Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Thanks everybody and particularly Mazie for the gorgeous Kalis. A realized being suggested me to read the book: "Kali's child. The mystical and the Erotic in the Life and teachings of Ramakrishna" I am a little hesitant, though I will do it, trusting where the suggestion comes from. Anybody knows this book? in love marifa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 I have read about this book before, here is a random pick from a quick search Alan Kali's Child: A Methodological NightmareKali's Child: The Mystical and the Erotic in the Life and Teachings of Ramakrishna is, at its best, an intellectual pornography designed at denigrating an outside culture. Intellectual it certainly is, for it attempts to apply the techniques of Freudian "science" to the field of mysticism, in order to bring the deepest level of the human soul under the ken of scientific enquiry. It is pornography, as the author dives in his scientific mode into the mystic level, armed with the tools of nudity, both the homo as well as the hetero-sexual varieties of it, for a specific use in view, without any apparent respect for the mystic process at all. -- Dr. Sitansu Sekhar Chakravarti, Ph.D. Protest Letters for Kali's ChildThe book Kali's Child: The Mystical and the Erotic in the Life and Teachings of Ramakrishna, by Jeffrey Kripal was recently published by the University of Chicago Press. The highly flawed book (based on an earlier Ph.D. thesis) has been most disturbing to Hindus worldwide. The twisted conclusions and derogatory ideas presented in the book are clearly intended as an assault on Hinduism in general, and on Paramhansa Shree Rama Krishna, in particular.-- Dr. Sitansu Sekhar Chakravarti, Ph.D. & Others - Emanuele De Benedetti Monday, April 12, 2004 8:44 PM Kali--Ramakrishna Thanks everybody and particularly Mazie for the gorgeous Kalis. A realized being suggested me to read the book: "Kali's child. The mystical and the Erotic in the Life and teachings of Ramakrishna" I am a little hesitant, though I will do it, trusting where the suggestion comes from. Anybody knows this book? in love marifa/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Dear Marifa, "Kali's Child" is said to be somewhat critical of Sri Ramakrishna. The Ramakrishna establishment has denounced the book. I myself haven't read it. Have you read the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna or The Great Master? I think that they're both wonderul books. Warmest regards, michael --- Emanuele De Benedetti <e.debenedetti wrote: > Thanks everybody > > and particularly Mazie for the gorgeous Kalis. > > A realized being suggested me to read the book: > > "Kali's child. The mystical and the Erotic in the > Life and teachings of Ramakrishna" > > I am a little hesitant, though I will do it, > trusting where the suggestion comes from. > > Anybody knows this book? > > in love > marifa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 i would not recommend this book to anyone .. specially those who have high regards for the Saint... it is a sensation-mongering book - it talks about Sri ramakrishna in a derogatory way - hinting he is a 'homo-sexual' ... LOVE PS i have nothing against 'homosexuals' but Shri ramakrishna is a saint and hindus do not like these kind of accusations. -- In , Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes> wrote: > Dear Marifa, > > "Kali's Child" is said to be somewhat critical of Sri > Ramakrishna. The Ramakrishna establishment has > denounced the book. > > I myself haven't read it. > > Have you read the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna or The > Great Master? I think that they're both wonderul > books. > > Warmest regards, > > michael > > --- Emanuele De Benedetti <e.debenedetti@t...> > wrote: > > Thanks everybody > > > > and particularly Mazie for the gorgeous Kalis. > > > > A realized being suggested me to read the book: > > > > "Kali's child. The mystical and the Erotic in the > > Life and teachings of Ramakrishna" > > > > I am a little hesitant, though I will do it, > > trusting where the suggestion comes from. > > > > Anybody knows this book? > > > > in love > > marifa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Hullo Adi, it is interesting to hear that, amongst Hindus, it is considered insulting to suggest that someone might be gay. That used to be the case in the West but over the last twenty years, gays, and people of a generally friendly disposition, have managed to destroy that stigma. Not entirely, of course, because there are those who derive great pleasure from stereotyping certain groups and making them objects of scorn. There are those who would rather give up their children than give up their prejudices. Let's hope that this stigma, and the immense suffering it causes, can be progressively destroyed all over the world. Love Warwick - adi_shakthi16 To: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:20 AM Re: Kali--Ramakrishnai would not recommend this book to anyone .. specially those who have high regards for the Saint... it is a sensation-mongering book - it talks about Sri ramakrishna in a derogatory way - hinting he is a 'homo-sexual' ... LOVE PS i have nothing against 'homosexuals' but Shri ramakrishna is a saint and hindus do not like these kind of accusations. