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Love is here. Where is anything? Love is here. To

all the dancers within the eternal sun.

 

Love to you.

--- Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> The ONE and on(e)ly sadguru is without, and within,

> and all around at all times. It is not possible to

> be

> outside of the presence of the guru.

>

> We need not wonder or worry about "who" or "what"

> is

> the guru. SAT, existence (truth), is GURU.

>

> Love,

>

> michael

>

> --- AnneChris <am009a8716 wrote:

> > Harsha has said

> >

> > Yes, I have heard from many that Ramesh's

> favorite

> > Guru is Ramana and

> > that he has Sri Ramana's picture hanging on the

> > wall.

> >

> > Each time before commencing the teaching for the

> > day Ramesh would namaste to Ramana's picture

> >

> > What does he think about his own Guru,

> > Nisargadatta?

> >

> > He has great fondness for N. but he had some

> > temper and Ramesh is a gentle soul.

> >

> > Has N now become second favorite and recedes as

> > years go by? Please, let us know.

> >

> > Im not sure that I would say that but Ramesh

> > considers Ramana to be the ultimate guru

> >

> > Sundar said

> > Chris,

> > How is it that Ramesh, who considers Ramana as

> his

> > favorite guru, is not recommending Self Enquiry or

> > some such method for ego

> > dissolution?

> >

> > Not exactly so, Ramesh recommends that you

> > investigate one event of the day each night so as

> to

> > see whether in fact you are the doer. You will

> find

> > that nothing happens in isolation and that you

> could

> > not have brought about the end result. It was Gods

> > will Cosmic Law your destiny.

> > Basically you are not the doer and as you come

> to

> > know this at a deep level the ego first becomes

> > frustrated as "Me" thought I was the doer this is

> > followed by the weakening of the ego preparing the

> > ground for the ultimate understanding, ie

> > enlightenment which is the grace of God.

> > Incidentally he says that Ramana said in Tamil

> Who

> > am I but Ramesh feels that in fact it should have

> > been translated as " Who is this me" a fictitious

> > me

> >

> > Ramesh says that the common factor amongst sages

> > is that they fully accept that they are not the

> > doer. We expect wrongly that sages should be

> saints.

> > No they are the great enjoyers, living life to the

> > full in the moment, without guilt, judgment of

> self

> > or others.

> >

> > Instead, Ramesh seems to be leaving it destiny &

> > to God

> > who created the ego? It may be your destiny/

> Gods

> > will to do self enquiry

> > Also, does he mean that the world can not

> function

> > without the ego?

> > sundar

> >

> > Chris replys

> > The world of duality cannot function as we know

> it

> > without the ego as it is needed for interpersonal

> > relationships and for all opposites to occour ie

> war

> > and peace.

> > The sages ego is as the burnt rope it cannot

> harm

> > anyone but the sage still responds to his name and

> > still has preference but is not concerned if the

> > "prefered choice" is not available.

> >

> > Ramesh has a favourite quote of the Buddah.

> > "Events happen, deeds are done.

> > There is no individual doer of any deed."

> >

> > He also quotes Ramana

> > I am not exact in the quote but its near enough.

> > The ultimate truth

> > "There is no creation and no dissolution"

> >

> >

> > In closing I only heard of Ramesh some three

> month

> > ago so I dont claim to be an expert on the

> > teachings.

> >

> > Ramesh states that what any sage has taught is a

> > concept. ie some will believe in it some will not.

> > The moment Truth is spoken of it is reduced to a

> > concept

> >

> > So I hope I have not missunderstood the

> teachings

> > and have relayed the essence of them reasonably

> > accurately.

> > With love and respect to all

> > Chris

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