Intelligence, Awareness and Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism

[Guest guest]

Namaste All,

 

Let me head some stuff off at the pass. Let us start with vndists-

what are they? Perhaps they are us.

IMO a Vndist is somebody who understands non dualism from a mental

and intelligence point of view as opposed to awareness. They talk

the talk, about all being one, the inner Self and no 'I' etc etc.

Kind of a bit like a 150 lb parrot with a large vocab. They may even

sound spiritual and quote this sage and that, and this philosopher

and that. They otherwise probably live normal lives drinking

alcohol, eating meat etc etc.

 

So what is the difference between them and a spiritual

seeker/Sadhaka? A spiritual seeker tries to purify their mind

especially their intellect, they try to practise Ahimsa, which is

probably the prime requisite. The are Sadhakas and perform a Sadhana

understanding full well that knowing what a King is doesn't make one

a King. They are not given to drinking alcohol to any great extent,

they don't eat meat for that violates Ahimsa and being a vegetarian

is an imperative in any kind of yoga. They many combine this with

Bhakti or Devotion or they take the Jnani path of Sankara or Ramana.

They actually walk the walk. Some may take the Raja/Meditation path

and others may take the path of Service work karma. The one thing

all these yogas have is that they walk the walk and not just talk

the talk.

 

A genius may be a vndist but it is still only the mind and normal

intelligence speaking. A lower IQ but with a more purified

vijnanamayakosa is more aware and more spiritually moving.

 

IMO the path of Moksha requires Ahimsa as the prime requiste,m so if

one is a meat eater, I don't know where they are but they are not on

the path. They may be at the gate though. As Ramana says a certain

amount of awareness is necessary to practise 'Who am I?'. Maharaj

says only 1 in 10 million understand non duality from an

intellectual view never mind awareness..........ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor Sufis. Poor Christian

mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta. All not on the path.

Ben.

-

Tony OClery

Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:12 AM

Intelligence, Awareness and Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism

Namaste All,Let me head some stuff off at the pass. Let us start with

vndists-what are they? Perhaps they are us.IMO a Vndist is somebody

who understands non dualism from a mental and intelligence point of

view as opposed to awareness. They talk the talk, about all being

one, the inner Self and no 'I' etc etc. Kind of a bit like a 150 lb

parrot with a large vocab. They may even sound spiritual and quote

this sage and that, and this philosopher and that. They otherwise

probably live normal lives drinking alcohol, eating meat etc etc.So

what is the difference between them and a spiritual seeker/Sadhaka? A

spiritual seeker tries to purify their mind especially their

intellect, they try to practise Ahimsa, which is probably the prime

requisite. The are Sadhakas and perform a Sadhana understanding full

well that knowing what a King is doesn't make one a King. They are

not given to drinking alcohol to any great extent, they don't eat

meat for that violates Ahimsa and being a vegetarian is an imperative

in any kind of yoga. They many combine this with Bhakti or Devotion or

they take the Jnani path of Sankara or Ramana. They actually walk the

walk. Some may take the Raja/Meditation path and others may take the

path of Service work karma. The one thing all these yogas have is

that they walk the walk and not just talk the talk.A genius may be a

vndist but it is still only the mind and normal intelligence

speaking. A lower IQ but with a more purified vijnanamayakosa is more

aware and more spiritually moving.IMO the path of Moksha requires

Ahimsa as the prime requiste,m so if one is a meat eater, I don't

know where they are but they are not on the path. They may be at the

gate though. As Ramana says a certain amount of awareness is

necessary to practise 'Who am I?'. Maharaj says only 1 in 10 million

understand non duality from an intellectual view never mind

awareness..........ONS..Tony./join

"Love itself is

the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam"

by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

, "Tony OClery"

<aoclery> wrote:

> Namaste All,

>

> Let me head some stuff off at the pass. Let us start with

vndists-

> what are they? Perhaps they are us.

> IMO a Vndist is somebody who understands non dualism from

a mental

> and intelligence point of view as opposed to awareness. They

talk

> the talk, about all being one, the inner Self and no 'I' etc etc.

