Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: [> Namaste, > > Love is not pollyanna feelings of emotion of attachment. > It is not enjoying the K energy or anything like that. > If you could see someone with an abscess and you could burst and > suck out the poison to relieve that person's pain. Without any > pollyanna do gooder emotion--------that is love.] ***Tony, giving proper medical attention is called for in that situation. There is no clear reason to equate sucking abscess with love, although I suppose one could make an argument for it in some specific situation on a deserted island**** Tony you further stated: [i actually read a > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified disgusted > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't really > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone nice letters and > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the street and > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is action. As Jesus > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the personality. ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** Harsha ===== /join Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard http://antispam./whatsnewfree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Dear Harsha, a big inner smile went through the body......... how good it is to hear your words about LOVE yes Sir thats how I experience LOVE and everytime I fell out my Self trying to "be" something instead of "just being" I hurt myself feel it instantly have to take a lot of breathing to find "myself" again to love myself again and then everything is fine..... and...... being like this there is peace around me...... solong namaste peace love and everything fine for you michael when I write my name in this way then its michael bindel >Harsha > >To: > What is Love? >Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:39:48 -0800 (PST) > >--- In , "Tony OClery" > wrote: >[> Namaste, > > > > Love is not pollyanna feelings of emotion of >attachment. > > It is not enjoying the K energy or anything like >that. > > If you could see someone with an abscess and you >could burst and > > suck out the poison to relieve that person's pain. >Without any > > pollyanna do gooder emotion--------that is love.] > >***Tony, giving proper medical attention is called for >in that situation. There is no clear reason to equate >sucking abscess with love, although I suppose one >could make an argument for it in some specific >situation on a deserted island**** > > >Tony you further stated: >[i actually read a > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified >disgusted > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't >really > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone >nice letters and > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the >street and > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is >action. As Jesus > > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > >***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is >all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is >not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see >how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > >There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the >Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have >said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like >the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I >am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that >essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the >personality. > >***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > >Harsha > > >===== >/join > > > > > > > > > >Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam./whatsnewfree STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Dear All We expect the enlightened to be "Saints" Ramesh totally disillusioned me from that concept. Even the God realized being it would seem, is subject to the same character traits he is born with. Rameshe's Guru had a short fuse ie easily aroused temper as have many other Sages. However the diference is that the Sage does not take this personally "he" witesses the emtion arising and subsiding knowing full well that he is not the doer of anything. So if Love / compassion arises it has nothing to do with the personal it is quite impersonal at source. I dont think you can choose to love or be compassionate. Its down to your DNA genes, your destiny, up todate conditioning Cosmic law and the will of God. In short you are not the doer. Ramesh quotes Buddha. (how I dislike quoting any one but I suppose it is helpful) "Events happen Deeds are done But there is no individual doer thereof" Basically there is only consciousness which expresses all the varied actions and emotions through us. With respect to all opinions and concepts. