdemoted to human

status).II) ego1. The self, especially as distinct from the world and

other selves.2. a. An exaggerated sense of self-importance; conceit.

b. Appropriatepride in oneself; self-esteem.Christ, depicted by the

churches as the messiah tocome is such a hero of the ego; no fully

realized human being can evermatch the picture of the "coming

messiah".Avatars matching the expectations suggested by the

deification of Rama andKrishna are heroes of theego; no fully

realized human being will ever matchthe expectations of the "coming

Kalki avatar".The maitreya is a hero of the ego; no fully

realizedhuman being will ever fulfill all qualities and possess all

supernaturalpowers required to be recognized as "maitreya".A hero of

the ego is a fictive construction suggestinga "fix" for all human

problems, somewhere in the future. There is no "fix"other than

"realize now".Jan

Read the entire first edition at -

NDhighlights/message/1

LoveAlways,

~ Our Carlottive Household Nondual Deity

Mazie & Buddhas

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