Fw: [awakenedawareness] Beyond Knowledge - Jean Klein

[Guest guest]

Typed from: Beyond Knowledge, Jean Klein, edited by Emma Edwards, pages 79-85

When you pronounce the word ‘I’ there is no reference. The pronoun ‘I’

can never become a thought. When you pronounce it, it refers to your

real nature. It is a vertical feeling, a timeless feeling. It points

directly to your heart. On this ‘I,’ we would like to have our

dialogue this evening.

Sometimes you say the word ‘I’ and sometimes you say, ‘I am.’ Why do

you sometimes follow the word ‘I’ with the word ‘am’?

When you say ‘I am,’ the word refers to itself. ‘Am’ refers to the

‘I,’ and not to this or that. So, when you say ‘I am,’ it means ‘I am

the I’. Perhaps it would be easier to say ‘am,’ but the pronoun ‘I’ is

not thinkable. When you pronounce it in the right way, it makes you

straight, free from time. When you say, ‘I am this,’ then the ‘I’ is

dissolved in ‘this,’ in time and space, in experience. But in reality

what we are fundamentally can never be an object, an object in space

and time. The word ‘I,’ when it is used in the right way, is sacred.

It refers directly to our heart. We automatically point to our heart

when we say ‘I’. It is so in all languages.

Dr. Klein, is it possible to talk of a quality of ‘witnessing’ in this ‘I am’?

The ‘I’ refers to our whole being, our global being. The ‘I’ is not a

fractional point of view, it is free from any points. When the ‘I’

refers to our totality, then all that comes out is sacred. In this

position there is no choice, what comes out of the heart region is

right. So, one should not put in question all that comes out from

this region.

What do you mean exactly when you say, ‘When the ‘I’ is pronounced

correctly’? What is this right pronunciation?

‘Pronounced correctly’ means with no trace of qualifications. Then all

that you are is included. It is your wholeness. All that you say

refers to the ‘I’, all that is potential is in the ‘I.’ So, all that

flows out of the ‘I’ is sacred.

When and how does the question ‘Who am I?’ come from deep within?

It comes from the ‘I’ itself. If there were not an ‘I,’ you would not

be able to ask the question ‘Who am I?’, you can never find it, any

more than the eye can see its own seeing. All that you can find is an

object, a thought in space and time. But there is a moment when it

gives itself up. It must be a total giving up, and then the asker is

the answer. It is our dearest, it is love. But we have said very

often, one must be ripe, one must be ready to ask the question, ‘Who

am I?’. We can never go to the question. The question comes to us. We

can only be in a welcoming state.

[young boy] You said earlier that we cannot question what comes from

the heart. How do we know that it actually comes from the heart?

It is a secret feeling. In this moment there is no reference to

anything about you. There is a feeling, a holy feeling. When you have

discovered in your life something which for you is dearest, you will

not even confide it to your mother and father; you will keep it a

secret. It is so warm, it gives you a fever. You forget that you are

a young boy, you forget all that you know about you.

Sometimes, although I feel good, well and happy, my mind reacts with

negative thoughts. Why this situation?

Make it clear for yourself that when you say, ‘I am happy’, you are

not happy, because you have made a state of it. In a state, you go in

and you go out. So the mind is still involved in it. When a desired

state has been attained in your life, you live in happiness, but

there is a moment in this happiness where there is no cause and

nobody is happy, there is only happiness. This causeless happiness is

your real nature. Live it without finding a cause for it. When you

give a cause there is anticipation of a repetition, which hinders the

unexpected from coming up. So live this happiness without cause.

The ‘I’ that you talked about, it is in my experience and I do not

know it? Or is it in my experience and I give it some other name or

some other cause?

It is not out or in; it is you, but you ignore it. The formulation of

your question comes from the ‘I-image.’ You want it to be tangible,

but it can never be objective. It is only through inquiring with an

oriented mind that you can make it you own.

