Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Namaste, Bhakti Yoga isn't Bhakti until one is not identifiable separately from the beloved. It is about an intense purification by prana, a giving up of everything, combined with Ahimsa. For without Ahimsa there is no Bhakti, how can one for example kill an animal for food knowing that everything is God? and the beloved? One still has to purify the kosas in Bhakti. A good example of Bhakti are the so called 'Hare Krishnas', their identification as Dasas of Krishna is complete........Their purification, japa, and vegetarianism is the logical outcome of Love- -Bhakti, which turns into Prema or a Divine Love not separate from the Sakti..............ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 >Namaste,>Bhakti Yoga isn't Bhakti until one is not identifiable separately >from the beloved. It is about an intense purification by prana, a >giving up of everything, combined with Ahimsa. For without Ahimsa >there is no Bhakti, how can one for example kill an animal for food >knowing that everything is God? and the beloved? One still has to >purify the kosas in Bhakti.>A good example of Bhakti are the so called 'Hare Krishnas', their >identification as Dasas of Krishna is complete........Their >purification, japa, and vegetarianism is the logical outcome of Love->-Bhakti, which turns into Prema or a Divine Love not separate from >the Sakti..............ONS..As far as I know the general use of the word Yoga is used also from where one begins. And there also seems to be a lot of definitions of what Bhakti* is. The way towards realisation of identity can be very different and take a long time. I do not know why the importance of proper discrimination is not expressed more clearly. Why is Vivekanandas book on Bhakti Yoga so thin? : ) When the Eskimos lived in the ice and snow they ate only meat. Here on the rocky islands people arrived with a cow and some sheep. They were able to grow some potatoes and carrots along the shore, but would never have survived without the fish and a little meat. This is also where you will find most Bhakti among the Christians. I am sorry to say some narrow-mindedness as well. It is important with a high protein diet in a cold climate especially for kids and teenagers. Since we live in warmer houses and go south for holidays the need might lessened over time. The right vegetarian diet can be difficult to find up here. Not everybody's digestive system can handle a general northern vegetarian diet and the easy way out is not sufficient. Most "fresh" and expensive vegetables in the shops in the winter are grown under plastic in Spain and are full of poison. I heard a farmer on the radio last week, he was the manager of a farm in Eritrea with 2000 workers. The farming land was so high they did not need pesticides and he claimed Eritrea could feed itself and everybody in Europe. You may be right about the Hare Krishnas, but the few I have met have been rude beggars : ) Alan * Bhakti arises from the root Bhaj, to serve mentally and does not mean material service to God. In the Bhagavadgita Yoj has been used in the sense of material service and Bhaj to mean spiritual service. This arises from jnana yoga signifying the last three components of Yoga viz. concentration (dharana), meditation (dhyana) and spiritual Absorption (Samadhi). The derivative meaning of Bhakti is 'mental action' and Jnana also signifies the same meaning-mental action. (Yoga Sutra of Patanjali by Bengali Baba p. 5). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 , "Al Larus" <eg@k...> wrote: > >Namaste, > > >Bhakti Yoga isn't Bhakti until one is not identifiable separately > >from the beloved. It is about an intense purification by prana, a > >giving up of everything, combined with Ahimsa. For without Ahimsa > >there is no Bhakti, how can one for example kill an animal for food > >knowing that everything is God? and the beloved? One still has to > >purify the kosas in Bhakti. > >A good example of Bhakti are the so called 'Hare Krishnas', their > >identification as Dasas of Krishna is complete........Their > >purification, japa, and vegetarianism is the logical outcome of Love- > >-Bhakti, which turns into Prema or a Divine Love not separate from > >the Sakti..............ONS..Tony > > > As far as I know the general use of the word Yoga is used also from where one begins. > And there also seems to be a lot of definitions of what Bhakti* is. > The way towards realisation of identity can be very different and take a long time. > I do not know why the importance of proper discrimination is not expressed more clearly. > Why is Vivekanandas book on Bhakti Yoga so thin? : ) > > When the Eskimos lived in the ice and snow they ate only meat. > Here on the rocky islands people arrived with a cow and some sheep. > They were able to grow some potatoes and carrots along the shore, > but would never have survived without the fish and a little meat. > This is also where you will find most Bhakti among the Christians. > I am sorry to say some narrow-mindedness as well. > > It is important with a high protein diet in a cold climate especially for kids and teenagers. > Since we live in warmer houses and go south for holidays the need might lessened over time. > The right vegetarian diet can be difficult to find up here. > Not everybody's digestive system can handle a general northern vegetarian diet and the easy way out is not sufficient. > > Most "fresh" and expensive vegetables in the shops in the winter are grown > under plastic in Spain and are full of poison. > > I heard a farmer on the radio last week, he was the manager of a farm in Eritrea with 2000 workers. > The farming land was so high they did not need pesticides and he claimed Eritrea could feed itself and everybody in Europe. > > You may be right about the Hare Krishnas, > but the few I have met have been rude beggars : ) > > > > > Alan Namaste, I live in Canada and have been to our northlands. Inuit and Indians have liquor stores and supermarkets in the arctic! No need to eat meat at all but a habit. Also people who lived in the Andes and Himalayas were vegetarian as well. One has to do one's best, there is sea weed and other plants available etc. The human body is made for vegetarian diet not meat. Supermarkets are everywhere now, or rice, beans, soya etc can be bought in bulk..........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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