> Kind of a bit like a 150 lb parrot with a large vocab. They may

even

> sound spiritual and quote this sage and that, and this

philosopher

> and that. They otherwise probably live normal lives drinking

> alcohol, eating meat etc etc.

>

> So what is the difference between them and a spiritual

> seeker/Sadhaka? A spiritual seeker tries to purify their mind

> especially their intellect, they try to practise Ahimsa, which is

> probably the prime requisite. The are Sadhakas and perform a

Sadhana

> understanding full well that knowing what a King is doesn't

make one

> a King. They are not given to drinking alcohol to any great

extent,

> they don't eat meat for that violates Ahimsa and being a

vegetarian

> is an imperative in any kind of yoga. They many combine this

with

> Bhakti or Devotion or they take the Jnani path of Sankara or

Ramana.

> They actually walk the walk. Some may take the

Raja/Meditation path

> and others may take the path of Service work karma. The one

thing

> all these yogas have is that they walk the walk and not just talk

> the talk.

>

> A genius may be a vndist but it is still only the mind and normal

> intelligence speaking. A lower IQ but with a more purified

> vijnanamayakosa is more aware and more spiritually moving.

>

> IMO the path of Moksha requires Ahimsa as the prime

requiste,m so if

> one is a meat eater, I don't know where they are but they are

not on

> the path. They may be at the gate though. As Ramana says a

certain

> amount of awareness is necessary to practise 'Who am I?'.

Maharaj

> says only 1 in 10 million understand non duality from an

> intellectual view never mind awareness..........ONS..Tony.

 

========================

 

Let me pass some stuff off at the head.

 

Yikes! Millions of tiny whos dying with each breath. We're all out

of luck if this strick rule is some sort of prerequisite.

 

If the branch doesn't bend in the wind, it breaks.

 

There is no cause, no absolutes in the unfathomable.

 

))))))But then again, I may be judged by some to be only talking

and not walking.

 

Ahimsa is certainly well and good and recommended but.....I

would never limit that which has none or divide by imaginary line

that which is obviously whole.

 

But the mind, she loves to.

~Shawn

[Guest guest]

Yes,

 

Poor Ramakrishna, poor Vivekananda, poor, poor

persons. No one measures up to Sri Tonyjis standards.

 

Warmest regards,

 

michael

 

--- Ben Hassine <ben.hassine wrote:

> So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor

> Sufis. Poor Christian mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor

> Nisargadatta. All not on the path.

>

> Ben.

> -

> Tony OClery

>

> Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:12 AM

> Intelligence, Awareness

> and Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism

>

>

> Namaste All,

 

 

SNIP

>

> IMO the path of Moksha requires Ahimsa as the

> prime requiste,m so if

> one is a meat eater, I don't know where they are

> but they are not on

> the path. They may be at the gate though. As

> Ramana says a certain

> amount of awareness is necessary to practise 'Who

> am I?'. Maharaj

> says only 1 in 10 million understand non duality

> from an

> intellectual view never mind

> awareness..........ONS..Tony.

>

>

>

>

> /join

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>

>

>

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x>

wrote:

> So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor Sufis. Poor

Christian mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta. All not on the

path.

>

> Ben.

 

 

Namaste,

 

Sufis such as Rumi, Mansour, Ibn el Arabi, Din Attar etc etc wrote a

lot about ecstasy,whether they were Muktas is another question, they

talked a lot about 'States'.

Again I don't know about the Christian Mystics either, there are

different levels of samadhi. Theresa Neuman didn't eat at all lived

on prana only.

Jesus is never known to have eaten meat, the greek word translated

as meat just means food, as it does in Scotland today.

Nisargadatta I don't know about whether he was a Mukta or not.

One cannot condone the slaughter of another being and still be on

the path, Tarika.

 

Ramana, Buddha etc advised vegetarianims and non violence, mental

gymnastics from vndists doesn't change that.