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor LinksTo visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 dear warwick, it is not so much the fact that hindus are against 'gays' but Shri Ramakrishna is supposed to be a saint and ,devout hindus are not interested in discussing his sexual orientation - no matter whether he is homo or hetrosexual! He is supposed to have transcended mundane 'sexuality' love ps i am not homo-phoboic - just to let you know! -- In , "Warwick Wakefield" <formandsubstance@t...> wrote: > Hullo Adi, > > it is interesting to hear that, amongst Hindus, it is considered insulting to suggest that someone might be gay. > That used to be the case in the West but over the last twenty years, gays, and people of a generally friendly disposition, have managed to destroy that stigma. Not entirely, of course, because there are those who derive great pleasure from stereotyping certain groups and making them objects of scorn. There are those who would rather give up their children than give up their prejudices. > > Let's hope that this stigma, and the immense suffering it causes, can be progressively destroyed all over the world. > > Love > Warwick > > - > adi_shakthi16 > > Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:20 AM > Re: Kali--Ramakrishna > > > i would not recommend this book to anyone .. > > specially those who have high regards for the Saint... > > it is a sensation-mongering book - it talks about Sri ramakrishna in > a derogatory way - hinting he is a 'homo-sexual' ... > > LOVE > > PS i have nothing against 'homosexuals' but Shri ramakrishna is a > saint and hindus do not like these kind of accusations. > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Sponsor > Links > > > / > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 >From what I have read in the introduction, the book is not necesseraly accusatory, in a moralistic way, of Ramakrishna. My guess is that the book mantains that Ramakrishna ecstasies were often triggered by the proximity of a close disciple. And there was contact with his feet, or arms. This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even conscious of any tendency. As we all know the energy due to difference in polarity, if properly channeled, can be used to reach higher states of consciousness, and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an enlightened woman. (more after I have read it) What is important for a seeker of Truth is to seek Truth at any cost, I don't think that a possible hidden homosexuality in Ramaksrihna can diminish his giant stature of Kali's devotee. Few years ago I had been reading, for almost two years continuosly, his gospels, and it is the maximum in devotion, but also there is a deep understanding of non-duality. Can homosexuality diminish my love and respect for such a being? We have to be careful, when we search for Truth not to be attached to our ideal of how reality should be, of our idea of right and wrong, and I speak for myself too: Reality is much, much vaster than any of us can perceive, even for an enlightened being there is no end to the Mistery of manifestation. Many of us still live with the idea that a saint has gone beyond any attachment: for what I have lived in the last few years I could say that even attachments can be lived in freedom: once the non-dual nature of our Self is revealed, the realisation has happened, but the body-mind conditionments not necesserely drop on their own: does this mean that one is not fully realised? Or it is just our ideas of how realisation should be?. If I know, really know because I am it, that I don't exist as a person, individual, but that I am lived by Life itself through this body-mind, does it really matter if there is any attachment? When I am All, does it really matter whether My actions are performed by this individual body-mind or another one? So is this body a saint, but not my consciousness that embraces everything? Sorry ladies and guys and gays, so many questions that are still quite hot for many of us.... And of course I bow down to the difference in cultural background, that make a hindu not interested in discussing these matters. Osho was often saying that Freud is not for Hindus or Japanese, if you tell them that they hate their father and want to make love with their mother, they might kill you. in love and provocation and joy and fun marifa - "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16 <> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 1:20 AM Re: Kali--Ramakrishna > i would not recommend this book to anyone .. > > specially those who have high regards for the Saint... > > it is a sensation-mongering book - it talks about Sri ramakrishna in > a derogatory way - hinting he is a 'homo-sexual' ... > > LOVE > > PS i have nothing against 'homosexuals' but Shri ramakrishna is a > saint and hindus do not like these kind of accusations. > > -- In , Michael Bowes > <rmichaelbowes> wrote: > > Dear Marifa, > > > > "Kali's Child" is said to be somewhat critical of Sri > > Ramakrishna. The Ramakrishna establishment has > > denounced the book. > > > > I myself haven't read it. > > > > Have you read the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna or The > > Great Master? I think that they're both wonderul > > books. > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > michael > > > > --- Emanuele De Benedetti <e.debenedetti@t...