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 , Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote: > , "Tony OClery" > <aoclery> wrote: > [> Namaste, > > > > Love is not pollyanna feelings of emotion of > attachment. > > It is not enjoying the K energy or anything like > that. > > If you could see someone with an abscess and you > could burst and > > suck out the poison to relieve that person's pain. > Without any > > pollyanna do gooder emotion--------that is love.] > > ***Tony, giving proper medical attention is called for > in that situation. There is no clear reason to equate > sucking abscess with love, although I suppose one > could make an argument for it in some specific > situation on a deserted island**** > > > Tony you further stated: > [i actually read a > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified > disgusted > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't > really > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone > nice letters and > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the > street and > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is > action. As Jesus > > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > > ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is > all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is > not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see > how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > > There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the > Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have > said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like > the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I > am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that > essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the > personality. > > ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > > Harsha > and: "Love is god and God is love" ^ Sant Thakar Singh ^ his book titled as such http://santmat-meditation.net/iam Era or, 'Love is the actual form of god' ^ RM ^ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 , Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote: > > > Tony you further stated: > [i actually read a > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified > disgusted > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't > really > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone > nice letters and > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the > street and > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is > action. As Jesus > > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > > ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is > all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is > not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see > how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > > There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the > Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have > said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like > the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I > am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that > essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the > personality. > > ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > > Harsha Namaste Harsha, I think that is what was happening. Ammachi was showing complete lack of attachment and aversion. She was showing all is Love as it were. The person had a huge abscess on him and she burst it with her teeth, then without aversion sucked out the poison and pain. The lesson to the mostly Western Devotees was that at their stage, Seva was what they needed to reduce their egos. In other words action to help was what was needed to become Being. That is my reading on the incident. She was showing that everything is 'I am', like Brahma rupanam, Brahma havir, Brahmagnau, Brahma hutam, brahmaiya va tena gantavyam, Brahma karma samardina. Aham vaisvanaro bhutva pranimam deham ashrita pran apana samyukta, pranami annam catur vadur. Om Santhi Santhi Santhi. Forgive my mispelling as it just comes out of my head....ONS.....Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Chris and ALL, This is an interesting post. What is love? --- AnneChris <am009a8716 wrote: > Dear All > We expect the enlightened to be "Saints" > Ramesh totally disillusioned me from that concept. > Even the God realized being it would seem, is > subject to the same character traits he is born > with. Rameshe's Guru had a short fuse ie easily > aroused temper as have many other Sages. Love doesn't necessarily always involve a "warm, fuzzy" feeling. I feel that love is just an attitude, an intention to perform actions that are in everyones' best interests - to perform actions that are not selfish. I don't feel that love is all flowers and perfume. Sometimes love is expressed by just telling the truth about something to someone. Many times they don't appreciate it or they may even feel hurt by the words spoken; but to me it is love nonetheless. It doesn't even mean that what we do is necessarily right or best. I feel that it is the intention that matters. SNIP Regards, michael Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 http://search./top2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Michael wrote Love doesn't necessarily always involve a "warm,fuzzy" feeling. I feel that love is just an attitude,an intention to perform actions that are in everyones'best interests - to perform actions that are notselfish.I don't feel that love is all flowers and perfume.Sometimes love is expressed by just telling the truthabout something to someone. Many times they don'tappreciate it or they may even feel hurt by the wordsspoken; but to me it is love nonetheless.It doesn't even mean that what we do is necessarilyright or best. I feel that it is the intention thatmatters.Chris replys I agree Michael but where does this intention come from? When I endevour to heal people my intention is that the clients benefit from the Bi-aura session and it is my profound hope that their problem is completely alleiviated. However while most times there is improvment on rare occasions love wells up within me and the tears start to flow from my eyes and at that moment I have a deep unconditional love for that person. When this happens inevitably a major shift happens in the persons condition. I cant make this happen no matter how strong my intention