>From where can the ego draw strength when we want to do something and we cannot?

It comes from your desire, but your desire is confused. You live your

desire in ignorance. Do you really know what you desire? Is it to

give security and pleasure to the woman in you?

I do not feel weak because I am a woman.

Are you only a woman? Why this restriction: to be a ‘woman’? Apart

from the woman, inquire what you are. Why this fractional living?

When the situation asks you to be a woman, then be a woman. But

situations in life do not ask you to constantly be a woman. Free

yourself from the woman. In any case, this country is a man’s

society—so free yourself from what this society has done to you.

What has it done to me?

A man’s society emphasizes the woman, pushes you to be a woman. It has

put you in a cage. You are much, much more than the society has made

of you. You are simply a being, a beautiful being. When you see the

cage, it is enough. You do not need to try to escape from the cage.

Then you belong to it, because, in trying to escape it, you are in

complicity with it. See that only the seer is out of it.

A little while ago, you described a state in which there is complete

lack of thought. These moments come to my mind always as the past, as

what has happened. Can one do anything about this?

You make these moments a blank state, because you consider them an

absence of thought. But at those moments there is the light of your

real nature. All that is perceived is more or less a superimposition

on what is constant, what is a continuum, what is. But you are

accustomed only to living in relation to objects, in the

subject-object relationship. For you, the blank state is an object

perceived and conceived in space and time. It has no existence in

itself, it needs a perceiver. Who is the perceiver?

The few times that I have experienced absence of thought I have felt

joy which has no cause, but I do not know how to have it more often.

Question what is the motive to think at certain moments. When life

asks for thinking, think. But most of our thinking is wishful

thinking, daydreaming. Be aware of these moments of daydreaming. Just

being aware sets you immediately outside the process. Then be your

perceiving. It is only when you become aware of it very often that

you become free from the reflex.

When you say, ‘Be aware,’ what meaning does it have? Is it up to me to be aware?

There are many moments when there is no reason, no vital need to

think. Yet you furnish these moments with thinking because you feel a

certain insecurity, or you are bored.

In the past you have spoken about letting the mind become exhausted.

My mind is showing no sign whatsoever of fatigue in this game. Can

you help me get my mind to go beyond itself?

The mind cannot go beyond itself through its own will. At a certain

point it can no longer stay in the realm of thinking and there comes

a moment when we find ourselves at the threshold of being. It is only

a spontaneous giving up. You will find yourself open, in a state of

waiting without waiting. Then you will be open to the openness. But

it is not a process of will. What you are looking for can never be

asserted, can never be objective, can never be affirmed—impossible!

It is ultimate negativity. It is better to say, ‘I don’t know.’ In

this not-knowing there is real knowing. What you are ultimately can

never be known, because there is no knower.

I do not understand what you mean by this ‘ultimate negativity.’

The ultimate truth is openness. It has no frontier and it has no

center. So, when you understand something objectively, it is not the

ultimate. The ultimate can only appear in your total absence. Find

the opportunity in your life to be in this total absence. It is only

in this ultimate absence that there is presence. But in this presence

there is no place for an ‘I-concept,’ for the person that you believe

yourself to be. There is no more hold.

Is the absence of life deep sleep or death?

Deep sleep is the highest non-dual state that you can experience, but

it is temporary. When you know life there is no place for death

because you are in your continuum. So, remain in life and death has

no more meaning.

You explained before that we are not aware during everyday life. The

question is: Do we actually have a say in being aware of not being

aware? Is it a choice we have, to be or not to be aware.

To be or not to be…[laughter]…that is the question. When you really

live the question, then you see that you are beyond the ‘be’ and the

‘not to be’. So ‘being’ and ‘not being’ must disappear. Then there is

being the being. Being and not being refer to being. That being is

beyond being and not-being. You see, this is the double absence of

which we spoke yesterday.

Thank you for coming.