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, Michael Bowes

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:

>

> --- devianandi <devi@p...> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Tony or anyONE,

> > >

> > > Can someone explain to me what is the "now" that

> > Tolle

> > > is referring to in this document? I've never read

> > > Tolle's stuff and I don't know what he means by

> > the

> > > term "now".

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > michael

> >

> > devi: i think it might mean something like this....

> >

> > when your eating your apple your not thinking of

> > going to the movies

> > the next day, your pay attention to the apple your

> > eating right then

> > and there...

> >

> >

>

> michael: I see. Well according to what Tony posted

> Mr. Tolle seems to be renouncing the "now" in favor of

> the future and the past. Hmmmm!

>

> The longer I live, the less I understand.

>

> michael

 

devi: that *renouncement* was a joke, right?

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, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

> , "AnneChris"

<am009a8716@b...>

> wrote:

> > Tony said

> > Pardon me to say to you Chris.

> > Be careful where you tread in the garden, and don't fall

> into 'True Believer Syndrome',

>

>

> > Ramana I believe, if I have not missunderstood taught that

there

> is no free will and this is what I now believe.

> > Its all the will of God and destiny.

> > I can do no wrong or right neither can anyone else as they are

> not the doer either.

>

> Namaste Chris, IMO,

>

> Yes Ramana taught that everything is predetermined by our prarabda

> karma. Not a God per se but karmic reaction, is how I see that. Our

> freewill is the freedom to react to circumstances in different and

> learning ways or not, and even that is karmic.........ONS..Tony

 

devi: i keep a copy of nisargadattas *i am that* in my car and when i

have to wait i pick it up and yesterday i read this very idea...

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--- devianandi <devi wrote:

> , Michael Bowes

>

> <rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> >

> > --- devianandi <devi@p...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Tony or anyONE,

> > > >

> > > > Can someone explain to me what is the "now"

> that

> > > Tolle

> > > > is referring to in this document? I've never

> read

> > > > Tolle's stuff and I don't know what he means

> by

> > > the

> > > > term "now".

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > michael

> > >

> > > devi: i think it might mean something like

> this....

> > >

> > > when your eating your apple your not thinking of

> > > going to the movies

> > > the next day, your pay attention to the apple

> your

> > > eating right then

> > > and there...

> > >

> > >

> >

> > michael: I see. Well according to what Tony

> posted

> > Mr. Tolle seems to be renouncing the "now" in

> favor of

> > the future and the past. Hmmmm!

> >

> > The longer I live, the less I understand.

> >

> > michael

>

> devi: that *renouncement* was a joke, right?

>

>

michael: Yeah, it turned out to be a joke. Maybe

that's why I couldn't understand it? Then maybe

not????

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, Michael Bowes

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:

>

> --- devianandi <devi@p...> wrote:

> > , Michael Bowes

> >

> > <rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> > >

> > > --- devianandi <devi@p...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Tony or anyONE,

> > > > >

> > > > > Can someone explain to me what is the "now"

> > that

> > > > Tolle

> > > > > is referring to in this document? I've never

> > read

> > > > > Tolle's stuff and I don't know what he means

> > by

> > > > the

> > > > > term "now".

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > michael

> > > >

> > > > devi: i think it might mean something like

> > this....

> > > >

> > > > when your eating your apple your not thinking of

> > > > going to the movies

> > > > the next day, your pay attention to the apple

> > your

> > > > eating right then

> > > > and there...

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > michael: I see. Well according to what Tony

> > posted

> > > Mr. Tolle seems to be renouncing the "now" in

> > favor of

> > > the future and the past. Hmmmm!

> > >

> > > The longer I live, the less I understand.

> > >

> > > michael

> >

> > devi: that *renouncement* was a joke, right?

> >

> >

> michael: Yeah, it turned out to be a joke. Maybe

> that's why I couldn't understand it? Then maybe

> not????

 

devi: hmm, i honestly don't know much about tolle except that at one

time he was a very insecure individual..and then had some sort of

realization and then he felt secure...i've also heard that he is

proficient in the non-dual speak and that alot of people are reading

his books and thinking he's reached enlightenement..so, i could have

thought that was a serious turnabout for him...anyway i don't pay

attention to anyone or an text that doesn't clearly talk about God or

the Self...or kaivalya and the higher samadais....it's a pretty

straight and narrow path...

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