Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 What then is Truth? A difficult question, but I have solved it for my self by saying that it is what the voice within tells you. How then, you ask, do different people think of different and contrary truths? Well, seeing that the human mind works through innumerable media and that the evolution of the human mind is not the same for all, it follows that what may be truth for one may be untruth for another, and hence those who have made these experiments have come to the conclusion that there are certain conditions to be observed in making those experiments. Just as for conducting scientific experiments there is an indispensable scientific course of instruction, in the same way strict preliminary discipline is necessary to qualify a person to make experiments in the spiritual realm. Everyone should, therefore, realise his limitations before he speaks of his inner voice. Therefore we have the belief based upon experience, that those who would make ndividual search after truth as God, must go through several vows, as for instance, the vow of truth, the vow of brahmacharya (purity), for you cannot possibly divide your love for Truth and God with anything else - the vow of non-violence, of poverty and non-possession. Unless you impose on yourselves the five vows you may not embark on the experiment at all. There are several other conditions prescribed, but I must not take you through all of them. Suffice it to say that those who have made these experiments know that it is not proper for everyone to claim to hear the voice of conscience and it is because we have at the present moment everybody claiming the right of conscience without going through any discipline whatsoever that there is so much untruth being delivered to a bewildered world. All that I can in true humility present to you is that truth is not to be found by anybody who has not got an abundant sense of humility. If you would swim on the bosom of the ocean of Truth you must reduce yourself to a zero. Further than this I cannot go along this fascinating path. December 31, 1931. (This is a talk which Gandhi delivered at a meeting at Laussane in Switzerland) Satyameva Jayate ! Truth alone triumphs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thank you for sharing these Adiji. Love to all Harsha adi_shakthi16 [adi_shakthi16 ] Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:55 AMSubject: Re: God Is Love ; God is Truth and Truth is God!!!!!!!!! part 2 What then is Truth?A difficult question, but I have solved it for my self by saying that it is what the voice within tells you. How then, you ask, dodifferent people think of different and contrary truths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Dear Friends and how do you differentiate between your inner voice and illusions? For many years this was a real "problem" for "me" looking forward for your practical conclusions Harsha and all others with experience int this field sunshine smiles laughter be embraced michael bindel - Harsha Sunday, April 11, 2004 4:09 PM RE: Re: God Is Love ; God is Truth and Truth is God!!!!!!!!! part 2 Thank you for sharing these Adiji. Love to all Harsha adi_shakthi16 [adi_shakthi16 ] Saturday, April 10, 2004 11:55 AMSubject: Re: God Is Love ; God is Truth and Truth is God!!!!!!!!! part 2 What then is Truth?A difficult question, but I have solved it for my self by saying that it is what the voice within tells you. How then, you ask, dodifferent people think of different and contrary truths?/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 , "Michael Bindel" <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > Dear Friends > > and how do you differentiate between your inner voice and illusions? Good luck on this. I think the processes of the mind are pure of necessity. That is, logic and reason are truthful but the purposes they are put to sometimes are not. If you do math the answers come in the small truthful voice. The same if you are solving problems. In Raja Yoga you find that the mental processes are: logic, dreaming, memory, imagination, and intuition. These are distinct from the vrittis or the thoughts that these processes generate. So if you have a prejudiced thought and use logic the logic is hindered but still does the best that it can. If you have a fear that blocks memory the memory still does the best that it can. If your mind is not still intuition is blocked but it still does the best that it can. So for a practical suggestion, I suggest you study Patanjali. Love Bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Bobby right you are but studying alone is not it to practice it from moment to moment thats it love michael bindel - "texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham <> Monday, April 12, 2004 6:09 AM Re: God Is Love ; God is Truth and Truth is God!!!!!!!!! part 2 > , "Michael Bindel" > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > Dear Friends > > > > and how do you differentiate between your inner voice and > illusions? > > Good luck on this. I think the processes of the mind are pure of > necessity. That is, logic and reason are truthful but the purposes > they are put to sometimes are not. > > If you do math the answers come in the small truthful voice. The > same if you are solving problems. > > In Raja Yoga you find that the mental processes are: logic, dreaming, > memory, imagination, and intuition. These are distinct from the > vrittis or the thoughts that these processes generate. > > So if you have a prejudiced thought and use logic the logic is > hindered but still does the best that it can. If you have a fear > that blocks memory the memory still does the best that it can. If > your mind is not still intuition is blocked but it still does the > best that it can. > > So for a practical suggestion, I suggest you study Patanjali. > > Love > Bobby G. > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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