is or how much normal compassion is there. This probably happens with a lot of "healers". When it is the destiny of the client to be healed it happens When it is my destiny to facilitate the healing it happens. I have absolutly nothing to do with it. And yes somtimes love is quite tactless, whatever works, but I am certainly not the healer. If I could I would fix the world. Much Love Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Harsha <harshaimtm> > wrote: > > > > > > Tony you further stated: > > [i actually read a > > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified > > disgusted > > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't > > really > > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone > > nice letters and > > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the > > street and > > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is > > action. As Jesus > > > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > > > > > ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is > > all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is > > not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see > > how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > > > > There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the > > Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have > > said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like > > the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I > > am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that > > essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the > > personality. > > > > ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > > > > Harsha > > Namaste Harsha, > > I think that is what was happening. Ammachi was showing complete > lack of attachment and aversion. She was showing all is Love as it > were. The person had a huge abscess on him and she burst it with her > teeth, then without aversion sucked out the poison and pain. > The lesson to the mostly Western Devotees was that at their stage, > Seva was what they needed to reduce their egos. In other words > action to help was what was needed to become Being. That is my > reading on the incident. She was showing that everything is 'I am', > like Brahma rupanam, Brahma havir, Brahmagnau, Brahma hutam, > brahmaiya va tena gantavyam, Brahma karma samardina. Aham vaisvanaro > bhutva pranimam deham ashrita pran apana samyukta, (pranami annam ) > catur vadur. Om Santhi Santhi Santhi. Forgive my mispelling as it > just comes out of my head....ONS.....Tony Should be pachami annam, I think, I'll have to looking in my Gita...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told him was that on this list there was a discussion happening about "What is Love?" Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?" "Love is Love!" she answered. "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five. That was the end of the discussion. (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference between the jnanis and the bhaktis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 also between the kids and the adolts - kheyalove Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM Re: What is Love? Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told him was that on this list there was a discussion happening about "What is Love?"Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?""Love is Love!" she answered."Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five.That was the end of the discussion.(I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference between the jnanis and the bhaktis! :)/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 or theory and practice ......by its fruits you can see the difference between love and LOVE LOL MICHAEL >Sam > >To: >Re: Re: What is Love? >Tue, 06 Jan 2004 07:16:36 +0100 > >also between the kids and the adolts > - > kheyalove > > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM > Re: What is Love? > > > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?" > > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?" > > "Love is Love!" she answered. > > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five. > > That was the end of the discussion. > > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > b.. To from this group, send an email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 L O V E I love is the warmth of fully acceptance of ourselves a n d a perfect strict noncompromising N O whenever this is really necessary michael >"AnneChris" > > >Re: What is Love? >Mon, 5 Jan 2004 23:59:03 -0000 > >Michael wrote > Love doesn't necessarily always involve a "warm, > fuzzy" feeling. I feel that love is just an attitude, > an intention to perform actions that are in everyones' > best interests - to perform actions that are not > selfish. > > I don't feel that love is all flowers and perfume. > Sometimes love is expressed by just telling the truth > about something to someone. Many times they don't > appreciate it or they may even feel hurt by the words > spoken; but to me it is love nonetheless. > > It doesn't even mean that what we do is necessarily > right or best. I feel that it is the intention that > matters. > > > Chris replys > I agree Michael but where does this intention come from? > > When I endevour to heal people my intention is that the clients benefit from the Bi-aura session and it is my profound hope that their problem is completely alleiviated. However while most times there is improvment on rare occasions love wells up within me and the tears start to flow from my eyes and at that moment I have a deep unconditional love for that