 

The problem is that if a person doesn't have a highly developed

vijnanamaykosa then they don't understand ahimsa, no matter how

intelligent and literate they are.......That's my point..murder

doesn't lead to moksha.........ONS..Tony

[Guest guest]

, "Shawn Hair" <shawn@w...>

wrote:

> , "Tony OClery"

> <aoclery> wrote:

> > Namaste All,

> >

> > A genius may be a vndist but it is still only the mind and

normal

> > intelligence speaking. A lower IQ but with a more purified

> > vijnanamayakosa is more aware and more spiritually moving.

> >

> > IMO the path of Moksha requires Ahimsa as the prime

> requiste,m so if

> > one is a meat eater, I don't know where they are but they are

> not on

> > the path. They may be at the gate though. As Ramana says a

> certain

> > amount of awareness is necessary to practise 'Who am I?'.

> Maharaj

> > says only 1 in 10 million understand non duality from an

> > intellectual view never mind awareness..........ONS..Tony.

>

> ========================

>

> Let me pass some stuff off at the head.

>

> Yikes! Millions of tiny whos dying with each breath. We're all out

> of luck if this strick rule is some sort of prerequisite.

>

> If the branch doesn't bend in the wind, it breaks.

>

> There is no cause, no absolutes in the unfathomable.

>

> ))))))But then again, I may be judged by some to be only talking

> and not walking.

>

> Ahimsa is certainly well and good and recommended but.....I

> would never limit that which has none or divide by imaginary line

> that which is obviously whole.

>

> But the mind, she loves to.

> ~Shawn

 

Namaste,

 

This is vndism, just because one kills with every breath

unconsciously one shouldn't consciously kill larger animals. One has

to try. It is necessary to purify the buddhi-vijnanmayakosa to

really understand this and make progress.

 

Without a purified Buddhi one is living mostly in the manomayakosa

which can be a genius but not aware..........ONS..Tony

[Guest guest]

Ben Hassine wrote:

> So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor Sufis. Poor Christian

> mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta. All not on the path.

>

> Ben.

 

 

Path or no path, enough has been said on man's teeth, similar to those

of other omnivores like pigs, bears and dogs no?

 

An article on the issue:

argvegans/message/120

[Guest guest]

, Michael Bowes

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> Yes,

>

> Poor Ramakrishna, poor Vivekananda, poor, poor

> persons. No one measures up to Sri Tonyjis standards.

>

> Warmest regards,

>

> michael

\

 

Namaste,

 

Actually it took me about eleven months to become a vegetarian after

I started my meditation and spiritual search. It took me three

months to get off alcohol, as an alcoholic, April 1986, then to

giving up meat in November 1986.

 

I gave up alcohol because I was an alcoholic and meditation replaced

the need.

I gave up eating meat after reading much Vedanta and Sages, who had

the common theme, Ahimsa, so it was a natural progression.

 

ONS....Tony

[Guest guest]

, ecirada <ecirada> wrote:

> Ben Hassine wrote:

>

> > So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor Sufis. Poor

Christian

> > mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta. All not on the path.

> >

> > Ben.

>

>

> Path or no path, enough has been said on man's teeth, similar to

those

> of other omnivores like pigs, bears and dogs no?

>

> An article on the issue:

> argvegans/message/120

 

Namaste,

 

An excellent link.

But as we have noted, man bears the closest anatomical resemblance to

the anthropoid ape (the very term "anthropoid" meaning

literally "man-

like"), whose natural diet is composed of fresh fruits, nuts, seeds,

and green shoots. Our hands are made perfectly for gathering this

type of food-and without any artificial implements whatever-and bear

no resemblance to the hooves of the grazing animals or the "paws 'n'

claws" of the carnivores.

 

Humans occupy a higher ape body!!!

