On the contrary Entering the endless void...what is this?

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Was it once a thruth, now a mist?

Who feeds the root caught in the weeds?

Which sword

is cutting loose?

To recall

or fall

(if it is utter darkness : )

By which light can it be observed?

Alan

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MICHAEL BINDEL

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:05 AM

RE: Re: Entering the endless void...what is this?

Dear Jim and TT

Jim please be on guard really

what Jim described is so wonderful and a good very good stepping stone.....

what you are telling him be carefull might be your "wonderful illusion"

why

because living the state you described for TT excludes "automatically" that what you stated

of course I might be wrong but I feel it thru and thru that its true

Please Jim be not offended by what I stated

michael just wanted to assist TT

what he experienced is great and of course a "beginning"

b u t remembering the taste of what he experienced might help him a

lot at least that is the way it worked and works with michael

great to hear from both of you

michael bindel

>"jim rich"

> >To:

> Re:

Entering the endless void...what is this? >Wed, 18 Feb 2004

07:45:08 -0000 > >Hi T.T.: > > >--- In

, "charlesdecapo" > wrote: > > Namaste,

> > > > Since I first came across the teachings of Ramana Maharshi, >

> Nisargadatta and other great Advaita teachers...I've been > >

having this weird experience often. Very often in meditation or in >a

> > sleep I wake up into this state of emptiness...it's kind of void

>with > > full of life and energy. It's very hard to describe this...

> > ...This experience of the void sometimes even stays in the

>background > > in the waking state...it's kind of inner stillness

and peace. > >It's just my opinion of your experience but, it sounds

to me like >you, a separate egoic imagined person, are comming into

contact with >your real self: void, stillness, peace, emptiness, life

& energy, >etc. Seen from the perspective of a "person" your real

self >seems/feels like you describe. The key to all those

experiences is >to eventually be and stay as the void, emptiness,

etc. while viewing >your personal false self as something other than

& separate from >you. I'd guess you are very close to making the

magic transition >from a limited, littel person to the thing you are

noticing and >experiencing which is you yourself and not that little

separate false >self you've believeed in since early childhood. > > >

> Sometimes it's a very intense experience...Thoughts usually subside

> > completely for a moment...or slows down and stays on the surface.

> > It seems that I can't produce this state with my own effort. > >

It comes and goes on it's own...When it's not so intense I sometimes

> > might see this spiraling circle of golden yellow light inside my

> > head..? > >It may not be very long now when you will become the

thing you are >describing to us and realize that THAT is the real you

while the >person/ego/individual who is now seeing all these things is

not you - >never was - and not even real! It will be a wonderful

event when you >become yourself again instead of the little person

you now think you >are who is having interesting experiences. >

>blessings, > >jim > > > >

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