person. When this happens inevitably a major shift happens in the persons condition. > I cant make this happen no matter how strong my intention is or how much normal compassion is there. This probably happens with a lot of "healers". > When it is the destiny of the client to be healed it happens When it is my destiny to facilitate the healing it happens. I have absolutly nothing to do with it. > And yes somtimes love is quite tactless, whatever works, but I am certainly not the healer. If I could I would fix the world. > > Much Love Chris MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Michael Bowes I agree with you tku michael bindel >Michael Bowes > >To: >Re: What is Love? >Mon, 5 Jan 2004 11:41:12 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Chris and ALL, > >This is an interesting post. What is love? > >--- AnneChris wrote: > > Dear All > > We expect the enlightened to be "Saints" > > Ramesh totally disillusioned me from that concept. > > Even the God realized being it would seem, is > > subject to the same character traits he is born > > with. Rameshe's Guru had a short fuse ie easily > > aroused temper as have many other Sages. > >Love doesn't necessarily always involve a "warm, >fuzzy" feeling. I feel that love is just an attitude, >an intention to perform actions that are in everyones' >best interests - to perform actions that are not >selfish. > >I don't feel that love is all flowers and perfume. >Sometimes love is expressed by just telling the truth >about something to someone. Many times they don't >appreciate it or they may even feel hurt by the words >spoken; but to me it is love nonetheless. > >It doesn't even mean that what we do is necessarily >right or best. I feel that it is the intention that >matters. > > >SNIP > >Regards, > >michael > > > >Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 >http://search./top2003 Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 , "kheyalove" <kheyala@n...> wrote: > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?" > > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?" > > "Love is Love!" she answered. > > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five. > > That was the end of the discussion. > > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! Namaste, Yes Love is Love is Samness is not aversion or attachment or differences, or invoker or evoker of emotion. This is the State of the Sakti but there is Beyond Sakti and States=Nirguna.......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 As we discuss what love is and, what some folks think it is not, something which Harshaji has posted in the past kept coming into my mind... So I searched through the archives and found it... With love and LOVE and LOL, Joyce True Guru Follow the truth of your heart. Be with those who allow for that. Be in the environment where that is made possible. That is Satsangha. When by grace, you find the way to the Heart, the Heart will make you Its Own. You will see that you Are the Heart It Self. That you have always been the Heart! Fullness that is complete and without edges. That is God and That is Love. That is why they say that God Is Love. ~Sri Harshaji~ - MICHAEL BINDEL Tuesday, January 06, 2004 1:22 AM Re: Re: What is Love? or theory and practice ......by its fruits you can see the difference between love and LOVE LOL MICHAEL > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?" > > "Love is Love!" she answered. (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > b.. To from this group, send an email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hi Here's a poem for you. Neverending story A song of you I am I love you Follows a course of words Trails a raven's call >From the sky Feel the sun's rays show your light In reflection The mountain trail Falls beneath these feet Steps feel the wind Warmed in the sun Wild domain Retreats Step by step Falling into the reservoir Of mankind At the feet of the mountain I fall beneath you Into your still embrace Love to you Michael --- Era <satkarta7 wrote: > , Harsha > <harshaimtm> wrote: > > , "Tony > OClery" > > <aoclery> wrote: > > [> Namaste, > > > > > > Love is not pollyanna feelings of emotion of > > attachment. > > > It is not enjoying the K energy or anything like > > that. > > > If you could see someone with an abscess and you > > could burst and > > > suck out the poison to relieve that person's > pain. > > Without any > > > pollyanna do gooder emotion--------that is > love.] > > > > ***Tony, giving proper medical attention is called > for > > in that situation. There is no clear reason to > equate > > sucking abscess with love, although I suppose one > > could make an argument for it in some specific > > situation on a deserted island**** > > > > > > Tony you further stated: > > [i actually read a > > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of > horrified > > disgusted > > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and > didn't > > really > > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending > someone > > nice letters and > > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of > the > > street and > > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it > is > > action. As Jesus > > > would say in the > Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > > > > > ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, > is > > all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love > is > > not proven by action. We can look to the saints to > see > > how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > > > > > There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why > the > > Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could > have > > said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am > like > > the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That > I > > am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that > > essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the > > personality. > > > > ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > > > > Harsha > > > > and: > > "Love is god and God is love" > > ^ Sant Thakar Singh ^ > > his book titled as such > > http://santmat-meditation.net/iam > > > Era > > or, 'Love is the actual form of god' > > ^ RM ^ > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your > > > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > also between the kids and the adolts Hi Sam, Just for fun, go grab your English dictionary and find out what "a dolt" is! Grinning in lighthearted jest, (which, come to think of it, might easily be descibed as an expression of love...) Kheyala > - > kheyalove > > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM > Re: What is Love? > > > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?" > > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?" > > "Love is Love!" she answered. > > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five. > > That was the end of the discussion. > > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Using the dictionary: Definitions of love: noun: any object of warm affection or devotion Example: "The theater was her first love or he has a passion for cock fighting" noun: a deep feeling of sexual desire and attraction Example: "Their love left them indifferent to their surroundings" noun: a strong positive emotion of regard and affection Example: "His love for his work" noun: a score of zero in tennis or squash Example: "It was 40 love" noun: sexual activities (often including sexual intercourse) between two people Example: "His lovemaking disgusted her" noun: a beloved person; used as terms of endearment verb: have a great affection or liking for Example: "I love French food" verb: be enamored or in love with Example: "She loves her husband deeply" verb: get pleasure from Example: "I love cooking" name: A surname (common: 1 in 2857 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #311) name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #4133) Alan - kheyalove Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:07 AM Re: What is Love? , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> also between the kids and the adoltsHi Sam,Just for fun, go grab your English dictionary and find out what "a dolt" is! Grinning in lighthearted jest,(which, come to think of it,might easily be descibed as an expression of love...)Kheyala> ----- Original Message ----- > kheyalove > To: > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM> Re: What is Love?> > > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?"> > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?"> > "Love is Love!" she answered.> > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five.> > That was the end of the discussion.> > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > /join> > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God."> > Sri Ramana> > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > b.. > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 :-) Finally!! A definitive answer. Thank God!!! and Al michael --- Al Larus <eg wrote: > Using the dictionary: > > Definitions of love: > > > a.. noun: any object of warm affection or > devotion > Example: "The theater was her first love or he > has a passion for cock fighting" > b.. noun: a deep feeling of sexual desire and > attraction > Example: "Their love left them indifferent to > their surroundings" > c.. noun: a strong positive emotion of regard > and affection > Example: "His love for his work" > d.. noun: a score of zero in tennis or squash > Example: "It was 40 love" > e.. noun: sexual activities (often including > sexual intercourse) between two people > Example: "His lovemaking disgusted her" > f.. noun: a beloved person; used as terms of > endearment > g.. verb: have a great affection or liking for > Example: "I love French food" > h.. verb: be enamored or in love with > Example: "She loves her husband deeply" > i.. verb: get pleasure from > Example: "I love cooking" > j.. name: A surname (common: 1 in 2857 families; > popularity rank in the U.S.: #311) > k.. name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 > females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #4133) > > Alan > - > kheyalove > > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:07 AM > Re: What is Love? > > > , Sam > <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > > > also between the kids and the adolts > > > > Hi Sam, > > Just for fun, go grab your > English dictionary and find out > what "a dolt" is! > > Grinning in lighthearted jest, > > (which, come to think of it, > might easily be descibed as an > expression of love...) > > Kheyala > > > > > > > > - > > kheyalove > > > > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM > > Re: What is Love? > > > > > > Jim came home after working all day and over > dinner he asked me > if > > anything interesting was going on online. One > of the things I > told > > him was that on this list there was a > discussion happening > > about "What is Love?" > > > > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know > what Love is!" > > > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell > me, what is love?" > > > > "Love is Love!" she answered. > > > > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five. > > > > That was the end of the discussion. > > > > > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration > of the difference > > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri > Nagamma > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ---------- > > Links > > > > > > > / > > > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > > > > > c.. Your use of is subject to > the Terms of > Service. > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > > > Links > > > / > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 , "Al Larus" <eg@k...