Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 The poem in the link below was in a recent ND Highlights posted by Mark Otter. It struck me because I like the way Adyashanti expresses. It also reminded me of what Harshaji has said to us in so many ways, most recently in Sahaj Samadhi. I remember when I first read "The Ordinary Mind is the Buddha Mind" which Harsha wrote in the most recent edition of the HSS mag. I thought... "WHAT? The Ordinary mind is the Buddha mind? Just when I am starting to begin to grasp all this intricate conceptual stuff, you want to tell me that it is that simple? Hmmphh, #&**&^(@#%#&^, and phooey on you, too!" I hate it when you are right, Harshaji :-) Anyway, this is how the poem is introduced... One day while meditating Adyashanti heard a bird chirping and the question arose "Who hears this sound?" [ Hmmmmm...sound familiar?...LJ] He then wrote this poem: http://www.omshaantih.com/Ordinary1.html Love, Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Dear Joyce, Thank you for this posting. Please don't think I am trying to give the impression of being knowledgeable -- in fact I have just woken from an afternoon sleep and I am feeling quite disoriented -- but your posting reminds me of something that Francis Lucille once said, that this ordinary consciousness that one always knows is what one is seeking, and, that when things are rightly seen, there is no Seer and there is no object seen (a tennis racquet, say) there is only seeing. Very much love Warwick - Lady Joyce Monday, February 02, 2004 3:17 PM So Ordinary The poem in the link below was in a recent ND Highlights posted by Mark Otter. It struck me because I like the way Adyashanti expresses. It also reminded me of what Harshaji has said to us in so many ways, most recently in Sahaj Samadhi. I remember when I first read "The Ordinary Mind is the Buddha Mind" which Harsha wrote in the most recent edition of the HSS mag. I thought... "WHAT? The Ordinary mind is the Buddha mind? Just when I am starting to begin to grasp all this intricate conceptual stuff, you want to tell me that it is that simple? Hmmphh, #&**&^(@#%#&^, and phooey on you, too!" I hate it when you are right, Harshaji :-) Anyway, this is how the poem is introduced... One day while meditating Adyashanti heard a bird chirping and the question arose "Who hears this sound?" [ Hmmmmm...sound familiar?...LJ] He then wrote this poem: http://www.omshaantih.com/Ordinary1.html Love, Joyce /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Anyway, this is how the poem is introduced... One day while meditating Adyashanti heard a bird chirping and the question arose "Who hears this sound?" [ Hmmmmm...sound familiar?...LJ] He then wrote this poem: http://www.omshaantih.com/Ordinary1.html Love, Joyce Thanks Joyce, Love... catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Joyce, What a storm has erupted since this was posted. Do you think it would make any difference if one were to make a distinction between "mind" and "consciousness". This is what Sri Atmananda does in his little book, Atma Darshan. In this case, "consciousness" would be unmoving. That's the most significant thing about it, "Consciousness doesn't move." It would have no attributes. It would have no boundaries, so no separation is possible. It would not exist within the realm of time. "Mind', on the other hand, is constantly moving. Mind has its existence firmly within the realm of time. Mind has shape and boundaries, so separation is not only possible, it is inevitable. Consciousness is that which, being itself unmoving, can see all the movements of thoughts-in-time. The next step is to see that the two realms, time and eternity, mind and consciousness, are not really separate. Mind is the continually-changing form, or forms, assumed by consciousness. Mind, (ideas, perception, emotions-that-come-and-go, fears, hopes, )occur within consciousness. To use the well-known ocean metaphor, ocean is water. In its depths of the ocean,the water is still; it is consciousness. On the surface it assumes form, waves, that are constantly in motion. In the metaphor, waves are mind, thoughts, emotion and the like. But waves are not separate from water; they are just water-in-motion. And the depths of the ocean is water -at- rest. And ocean is all. Although one is mostly mind, one is not essentially, or even necessarily, mind; one can be water at rest, pure, formless consciousness. But one is always, and necessarily, consciousness. Is that helpful in any way? Much love Warwick - Lady Joyce Monday, February 02, 2004 3:17 PM So Ordinary The poem in the link below was in a recent ND Highlights posted by Mark Otter. It struck me because I like the way Adyashanti expresses. It also reminded me of what Harshaji has said to us in so many ways, most recently in Sahaj Samadhi. I remember when I first read "The Ordinary Mind is the Buddha Mind" which Harsha wrote in the most recent edition of the HSS mag. I thought... "WHAT? The Ordinary mind is the Buddha mind? Just when I am starting to begin to grasp all this intricate conceptual stuff, you want to tell me that it is that simple? Hmmphh, #&**&^(@#%#&^, and phooey on you, too!" I hate it when you are right, Harshaji :-) Anyway, this is how the poem is introduced... One day while meditating Adyashanti heard a bird chirping and the question arose "Who hears this sound?" [ Hmmmmm...sound familiar?...LJ] He then wrote this poem: http://www.omshaantih.com/Ordinary1.html Love, Joyce /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 , "Warwick Wakefield" <formandsubstance@t...> wrote: > Dear Joyce, > > What a storm has erupted since this was posted. > > Do you think it would make any difference if one were to make a distinction between "mind" and "consciousness". > This is what Sri Atmananda does in his little book, Atma Darshan. > Namaste, Conscious of what? There is ultimately no need for consciousness it is Saguna quality.........ONS...Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 >Conscious of what? There is ultimately no need for consciousness it >is Saguna quality.........ONS...Tony Posting above Love itself is the actual form of God may I ask; When is ultimately? (What is Saguna and Nirguna ? ) Alan Attachment: (image/jpeg) manjushri2[1].jpg [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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