Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Dear Friends, As I stated in a previous email, classic advaita vedanta makes a big fuss about reality. Of course, the technique of negation is a major feature of classic vedanta practice. Here is a quote from Sri Ramana Gita: SRI RAMANA GITA--Chapter One, ON THE IMPORTANCE OF UPASANA (literally "being seated near", meditation.) "First Question: Is Mukti (Release from phenomenal existence) to be had by mere discrimination between the real and the unreal or are there other means for the ending of bondage? Answer to the First Question: Abidance in the Self alone releases one from all bonds. Discrimination between the real and the unreal leads to non-attachment. The jnani is unfathomable; he abides always in the Self alone. He does not consider the universe as unreal or as different from himself." In this passage Ramana states that "abidance in the Self alone releases one from all bonds. Discrimination between the real and the unreal leads only to non-attachment. Ramana goes on to say the "He (the jnani) does not consider the universe as unreal..." Michael says that discrimination between the real and the unreal leads to a nervous breakdown. There isn't anything that is unreal so what is there to discriminate. If you want reality all you have to do is open your eyes and look around. Life is real. Life is SELF. The SELF cannot be described because it is beyond description. Can we describe the universe? Can we describe life? We can describe a portion of the universe a portion of life; but the SELF is whole and it is not possible for us to understand. But life is real. Read the words of Sri Ramakrishna: GOSPEL OF SRI RAMAKRISHNA---page 310: MASTER: "...When Rama said to Dasaratha that He was going to renounce the world, it worried His father, and the king sought counsel of Vasishtha. Vasishtha said to Rama: 'Rama, why should You give up the world? Reason with me. Is this world outside God? What is there to renounce and what is there to accept? Nothing whatever exists but God. It is Brahman alone that appears as Isvara, maya, living beings, and the universe.' " THE GOSPEL OF SRI RAMAKRISHNA, page 325 "Vaikuntha: 'Is the world unreal?' Master: 'Yes, it is unreal as long as one has not realized God. Through ignorance man forgets God and speaks always of "I" and "mine". He sinks down and down, entangled in maya, deluded by "woman and gold". Maya robs him of his knowledge to such and extent that he cannot find the way of escape, though such a way exists." and a little further on in the same passage-- "Hedge it about with Kali's name If you would keep your harvest safe. Surrender yourself to God and you will achieve everything. This is the stoutest hedge of all, For Death himself cannot come near it. 'Yes, it is a strong hedge indeed. If you but realize God, you won't see the world as unsubstantial. He who has realized God knows that God Himself has become the world and all living beings. When you feed your child, you should feel that your are feeding God. You should look on your father and mother as veritable manifestations of God and the Divine Mother, and serve them as such...." Here is passage from: The life of Vivekananda, by Swami Nikhilananda: Narendra, understanding the fatal nature of Sri Ramakrishna's illness and realizing that the beloved teacher would not live long, intensified his own spiritual practices. His longing for the vision of God knew no limit. One day he asked the Master for the boon of remaining merged in samadhi three or four days at a stretch, interrupting his meditation now and then for a bite of food. "You are a fool," said the Master. "There is a state higher than that. It is you who sing: 'O Lord! Thou art all that exists.' " Sri Ramakrishna wanted the disciple to see God in all beings and to serve them in a spirit of worship. He often said that to see the world alone, without God, is ignorance, ajnana; to see God alone, without the world, is a kind of philosophical knowledge, jnana; but to see all beings permeated by the spirit of God is supreme wisdom, vijnana. Only a few blessed souls could see God dwelling in all. He wanted Naren to attain this supreme wisdom. So the Master said to him, "Settle your family affairs, first, then you shall know a state even higher than samadhi." Michael says: There is nothing but Life/God/SELF/Brahman. Life is real. Our inner being has an eternal nature. Once that is realized then one can be happy and accept existence. Love, michael New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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