Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> wrote: > The real purity is a matter of the Heart. Real purity cannot be measured. Love does not exclude anyone or anything. > > True humility dawns when you forget all about attainment, purity and categories. > > The blazing fire of Love will take care of the rest. > > Yours, > > Ben. > Hi, Ben I agree with you and this is something that can't be known by the ego. Once someone becomes "known" for his/her spirituality, he is already on the way to being severely tested by the powers that be. Because it can't be faked. But what do I know. I am a part of the vast conspiracy to keep judgement/evalution going. Vicki > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.594 / Virus Database: 377 - Release 2/24/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> wrote: > The real purity is a matter of the Heart. Real purity cannot be measured. Love does not exclude anyone or anything. > > True humility dawns when you forget all about attainment, purity and categories. > > The blazing fire of Love will take care of the rest. > > Yours, > > Ben. Namaste, from Ramana Q: having heard this truth, why does not one remain content? A: Because Samskaras (innate mental tendencies) have not been destroyed. Unless the samskaras cease to exist, there will always be doubt and confusion. All efforts are directed to destroying doubt and confusion. To do so their roots must be cut. Their roots are the samskaras. These are rendered ineffective by practice as prescribed by the Guru. The Guru leaves it to the seeker to do this much so that he might himself find out that there is no ignorance. Hearing the truth (Sravana) is the first stage. If the understanding is not firm one has to practise reflection (Manana) and uninterrupted contemplation (Nididhyasana) on it. These two processes scorch the seeds of samskaras so that they are rendered ineffective. Some extraordinary people get unshakable jnana after hearing the truth only once. These are the advanced seekers. Beginners take longer to gain it. from BE AS YOU ARE, David Godman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 - skiplaurel Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:14 PM Re: purity and advanced spirituality , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> wrote:> The real purity is a matter of the Heart. Real purity cannot be measured. Love does not exclude anyone or anything.>> True humility dawns when you forget all about attainment, purity and categories.>> The blazing fire of Love will take care of the rest.>> Yours,>> Ben.>Hi, BenI agree with you and this is something that can't be known by the ego. Once someone becomes "known" for his/her spirituality, he is already on the way to being severely tested by the powers that be. Because it can't be faked. But what do I know. I am a part of the vast conspiracy to keep judgement/evalution going.Vicki It was always very clear that when Love initiates action there is no question of fear in whatever form. The blows you get will hurt, the fear is no more. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.594 / Virus Database: 377 - Release 2/24/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 - Tony OClery Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:15 PM Re: purity and advanced spirituality , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> wrote:> The real purity is a matter of the Heart. Real purity cannot be measured. Love does not exclude anyone or anything.> > True humility dawns when you forget all about attainment, purity and categories.> > The blazing fire of Love will take care of the rest.> > Yours,> > Ben.Namaste, from RamanaQ: having heard this truth, why does not one remain content?A: Because Samskaras (innate mental tendencies) have not been destroyed. Unless the samskaras cease to exist, there will always be doubt and confusion. All efforts are directed to destroying doubt and confusion. To do so their roots must be cut. Their roots are the samskaras. These are rendered ineffective by practice as prescribed by the Guru. The Guru leaves it to the seeker to do this much so that he might himself find out that there is no ignorance. Hearing the truth (Sravana) is the first stage. If the understanding is not firm one has to practise reflection (Manana) and uninterrupted contemplation (Nididhyasana) on it. These two processes scorch the seeds of samskaras so that they are rendered ineffective.Some extraordinary people get unshakable jnana after hearing the truth only once.These are the advanced seekers. Beginners take longer to gain it.from BE AS YOU ARE, David Godman The marvellous bird of sadhana has two wings: jnana and bhakti. In my opinion the bhakti aspect deserves more attention. Bhakti (surrender) is the blazing fire of Love that evaporates all tears, sorrow and doubts. ONS, B. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.594 / Virus Database: 377 - Release 2/24/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> wrote: > > - > Tony OClery > > Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:15 PM > Re: purity and advanced spirituality > > > , "Ben Hassine" <ben.hassine@x> > wrote: > > The real purity is a matter of the Heart. Real purity cannot be > measured. Love does not exclude anyone or anything. > > > > True humility dawns when you forget all about attainment, purity > and categories. > > > > The blazing fire of Love will take care of the rest. > > > > Yours, > > > > Ben. > > Namaste, from Ramana > > Q: having heard this truth, why does not one remain content? > > A: Because Samskaras (innate mental tendencies) have not been > destroyed. > Unless the samskaras cease to exist, there will always be doubt > and confusion. > All efforts are directed to destroying doubt and confusion. To > do so their roots > must be cut. Their roots are the samskaras. These are rendered > ineffective by > practice as prescribed by the Guru. The Guru leaves it to the > seeker to do this > much so that he might himself find out that there is no > ignorance. Hearing the truth > (Sravana) is the first stage. If the understanding is not firm > one has to practise reflection > (Manana) and uninterrupted contemplation (Nididhyasana) on it. > These two processes > scorch the seeds of samskaras so that they are rendered > ineffective. > > Some extraordinary people get unshakable jnana after hearing the > truth only once. > These are the advanced seekers. Beginners take longer to gain it. > > from BE AS YOU ARE, David Godman > > > > The marvellous bird of sadhana has two wings: jnana and bhakti. > In my opinion the bhakti aspect deserves more attention. Bhakti (surrender) is the blazing fire of Love that evaporates all tears, sorrow and doubts. > > ONS, > > B. Namaste, Does that means the bird only flies in circles.........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Namaste,Does that means the bird only flies in circles.........ONS.. :-) Oh well, enough preaching for today ;-) Have to clean the kitchen now... Yours, Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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