Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Reentering the Sea If you have seen the movie, Whalerider, you know that there is a scene where the young girl climbs upon the back of a beached whale and rides it back into the sea. "I am not afraid to die," she says (or words to that effect). As she goes underwater, you fear that she will, but she survives and becomes the leader of her tribe. ("The true you emerges when there is no attempt to prove anything to anyone." Vernon Kitabu Turner, Soul Sword.) We are a puny bunch of people these days, are we not? Riding whales into the oceanic depths is only something that people do in the movies. I have a hard time driving in traffic. But this story moved me. It is a call to spiritual warriorship. Turner writes compellingly about warriorship. "There are many ways to flow with the wind. One way is to trust yourself to be yourself." Spirituality is that in us which is undivided; the mind cannot go beyond its element. We must trust the process of surrender if we are to go beneath the waves of sorrow and resurface with our spirit intact. I have only begun to make this journey of riding my soul back to its native home. My mind encourages me to postpone the journey. To stay and argue with people about rules and regulations, about insurance and appointments shown on the calendar. I do not have to die to honor these commitments. I can continue living a plastic life, compartmentalized and sane. But underneath the sea rages. I have a cd by Herding Cats that I like. There is a line in one song about "where the black waters roll." I can almost physically feel these black waters in my body as the song plays. I know these waters well (don't we all?) Where is our courage on any given day? Bob had to get five vials of blood drawn yesterday when he exited the trial drug study that he was on. The nurse who was drawing his blood had great difficulity in getting enough blood to come out. There were four people watching and we were all cringing. I asked him twice if he was okay, and he said that he was. Once we got home, I was able to let my hair down and feel the accumulated stress in my body. Today we sat and meditated for a while. We talked about regaining our spirit during the next three weeks that he has off before resuming chemo once again. We have been violated by a society that values knowledge above spirit and answers above the process of questioning. It is time for us to ride the whale back into the sea. I feel so alone in all of this. The past three years since Bob's diagnosis have been difficult. But it cannot be otherwise. This is a spiritual journey as well as a physical one. Only spirit can prove strong enough to endure what lies ahead. Vicki Woodyard http://www.bobwoodyard.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 - skiplaurel Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:49 AM Reentering the Sea Reentering the SeaIf you have seen the movie, Whalerider, you know that there is a scene where the young girl climbs upon the back of a beached whale and rides it back into the sea. "I am not afraid to die," she says (or words to that effect). As she goes underwater, you fear that she will, but she survives and becomes the leader of her tribe. ("The true you emerges when there is no attempt to prove anything to anyone." Vernon Kitabu Turner, Soul Sword.)We are a puny bunch of people these days, are we not? Riding whales into the oceanic depths is only something that people do in the movies. I have a hard time driving in traffic. But this story moved me. It is a call to spiritual warriorship. Turner writes compellingly about warriorship. "There are many ways to flow with the wind. One way is to trust yourself to be yourself." Spirituality is that in us which is undivided; the mind cannot go beyond its element. We must trust the process of surrender if we are to go beneath the waves of sorrow and resurface with our spirit intact. I have only begun to make this journey of riding my soul back to its native home. My mind encourages me to postpone the journey. To stay and argue with people about rules and regulations, about insurance and appointments shown on the calendar. I do not have to die to honor these commitments. I can continue living a plastic life, compartmentalized and sane. But underneath the sea rages.I have a cd by Herding Cats that I like. There is a line in one song about "where the black waters roll." I can almost physically feel these black waters in my body as the song plays. I know these waters well (don't we all?) Where is our courage on any given day? Bob had to get five vials of blood drawn yesterday when he exited the trial drug study that he was on. The nurse who was drawing his blood had great difficulity in getting enough blood to come out. There were four people watching and we were all cringing. I asked him twice if he was okay, and he said that he was. Once we got home, I was able to let my hair down and feel the accumulated stress in my body.Today we sat and meditated for a while. We talked about regaining our spirit during the next three weeks that he has off before resuming chemo once again. We have been violated by a society that values knowledge above spirit and answers above the process of questioning. It is time for us to ride the whale back into the sea.I feel so alone in all of this. The past three years since Bob's diagnosis have been difficult. But it cannot be otherwise. This is a spiritual journey as well as a physical one. Only spirit can prove strong enough to endure what lies ahead.Vicki Woodyard Hullo Vicki, I have just finished reading your note and I think I can well-imagine the situation that you are in, and I feel for you. But I want to ask you a very simple question "Do you know, have you at least had a glimpse of, who