However this info will be understood by those who have a higher

awareness and compassion and be rejected by the mental

vndists.....ONS..Tony

[Guest guest]

-

Tony OClery

Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:16 PM

Re: Intelligence, Awareness and Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism

, Michael Bowes

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:> Yes,> > Poor Ramakrishna, poor

Vivekananda, poor, poor> persons. No one measures up to Sri Tonyjis

standards.> > Warmest regards,> > michael\Namaste,Actually it took me

about eleven months to become a vegetarian after I started my

meditation and spiritual search. It took me three months to get off

alcohol, as an alcoholic, April 1986, then to giving up meat in

November 1986.I gave up alcohol because I was an alcoholic and

meditation replaced the need.I gave up eating meat after reading much

Vedanta and Sages, who had the common theme, Ahimsa, so it was a

natural progression.ONS....How long is it going to take you to stop criticizing all the people

who fail to meet your 'ideas' about what a realized person is like?

Much tougher than anything you've done so far.

Namaste, Sam

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

, Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:

>

> -

> Tony OClery

>

> Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:16 PM

> Re: Intelligence, Awareness and Verbal

Non-Dualism-Vndism

>

>

> , Michael Bowes

> <rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> > Yes,

> >

> > Poor Ramakrishna, poor Vivekananda, poor, poor

> > persons. No one measures up to Sri Tonyjis standards.

> >

> > Warmest regards,

> >

> > michael

> \

>

> Namaste,

>

> Actually it took me about eleven months to become a vegetarian

after

> I started my meditation and spiritual search. It took me three

> months to get off alcohol, as an alcoholic, April 1986, then to

> giving up meat in November 1986.

>

> I gave up alcohol because I was an alcoholic and meditation

replaced

> the need.

> I gave up eating meat after reading much Vedanta and Sages, who

had

> the common theme, Ahimsa, so it was a natural progression.

>

> ONS....> How long is it going to take you to stop criticizing all the

people who fail to meet your 'ideas' about what a realized person is

like? Much tougher than anything you've done so far.

>

> Namaste, Sam

>

Namaste,

 

Yes this is the usual vndist response to deflect thought away from

their own minds. I'm critising no-one but if the cap fits wear it. I

have no ideas about what a realised person is, otherwise I wouldn't

say I don't know what nisargadatta was etc. I know that some

realised people eat whatever is in their begging bowl also, however

that is a realised person. I became a vege on reading what was

necessary in the teachings of sages like Ramana,,,take it up with

them. This is only a discussion group for diversion.......ONS..Tony

[Guest guest]

-

Tony OClery

Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:32 PM

Re: Intelligence, Awareness and Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism

, Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:>

> - > Tony OClery > To:

> Thursday, February 19, 2004

6:16 PM> Re: Intelligence, Awareness and

Verbal Non-Dualism-Vndism> > > --- In

, Michael Bowes >

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:> > Yes,> > > > Poor Ramakrishna,

poor Vivekananda, poor, poor> > persons. No one measures up to Sri

Tonyjis standards.> > > > Warmest regards,> > > > michael>

\> > Namaste,> > Actually it took me about eleven months to

become a vegetarian after > I started my meditation and spiritual

search. It took me three > months to get off alcohol, as an

alcoholic, April 1986, then to > giving up meat in November 1986.>

> I gave up alcohol because I was an alcoholic and meditation

replaced > the need.> I gave up eating meat after reading much

Vedanta and Sages, who had > the common theme, Ahimsa, so it was a

natural progression.> > ONS....Tony> How long is it going to take

you to stop criticizing all the people who fail to meet your 'ideas'

about what a realized person is like? Much tougher than anything

you've done so far.> > Namaste, Sam>Namaste,Yes this is the usual

vndist response to deflect thought away from their own minds. I'm

critising no-one but if the cap fits wear it. I have no ideas about

what a realised person is, otherwise I wouldn't say I don't know what

nisargadatta was etc. I know that some realised people eat whatever is

in their begging bowl also, however that is a realised person. I

became a vege on reading what was necessary in the teachings of sages

like Ramana,,,take it up with them. This is only a discussion group

for diversion.......ONS..If you say so Tony..

I have no desire to have anything diverted from my 'own mind'..

Over and over again you say: so and so can't be realized because of

this, or because of that, haven't you noticed?

This has been pointed out to you a number of times by all sorts of people.

