Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 re:"In my most humblest opinion we should welcome him with his doubts and discuss with him in total humility and leave the rest to Eswara!" (A tamasik option is not to react at all!-would be my choice. ~ jim) Bhuvan, yes I agree and would be interested in how you might discuss his article to help him understand Ramana or see the errors in his understanding of Ramana's teachings or Ramana personaly. I really would like to have you start the discussion by examining Leonard's article line by line to reveal the errors there in. What do you say? Are you up to examining Leonard's artilce for a totally humble discussion? I really hope so - for the sake of Leonard and all those at this forum who have chosen to just put down the article and turn their backs on it - which, as you pointed out, is one way to deal with Leonard. Bhuvan, looking forward to your discussion of Leonards article...... best, jim , "bhuvan eswar chilukuri" <bhuvaneswarc@r...> wrote: > Dear Seer Alan Larus, > > When someone does not like another's views,there are many options. > > A tamasik option is not to react at all! > A rajasik option is to fight it out and establish your view! > A sattvik option is to love him and show him the truth! > > A NON - Pravrutthi Option is best known to Ramana Maharshi!!! > > That reminds me of an incident with my master Sri Adi Sankara Bhagavatpujyapada: > > A ka:pa:lika wanted to kill him to offer a human sacrifice.My Lord and My Ocean of Mercy advised him to come and kill him when his disciples were not around.Fortunately for us the kapalika went when his disciple was watching my Master.When the Kapalika came to kill him, he killed him in stead!The ways of God are best known to God! > > In my most humblest opinion we should welcome him with his doubts and discuss with him in total humility and leave the rest to Eswara! > > I am sure as he follows the photos sent by you he will learn more about Ramana Maharshi. It is only such rebels who become unparallelled converts. > > Each runs his karmik race alone along with others. > > > Love is the actual form of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Yours in Sri Sankara Bhagavatpujyapada's love, > > Chilukuri Bhuvaneswar > > On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 Al Larus wrote : > > > > >---- Original Message ----- > > >jim rich > > > > > >Friday, February 06, 2004 10:08 PM > > > Re: Ramana Maharshi - Toni-Prarabda > > > > > > > Let's suppose some mean, ignorant, bitter, foolish person does take a > > > shot at Ramana on this wide open public forum. Are we not big > > > enough, wise enough, strong enough, cool enough, enlightened enough, > > > mature enough, etc. to handle it - ignore it - not take it > > > personally - laugh it off - inteligently challenge it - or respond to > > > such a "shot" as our beloved teacher, Ramana, might. How do you > > > think Ramana himself would have responded to Leonard's article? > > > Would Ramana have come back at the author with insulting accusations > > > and outrage? The Ramana I believe in would most likely have laughed > > > it off and/or offered clarification of the author's misconceptions, > > > in my humble opinion. I am not the least bit worried or concerned > > > with someone taking shots at Ramana or anyone in this wide open > > > public forum (what's to prevent it?) whereas I am concerned about how > > > I will react to some shot - hopefully as my teacher would have > > > reacted. At least I can ask myself "Who is reacting to this shot?" > > > and hopefully the answer will be the FELT reality of me - a non- > > > person who is not at all affected by shots or anything else. Re: > > > Ramesh Balsekar: "who cares?" Let 'em come - who cares? Yes, who > > > cares? - is it a little personal, touchy, worried, angry, disturbed, > > > upset, outraged, offended egoic personal me or Prarabda? Everything > > > is Prarabda anyway including "shots" and those who take them, in my > > > opinion. > > > > > >We are what we are. > > > > > > > >Personally I would like to create a little bit of controversy > >but so far I have failed to do so : ) > > > > > >I did read a comment somewhere on an 'incident' with Paul Brunton, not mentioning what it was, > >and I found something here: > >Alanfrom ( I supply the link as it is a reference to the source within a week at least )http://www.sentient.org/maharshi/novdec95.htm > > Bhagavan's brother had to endure considerable criticism while > >managing the ashram. Even so, there is little doubt that Bhagavan used him > >as his instrument. When Niranjanananda Swami felt an inner prompting from > >Bhagavan, he confidently acted on it. The following may be an example of > >one such occasion. > > > > It is widely known that Paul Brunton's book, A Search in Secret > >India, did much to make known to the world that the Maharshi, a unique sage > >of this century, was living inTiruvannamalai. Brunton was a professional > >writer and in those days wherever he would go he would often be seen taking > >notes on bits of paper. While in the Old Hall listening to questions put to > >Bhagavan and his replies, he would be eagerly taking notes. After the > >success of A Search in Secret India, he began writing many other books in > >which he would sometimes adopt the Maharshi's teachings without giving due > >acknowledgment. When the ashram authorities realized this they decided to > >stop him from taking notes in the hall. > > > > One day in 1939, Brunton was sitting next to me taking notes as > >usual when Niranjanananda Swami boldly walked into the hall, stood next to > >Bhagavan and told Munagala Venkataramiah to tell Brunton in English that he > >is no longer permitted to take notes while sitting before Bhagavan. Brunton > >was told accordingly. Brunton looked at Venkataramiah and said, "Is this > >also Bhagavan's view?" Venkataramiah did not reply to this question and > >Bhagavan who was quietly sitting there didn't say a word either. A few > >tense moments passed. Then Brunton stood up and left the hall. That was the > >last time he took notes in the hall, and that was also when Brunton began > >distancing himself from the ashram. > > > > It was very unusual to see the Sarvadhikari appear so bold and > >authoritative before the Maharshi. He must have felt that this exploitation > >should stop and was confident that Bhagavan was behind him. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2004 Report Share Posted February 7, 2004 , "jim rich" <jimnirene@a...> wrote: > re:"In my most humblest opinion we should welcome him with his doubts > and discuss with him in total humility and leave the rest to > Eswara!" > > (A tamasik option is not to react at all!-would be my choice. ~ jim) > > > Bhuvan, yes I agree and would be interested in how you might discuss > his article to help him understand Ramana or see the errors in his Namaste, I don't mind discussing views, but 'touting', isn't the function of this forum...........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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