Truth and Liberation

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Dear Friends,

 

Ramana said that the SELF is known to all. And truth

is also known to all. It is happening around all of

us constantly. How can IT be unknown. The good and

the bad, the beautiful and the ugly, the

whatchamacalit?, is known to all.

 

There's no problem until you invent a problem.

Limitations are problems. When there's no limitation,

then there's no problem. 'Cause, how can the

unlimited have a problem? Problems begin to happen

only when ya decide to call the whatchamacalit?

something. When people try to define the

whatchamacalit? they then limit their own experience

of it, and then they got problems.

 

Tying to define life and trying to define behavior,

and trying to determine what is acceptable and what is

unacceptable is an exercise that builds "limitation".

 

Accepting LIFE as it is, seeing LIFE as it is in all

its aspects and not shrinking from it, that is

liberation.

 

Love,

 

michael

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Michael wrote

Dear Friends,Ramana said that the SELF is known to all. And truthis

also known to all. It is happening around all ofus constantly. How

can IT be unknown. The good andthe bad, the beautiful and the ugly,

thewhatchamacalit?, is known to all.There's no problem until you

invent a problem. Limitations are problems. When there's no

limitation,then there's no problem. 'Cause, how can theunlimited

have a problem? Problems begin to happenonly when ya decide to call

the whatchamacalit?something. When people try to define

thewhatchamacalit? they then limit their own experienceof it, and

then they got problems.Tying to define life and trying to define

behavior,and trying to determine what is acceptable and what

isunacceptable is an exercise that builds "limitation".Accepting LIFE

as it is, seeing LIFE as it is in allits aspects and not shrinking

from it, that isliberation.Love,michaelNamaste Michael et all.

I am in complete agreement with you Michael.

In the world it is all polarities it canot be otherwise. The sage accepts this completely.

You can only go to "heaven" if!! is allways followed by a concept.

Truth is not a concept but the moment it is spoken of it becomes one.

Ramana and others became enlightened though the grace of God not

though what they did or dident do.

The Budda maintained "You are not the doer" and surely we can all

agree that he was an enlightened being.

It may be argued that if you believe that, you will do nothing. It

just is not so. Your conditioning, DNA, genes, destiny, life itself

will spur you into the appropriate action for you.

 

You must be as a little child according to Jesus. A child has no

concepts and moves asccording to the dictates of life itself. It

lives life to the full. I accept that some children are born into

horendous conditions and life is no fun for them, That is

unfortunately their destiny. Consciousness knowing itself through

that situation too.

 

I am a vegetarian but accept that I am part of the food chain too. Its

the way it is. It can not be otherwise at this exact moment in time.

It may change. The lion may well lie down with the lamb.

 

There is Gods buisness your buisness my buisness. If it is my destiny

to attend only to my buisness thats ok. If my buisness includes

taking a stance on some humaritarian principal or warlike cause for

that matter thats ok. If its my destiny to promote discussion on this

list or to leave it to others to do this then thats fine too. I dont

"mind"

 

Respect and reguards for all

Chris H