If you find this all so 'diverting' then go ahead, but I think some

silent reflection might be more useful for you.

Awaiting your next 'riposte'..

Sam

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

--- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

.. This is only a discussion group for

> diversion.......ONS..Tony

******************************

Thanks Tony. We do our best to entertain.

 

It's all magic.

 

By the way, how many people would stay if we charged

50 dollars a year?

 

I am trying to raise money. All good ideas

appreciated.

 

Joyce suggested a sangha Calendar.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

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, Harsha

<harshaimtm> wrote:

> --- Tony OClery <aoclery> wrote:

> . This is only a discussion group for

> > diversion.......ONS..Tony

> ******************************

> Thanks Tony. We do our best to entertain.

>

> It's all magic.

>

> By the way, how many people would stay if we charged

> 50 dollars a year?

>

> I am trying to raise money. All good ideas

> appreciated.

>

> Joyce suggested a sangha Calendar.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

 

 

Harsha,

 

I'm sorry, if I touch money, then I couldn't possibly be on the path

so......

 

I could give you bananas, though!

A sangha center would be good, where are most of you? Where

would it be?

love,

Shawn

[Guest guest]

Tony OClery wrote:

>, ecirada <ecirada> wrote:

>

>

>>Ben Hassine wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor Sufis. Poor

>>>

>>>

>Christian

>

>

>>>mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta. All not on the path.

>>>

>>>Ben.

>>>

>>>

>>Path or no path, enough has been said on man's teeth, similar to

>>

>>

>those

>

>

>>of other omnivores like pigs, bears and dogs no?

>>

>>An article on the issue:

>>argvegans/message/120

>>

>>

>

>Namaste,

>

>An excellent link.

>But as we have noted, man bears the closest anatomical resemblance to

>the anthropoid ape (the very term "anthropoid" meaning

>literally "man-

>like"), whose natural diet is composed of fresh fruits, nuts, seeds,

>and green shoots. Our hands are made perfectly for gathering this

>type of food-and without any artificial implements whatever-and bear

>no resemblance to the hooves of the grazing animals or the "paws 'n'

>claws" of the carnivores.

>

>Humans occupy a higher ape body!!!

>However this info will be understood by those who have a higher

>awareness and compassion and be rejected by the mental

>vndists.....ONS..>

>

 

Hi Tony,

 

Observation of a creature's sensory equipment also gives an indication

of what it is supposed to eat. Several birds can see in infrared, so

can see a prey despite its protective coloring. Other predators are

equipped with very sensitive eyes so they can see preys when for

humans, it seems dark. Such night-vision comes at the cost of color

vision. Apes and man have color vision in common, so ripe fruits (red,

yellow, blue) can easily be spotted, hanging in green trees or shrubs.

Most children seeing a furry animal like a rabbit, a puppy or a kitten,

show the tendency of wanting to pet it, not to put their teeth into it.

Without chemical treatment, meat soon starts to get brown and smelly. So

it gets treated with chemicals like sulfite, in order to keep a reddish

color. The smell is another indicator, the response to the fragrance of

strawberries, mangoes, raspberries is well known. Still another

indicator, prey animals don't have smelly excrements as that would put

them in danger. Apart from that, what comes out smelly, has to be so

"inside" and the chemicals causing the smell are without exception,

poisonous.

 

Peace,

Jan

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony,

 

--- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

> , "Ben Hassine"

> <ben.hassine@x>

> wrote:

> > So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor

> Sufis. Poor

> Christian mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta.

> All not on the

> path.

> >

> > Ben.

>

>

> Namaste,

SNIP

> The problem is that if a person doesn't have a

> highly developed

> vijnanamaykosa then they don't understand ahimsa, no

> matter how

> intelligent and literate they are.......That's my

> point..murder

> doesn't lead to moksha.........ONS..>

>

Is there really any death Tonyji? And if there is,

who or what ordained it?

 

michael

[Guest guest]

--- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

> , Michael Bowes

>

> <rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> > Yes,

> >

> > Poor Ramakrishna, poor Vivekananda, poor, poor

> > persons. No one measures up to Sri Tonyjis

> standards.