> wrote: > Using the dictionary: > > Definitions of love: > > > a.. noun: any object of warm affection or devotion > Example: "The theater was her first love or he has a passion for cock fighting" > b.. noun: a deep feeling of sexual desire and attraction > Example: "Their love left them indifferent to their surroundings" > c.. noun: a strong positive emotion of regard and affection > Example: "His love for his work" > d.. noun: a score of zero in tennis or squash > Example: "It was 40 love" > e.. noun: sexual activities (often including sexual intercourse) between two people > Example: "His lovemaking disgusted her" > f.. noun: a beloved person; used as terms of endearment > g.. verb: have a great affection or liking for > Example: "I love French food" > h.. verb: be enamored or in love with > Example: "She loves her husband deeply" > i.. verb: get pleasure from > Example: "I love cooking" > j.. name: A surname (common: 1 in 2857 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #311) > k.. name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #4133) > > Alan. Namaste All, I rest my case.........Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 - kheyalove Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:07 AM Re: What is Love? , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> also between the kids and the adoltsHi Sam,Just for fun, go grab your English dictionary and find out what "a dolt" is! Grinning in lighthearted jest,(which, come to think of it,might easily be descibed as an expression of love...)Kheyala My dictionary said..Stupid person, which is what I thought it was when I wrote the above. It was a deliberate play on words. Thanks for the expression of love. Isn't it funny here on the earth, at least to the little ones who are still alive or to the old ones who have become little again, how everybody keeps asking things like: "What is love?" L?, Sam > - > kheyalove > To: > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM> Re: What is Love?> > > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?"> > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?"> > "Love is Love!" she answered.> > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five.> > That was the end of the discussion.> > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > /join> > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God."> > Sri Ramana> > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > b.. > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Thanks Al, now we know! - Al Larus Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:18 AM Re: Re: What is Love? Using the dictionary: Definitions of love: noun: any object of warm affection or devotion Example: "The theater was her first love or he has a passion for cock fighting" noun: a deep feeling of sexual desire and attraction Example: "Their love left them indifferent to their surroundings" noun: a strong positive emotion of regard and affection Example: "His love for his work" noun: a score of zero in tennis or squash Example: "It was 40 love" noun: sexual activities (often including sexual intercourse) between two people Example: "His lovemaking disgusted her" noun: a beloved person; used as terms of endearment verb: have a great affection or liking for Example: "I love French food" verb: be enamored or in love with Example: "She loves her husband deeply" verb: get pleasure from Example: "I love cooking" name: A surname (common: 1 in 2857 families; popularity rank in the U.S.: #311) name: A female given name (rare: 1 in 100000 females; popularity rank in the U.S.: #4133) Alan - kheyalove Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:07 AM Re: What is Love? , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> also between the kids and the adoltsHi Sam,Just for fun, go grab your English dictionary and find out what "a dolt" is! Grinning in lighthearted jest,(which, come to think of it,might easily be descibed as an expression of love...)Kheyala> ----- Original Message ----- > kheyalove > To: > Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:30 AM> Re: What is Love?> > > Jim came home after working all day and over dinner he asked me if > anything interesting was going on online. One of the things I told > him was that on this list there was a discussion happening > about "What is Love?"> > Ananda shot her hand into the air. "I know what Love is!" > > "Oh yeah?" I asked, leaning toward her. "Tell me, what is love?"> > "Love is Love!" she answered.> > "Woo hoo!!!" I yelled, giving her a high-five.> > That was the end of the discussion.> > > (I guess this is a pretty good demonstration of the difference > between the jnanis and the bhaktis! > > > > > > > > > /join> > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God."