you really are?" You might find the question insulting, and if so, so be it. Read no further and delete this message. But I don't intend any insult at all. When I saw who I really am it was a surprise - I had heard about this "who you really are" business for years, but until I saw for myself it meant nothing. It is not difficult. It is not rocket science. I have been able to show it to others. And if you are interested, I might be able to guide you to see it. Seeing who you really are is not the same as "being enlightened", whatever that might be. It is not the same as being "self-realized", whatever that might be. It is not the same as an "end to all suffering". But it is the first step. And once you've seen it it is yours. You may lose sight of it, temporarily, but it will always return. As Atmananda says, in Atma-Darshan, "This is not the final word. Work lies ahead to remove the sense of separateness." But it is the first and necessary step. And once you have seen this, things that are said by the Advaita sages become understandable in a way which they previously were not. As Atmananda says a few pages on, "For eternal peace, persistent striving is necessary till enlightenment." Vicki, some of us here are taking things easy, pretty sure that everything has been more-or-less figured out. I fit into the "constant striving category." And if you are interested in my offer regarding seeing "who one really is", let me know. Much love Warwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Dear Vicky, thanks so much for your openness and courage - it touched me. You are never alone on your journey back home - never. If you are ready to see and feel it. Contact me - if you feel "it" michael _bindel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com ride your whale into paradise peace and love to you michael bindel >"skiplaurel" > >To: > Reentering the Sea >Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:49:18 -0000 > >Reentering the Sea > >If you have seen the movie, Whalerider, you know that there is a scene where the young girl climbs upon the back of a beached whale and rides it back into the sea. "I am not afraid to die," she says (or words to that effect). As she goes underwater, you fear that she will, but she survives and becomes the leader of her tribe. ("The true you emerges when there is no attempt to prove anything to anyone." Vernon Kitabu Turner, Soul Sword.) > >We are a puny bunch of people these days, are we not? Riding whales into the oceanic depths is only something that people do in the movies. I have a hard time driving in traffic. But this story moved me. It is a call to spiritual warriorship. Turner writes compellingly about warriorship. "There are many ways to flow with the wind. One way is to trust yourself to be yourself." > >Spirituality is that in us which is undivided; the mind cannot go beyond its element. We must trust the process of surrender if we are to go beneath the waves of sorrow and resurface with our spirit intact. I have only begun to make this journey of riding my soul back to its native home. My mind encourages me to postpone the journey. To stay and argue with people about rules and regulations, about insurance and appointments shown on the calendar. I do not have to die to honor these commitments. I can continue living a plastic life, compartmentalized and sane. But underneath the sea rages. > >I have a cd by Herding Cats that I like. There is a line in one song about "where the black waters roll." I can almost physically feel these black waters in my body as the song plays. I know these waters well (don't we all?) Where is our courage on any given day? Bob had to get five vials of blood drawn yesterday when he exited the trial drug study that he was on. The nurse who was drawing his blood had great difficulity in getting enough blood to come out. There were four people watching and we were all cringing. I asked him twice if he was okay, and he said that he was. Once we got home, I was able to let my hair down and feel the accumulated stress in my body. > >Today we sat and meditated for a while. We talked about regaining our spirit during the next three weeks that he has off before resuming chemo once again. We have been violated by a society that values knowledge above spirit and answers above the process of questioning. It is time for us to ride the whale back into the sea. > >I feel so alone in all of this. The past three years since Bob's diagnosis have been difficult. But it cannot be otherwise. This is a spiritual journey as well as a physical one. Only spirit can prove strong enough to endure what lies ahead. > >Vicki Woodyard >http://www.bobwoodyard.com > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 For eternal peace, persistent striving is necessary till enlightenment." Dear Warwick again its me Michael Bindel thats the way I lived live and will live be embraced michael bindel >"Warwick Wakefield" > > >Re: Reentering the Sea >Thu, 5 Feb 2004 10:34:31 +1100 > > - > skiplaurel > > Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:49 AM > Reentering the Sea > > > Reentering the Sea > > If you have seen the movie, Whalerider, you know that there is a scene where the young girl climbs upon the back of a beached whale and rides it back into the sea. "I am not afraid to die," she says (or words to that effect). As she goes underwater, you fear that she will, but she survives and becomes the leader of her tribe. ("The true you emerges when there is no attempt to prove anything to anyone." Vernon Kitabu Turner, Soul Sword.) > > We are a puny bunch of people these days, are we not? Riding whales into the oceanic depths is only something that people do in the movies. I have a hard time driving in traffic. But this story moved me. It is a call to spiritual