> >

> > Warmest regards,

> >

> > michael

> \

>

> Namaste,

>

> Actually it took me about eleven months to become a

> vegetarian after

> I started my meditation and spiritual search. It

> took me three

> months to get off alcohol, as an alcoholic, April

> 1986, then to

> giving up meat in November 1986.

>

> I gave up alcohol because I was an alcoholic and

> meditation replaced

> the need.

> I gave up eating meat after reading much Vedanta and

> Sages, who had

> the common theme, Ahimsa, so it was a natural

> progression.

>

> ONS....>

>

 

I hope that you are happier and healthier because of

your actions. But to me the SELF is everything and

there is nothing but SELF. I don't care if a person

drinks, or eats or what they drink and eat. To me

there is nothing but SELF. SELF is the only reality.

I don't categorize and pigeonhole who's who and what's

what.

 

Love ya man,

 

michael

[Guest guest]

, Micha> >

> >

>

> I hope that you are happier and healthier because of

> your actions. But to me the SELF is everything and

> there is nothing but SELF. I don't care if a person

> drinks, or eats or what they drink and eat. To me

> there is nothing but SELF. SELF is the only reality.

> I don't categorize and pigeonhole who's who and what's

> what.

>

> Love ya man,

>

> michael

 

Namaste M,

 

You are talking vndism.........ONS..Tony

[Guest guest]

Don't know much

but I know I love you

that may be all I need to know

Blessings to Eckhardt Tolle

the most realized being within this love

Blessings to the most realized being within this love

Blessings to Ramana

the most realized being within this love

Blessings to all the beings everywhere

the most realized beings within this love

 

Love to you Ramana, love to you Papaji, love to you

Tonyji, I'd like to see you before Papaji in satsang.

 

--- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

> , "Ben Hassine"

> <ben.hassine@x>

> wrote:

> > So all non-vegetarians are not on the path? Poor

> Sufis. Poor

> Christian mystics. Poor Jesus. Poor Nisargadatta.

> All not on the

> path.

> >

> > Ben.

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> Sufis such as Rumi, Mansour, Ibn el Arabi, Din Attar

> etc etc wrote a

> lot about ecstasy,whether they were Muktas is

> another question, they

> talked a lot about 'States'.

> Again I don't know about the Christian Mystics

> either, there are

> different levels of samadhi. Theresa Neuman didn't

> eat at all lived

> on prana only.

> Jesus is never known to have eaten meat, the greek

> word translated

> as meat just means food, as it does in Scotland

> today.

> Nisargadatta I don't know about whether he was a

> Mukta or not.

> One cannot condone the slaughter of another being

> and still be on

> the path, Tarika.

>

> Ramana, Buddha etc advised vegetarianims and non

> violence, mental

> gymnastics from vndists doesn't change that.

>

> The problem is that if a person doesn't have a

> highly developed

> vijnanamaykosa then they don't understand ahimsa, no

> matter how

> intelligent and literate they are.......That's my

> point..murder

> doesn't lead to moksha.........ONS..>

>

>

> /join

>

>

>

>

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

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[Guest guest]

, Harsha <harshaimtm>

wrote:

> --- Tony OClery <aoclery> wrote:

> . This is only a discussion group for

> > diversion.......ONS..Tony

> ******************************

> Thanks Tony. We do our best to entertain.

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> It's all magic.

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> By the way, how many people would stay if we charged

> 50 dollars a year?

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> I am trying to raise money. All good ideas

> appreciated.

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> Joyce suggested a sangha Calendar.

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> Love to all

> Harsha

 

Namaste Harsha,

 

I mean entertainment in the way JK said on his death bed. Everything

in the mind is diversion anyway. I doubt whether people would pay to

receive what they perceive to be insults from me. Unless they were

Arabs, they have the most amusing insults in the world and I don't

just mean Mullah Nasruddin.

 

Like the Sufis perhaps my posts make sense only to the subconscious

of some.........ONS..Tony