> > Sri Ramana> > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > b.. > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Harsha <harshaimtm> > wrote: > > > > > > Tony you further stated: > > [i actually read a > > > story of Ammachi doing this in front of horrified > > disgusted > > > devotees. She said they were too pampered and didn't > > really > > > understand the poor and sick etc. Sending someone > > nice letters and > > > poems is all very nice put picking somebody of the > > street and > > > clothing them or feeding them is better-----it is > > action. As Jesus > > > would say in the Beatitudes..........ONS....Tony.] > > > > > > ***Tony, feeding the poor, helping the suffering, is > > all good. Action can be informed by Love, but Love is > > not proven by action. We can look to the saints to see > > how they acted. But it is all comparison shopping. > > > > There is no point in imitating anyone. This is why the > > Lord said to Moses, "I am That I am". He could have > > said, "I am like this guy or that gal, or I am like > > the sky or the ocean, etc. But He said, I am That I > > am." Sri Ramana has told us to meditate on that > > essential nature of the feeling, "I AM" behind the > > personality. > > > > ***Love is not proven by action. Love Is Being.*** > > > > Harsha > > Namaste Harsha, > > I think that is what was happening. Ammachi was showing complete > lack of attachment and aversion. She was showing all is Love as it > were. The person had a huge abscess on him and she burst it with her > teeth, then without aversion sucked out the poison and pain. > The lesson to the mostly Western Devotees was that at their stage, > Seva was what they needed to reduce their egos. In other words > action to help was what was needed to become Being. That is my > reading on the incident. She was showing that everything is 'I am', > like Brahma rupanam, Brahma havir, Brahmagnau, Brahma hutam, > brahmaiya va tena gantavyam, Brahma karma samardina. Aham vaisvanaro > bhutva pranimam deham ashrita pran apana samyukta, pranami annam > catur vadur. Om Santhi Santhi Santhi. Forgive my mispelling as it > just comes out of my head....ONS.....Tony Namaste, Replying to this the next day. I like to read the stories of saints, and I've read about this story, but I don't remember which book it was in. When Amma was asked why she sucked the pus and licked the leper's wounds, she replied that she didn't know why. She just felt like doing it. Later, one of her devotees, read or heard, that the saliva of a saint is reputed to have healing powers. So, I suppose that's why she did it, although she didn't know why. I don't think true saints calculate their actions. They just act. Ananda Mayi Ma had her "khyel" (sp?), as she called it, which prompted her to act. Harsha said, "action can be informed by love". I think that's how the saints act, informed by love. Durga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 , "durga" <durgaji108> wrote: > > > > Namaste Harsha, > > > > I think that is what was happening. Ammachi was showing complete > > lack of attachment and aversion. She was showing all is Love as it > > were. The person had a huge abscess on him and she burst it with > her > > teeth, then without aversion sucked out the poison and pain. > > The lesson to the mostly Western Devotees was that at their stage, > > Seva was what they needed to reduce their egos. In other words > > action to help was what was needed to become Being. That is my > > reading on the incident. She was showing that everything is 'I am', > > like Brahma rupanam, Brahma havir, Brahmagnau, Brahma hutam, > > brahmaiya va tena gantavyam, Brahma karma samardina. Aham > vaisvanaro > > bhutva pranimam deham ashrita pran apana samyukta, pranami annam > > catur vadur. Om Santhi Santhi Santhi. Forgive my mispelling as it > > just comes out of my head....ONS.....Tony > > > Namaste, > > Replying to this the next day. I like to read the stories of saints, > and I've read about this story, but I don't remember which book it > was in. > > When Amma was asked why she sucked the pus and licked the leper's > wounds, she replied that she didn't know why. She just felt like > doing it. > > Later, one of her devotees, read or heard, that the saliva of a saint > is reputed to have healing powers. So, I suppose that's why she did > it, although she didn't know why. > > I don't think true saints calculate their actions. They just act. > Ananda Mayi Ma had her "khyel" (sp?), as she called it, which > prompted her to act. > > Harsha said, "action can be informed by love". > > I think that's how the saints act, informed by love. Durga Namaste Durga, suitable name for his story. I got it out of one her books, I think, 'Awaken Children', don't remember which volume. She did make the comment about her devotees being pampered and comfortable westerners that really had never suffered much, in comparison. I agree that with Saints, actions and healings happen spontaneously around them. Only a Jnani can recognise another Jnani. I don't think there is an informing by Love, per se, for they are Love, Saints and Jnanis that is...This thread started by myself making a comment on what Love is, and in fact one could include Grace as well, for that can also be be horrendous and extremely painful.ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Dear Tony, --- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote: > SNIP ....This > thread started by myself making a comment on what > Love is, and in > fact one could include Grace as well, for that can > also be be > horrendous and extremely painful.ONS..Tony. > Yes grace which is an aspect of LIFE can be extremely painful. Mostly humans don't awaken (from dream) or evolve unless they "have to". Humans will mostly only do what they have to do to in order to avoid or alleviate pain and suffering. So suffering is the way of LIFE until one becomes not suffering any more. Warmenst regards, michael Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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