warriorship. Turner writes compellingly about warriorship. "There are many ways to flow with the wind. One way is to trust yourself to be yourself." > > Spirituality is that in us which is undivided; the mind cannot go beyond its element. We must trust the process of surrender if we are to go beneath the waves of sorrow and resurface with our spirit intact. I have only begun to make this journey of riding my soul back to its native home. My mind encourages me to postpone the journey. To stay and argue with people about rules and regulations, about insurance and appointments shown on the calendar. I do not have to die to honor these commitments. I can continue living a plastic life, compartmentalized and sane. But underneath the sea rages. > > I have a cd by Herding Cats that I like. There is a line in one song about "where the black waters roll." I can almost physically feel these black waters in my body as the song plays. I know these waters well (don't we all?) Where is our courage on any given day? Bob had to get five vials of blood drawn yesterday when he exited the trial drug study that he was on. The nurse who was drawing his blood had great difficulity in getting enough blood to come out. There were four people watching and we were all cringing. I asked him twice if he was okay, and he said that he was. Once we got home, I was able to let my hair down and feel the accumulated stress in my body. > > Today we sat and meditated for a while. We talked about regaining our spirit during the next three weeks that he has off before resuming chemo once again. We have been violated by a society that values knowledge above spirit and answers above the process of questioning. It is time for us to ride the whale back into the sea. > > I feel so alone in all of this. The past three years since Bob's diagnosis have been difficult. But it cannot be otherwise. This is a spiritual journey as well as a physical one. Only spirit can prove strong enough to endure what lies ahead. > > Vicki Woodyard > Hullo Vicki, > > I have just finished reading your note and I think I can well-imagine the situation that you are in, and I feel for you. > > But I want to ask you a very simple question "Do you know, have you at least had a glimpse of, who you really are?" > > You might find the question insulting, and if so, so be it. Read no further and delete this message. > > But I don't intend any insult at all. > > When I saw who I really am it was a surprise - I had heard about this "who you really are" business for years, but until I saw for myself it meant nothing. > > It is not difficult. It is not rocket science. I have been able to show it to others. And if you are interested, I might be able to guide you to see it. > > Seeing who you really are is not the same as "being enlightened", whatever that might be. > > It is not the same as being "self-realized", whatever that might be. > It is not the same as an "end to all suffering". > > But it is the first step. And once you've seen it it is yours. You may lose sight of it, temporarily, but it will always return. > As Atmananda says, in Atma-Darshan, "This is not the final word. Work lies ahead to remove the sense of separateness." > > But it is the first and necessary step. And once you have seen this, things that are said by the Advaita sages become understandable in a way which they previously were not. > > As Atmananda says a few pages on, "For eternal peace, persistent striving is necessary till enlightenment." > > Vicki, some of us here are taking things easy, pretty sure that everything has been more-or-less figured out. > I fit into the "constant striving category." > > And if you are interested in my offer regarding seeing "who one really is", let me know. > > Much love > > Warwick > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 - MICHAEL BINDEL To: Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:03 PMRe: Reentering the SeaFor eternal peace, persistent striving is necessary till enlightenment."Dear Warwick again its me Michael Bindelthats the way I lived live and will livebe embracedmichael bindel Michael, how generous and giving you are. You have helped me see, just now, that one cannot always be knowledgeable, much less wise, but it is always possible to be generous. Thank you. Much love Warwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear Warwick, :::::))))))))))))))))) michael bindel >"Warwick Wakefield" > > >Re: Reentering the Sea >Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:40:49 +1100 > > >- >MICHAEL BINDEL > >Thursday, February 05, 2004 6:03 PM >Re: Reentering the Sea > > >For eternal peace, persistent striving is necessary till enlightenment." >Dear Warwick >again its me Michael Bindel > >thats the way I lived live and will live >be embraced >michael bindel > > >Michael, > >how generous and giving you are. > >You have helped me see, just now, that one cannot always be knowledgeable, much less wise, >but it is always possible to be generous. > >Thank you. > >Much love > >Warwick > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 --- Warwick Wakefield <formandsubstance wrote: > , "Warwick Wakefield" <formandsubstance@t...> wrote: > > Michael, > > how generous and giving you are. > > You have helped me see, just now, that one cannot always be knowledgeable, much less wise, > but it is always possible to be generous. > > Thank you. > > Much love > > Warwick ***************************** That is beautiful Warwick. Thanks for sharing. Too many words are sometimes just too many words. But one act of kindness, a sweet smile, or acknowledgement of another can have a profound effect. Grateful for all your company. Love to all Harsha ===== /join Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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