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NondualitySalon, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

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NondualitySalon, "Gene Poole"

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> > "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:

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"Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of Jesus"

(Meher Baba)

Meher Baba (February 25, 1894-January 31, 1969) is another example

of

the fact that Eastern and Indian peoples, high and low, have been

aware for a long time that Jesus died in Kashmir, India at a ripe

old

age. It appears to have been common knowledge, especially amongst

religious and literate peoples of the East, and especially before

the

advent of the power of Church Christianity.

 

Unfortunately, this knowledge almost became lost for various

reasons,

not the least of which was outside (Church) interference. For

example, the original teachings of the St. Thomas Christians of

India

(also known as the Kerala Christians), who Western Christians are

fond of pointing to as an "example" that St. Thomas himself (a

disciple of Jesus) brought "Christianity" to India, did not include

the idea that Jesus was the son of God. Those teachings also did not

include the idea of the virgin birth, and Mary was not considered

the "mother of God." (See W.R. Phillips', The Thirty-four

Conferences

between the Danish Missionaries and the Malabar Brahmans

(Christians)

in the East Indies, 15.)

 

Portugese coercion against the St. Thomas Christians of India also

accounted for the change in their original teachings, as the

Portuguese were determined to force St. Thomas Christians to adopt

the doctrines of Western Christianity, specifically, in their case,

the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. An example of this

coercion can be found in the Decree of the Synod of Diamper, near

Cochin. This Synod was presided over by Archbishop Manzes. This

decree forced the St. Thomas Christians of India to formally

renounce

their previous beliefs, and to adopt such Western Christian beliefs

as Mary being the "mother of God."

 

The decree also forced them to use images, something that they had

previously abhored. In fact, when the Portugese first introduced

images to the St. Thomas Christians, their reply was, "We are

Christians, not idolaters." (Gibbon, Rise and Fall of the Roman

Empire, Vol. 6, 52).

 

As it says at the Church of South India website:

 

"Great confusion resulted from the arrival of Portuguese

missionaries

and Portuguese colonial rule at the end of the 15th century. Some of

the Malabar Christians were converted outright to Western

Christianity; others, although preserving parts of their liturgy and

some of their customs, recognized the supremacy of the pope. Force

and coercion were widely used to achieve these results."

 

Some Jesus-in-India writers believe that St. Thomas was with Jesus

in

Kashmir, and then went to south India to preach Jesus' message--a

message, as you can see from above, that apparently had nothing to

do

with Western Christianity. Some Malabar history reports that the

Portuguese would even resort to murder to coerce St. Thomas

Christians to accept Western Christianity.

 

These days, opponents of the Jesus-in-India theory attempt to point

to the St. Thomas Christians of India as "proof" that Jesus could

not

have gone to India. They claim that since the St. Thomas (Kerala,

Malabar) Christians practiced Western Christianity, this shows that

the Jesus-in-India theory is not true, since it opposes the idea

that

Jesus died on the cross. But the St. Thomas Christians did not

originally believe that Jesus was the "son of God," as you saw

above,

and probably did not believe that he died on the cross for the sins

of all humanity.

 

It is interesting to note that the Catholic Encyclopedia online

claims that in the year 1604, a Jesuit recorded the original

teachings of the Kerala Christians in what is called a "Report."

Now,

what is interesting is that that "Report" has not been made public

since the year 1604, when it was first written. In short, for 398

years, the Catholic Church has apparently hidden from public this

Jesuit priests' report that recorded what the original teachings of

the St. Thomas Christians of India were. Even if the report were

published tomorrow, after 398 years one would naturally wonder

whether or not the report remains unchanged. Did the original report

contain information about Jesus in India? Does it seem reasonable

that that report has not been published in 398 years?

 

We believe that this is an example of why it is now important to

begin to listen to those people of the East who not only have

documents that show that Jesus went to India, but also have their

oral traditions which state the same. One such man of the East is

the

late Meher Baba, who amassed a following of tens of thousands in

India. He also amassed a following in the West, especially amongst

entertainers and other celebrities. He is the person who coined the

now-famous saying (popularized by the genius entertainer, Bobby

McFerrin), "Don't worry. Be happy." This is what Meher Baba had to

say about Jesus in India:

 

"There is one secret about Jesus which the Christians do not know.

When Jesus was crucified, he did not die. He entered the state of

Nirvikalp Samadhi (the I-am-God state without bodily consciousness).

On the third day, he again became conscious of his body, and he

traveled secretly in disguise eastward (with some apostles) to

India.

This was called Jesus' resurrection. After reaching India, he

traveled farther east to Rangoon, in Burma, where he remained for

some time. He then went north to Kashmir, where he settled. When his

work was finished on earth, he dropped his body and entered

Nirvikalp

Samadhi permanently. Saints in India have verified these facts about

Jesus' travels. Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of

Jesus." [23 August 1925, Meherabad, LM3 p752]

 

It is very interesting that Meher Baba, back in August of 1925,

stated that "Mankind will soon become aware of the true life of

Jesus." Other people from the East, such as Dr. Fida Hassnain,

Basharat Saleem, Shirdi Sai Baba, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, all

have made

similiar statements.

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