> > > wrote: > > > Thanks everybody > > > > > > and particularly Mazie for the gorgeous Kalis. > > > > > > A realized being suggested me to read the book: > > > > > > "Kali's child. The mystical and the Erotic in the > > > Life and teachings of Ramakrishna" > > > > > > I am a little hesitant, though I will do it, > > > trusting where the suggestion comes from. > > > > > > Anybody knows this book? > > > > > > in love > > > marifa > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Dear Adi and Warwick, --- adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16 wrote: > dear warwick, > > it is not so much the fact that hindus are against > 'gays' but Shri > Ramakrishna is supposed to be a saint and ,devout > hindus are not > interested in discussing his sexual orientation SNIP Yes, I agree, the discussion of sexual orientation need not be a part of transcendental philosophy and discussion. Warmest regards, michael bowes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 dear heart, i have to state certain inaccuracies in your post... you write ... "My guess is that the book mantains that > Ramakrishna ecstasies were often triggered by the proximity of > a close disciple. And there was contact with his feet, or arms. This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even conscious > of any tendency." it is guess, i am afraid ... i read the book long time ago and then i prohibited my son from reading it... Jerey kripal accuses Shri ramakrishna o 'playing' with young boys and his attraction for them. he also acxcuses Shriramakrishna of having 'sexual' feelings for his disciple narendra, swami vivekananda also, Shri ramakrishna often used to dress up in a gopi bhava like a woman and act, walk and talk like a woman ... aTHIS WAS BECAUSE SHRI RAMAKRSIHNAwanted to experience the 'madhura' bhava of the Gopis- and Kripaul accused shri ramakrishna of 'cross dressing' and quoted this to prove that the saint had homosexual tendencies elsewhere in the book it was mentioned Shri Ramakrishna was so attractive as a child , he was molested by women... all stories! you state > and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an enlightened woman. yes, his tantrik guru was a woman named Brahmani Bhairavi ... but ramakrishna practiced all the pancha makara sadhana with her except "maithuna" -sexual intercourse to have a female guru is considered the highest in tantra... you go on to say >> What is important for a seeker of Truth is to seek Truth at any cost, > I don't think that a possible hidden homosexuality in Ramaksrihna > can diminish his giant stature of Kali's devotee. > Few years ago I had been reading, for almost two years continuosly, his> gospels, > and it is the maximum in devotion, but also there is a deep understanding of> non-duality. > Can homosexuality diminish my love and respect for such a being? no not at all but the point is Shri ramakrishna transcended all sexuality, homosexuality, hetrosexuality and bisexuality .... so, why say something that is not true ... it is like saying the Pope slept with madonna ! smiles ! that will a good advertisement for madonna but bad for the Vatican! smiles, again! Dear heart, it is not about hindus or christians how many will like to see or hear about this that jesus christ and mary magdelene had something going? christians will say we are being blasphemous ... and GOddess can be worshipped in the 'vira' bhava which is unique to hinduism... here only such tantriks who have conquered all pashu bhava (lower animal nature) can worship goddess approaching her as a lover using the pancha makara sadhana ( including erotic rituals) it is hinduism which has given the world a book called Yoni Tantra ( yoni means -vagina) take care love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Dear friends in the Sangha: I recall reading the Gospel of Ramakrishna but have not read this latest book that is Adiji is commenting on. Thank you to Sri Adishaktiji for bringing light to this topic and sangha. Her knowledge of various scriptures and different philosophies and her commentary is always enlightening. I wanted to mention to the Sangha, that in the next volume of HS will focus very heavily on yoga and tantra and the learned members such as Adiji and others should consider contributing. We have amassed an incredibly talented team of international editors for the next volume and the plans are now moving forward for a ground breaking new volume which will carry us forward. I have been busy lately and unable to fully participate in the conversations but am trying to read most of the posts. Some are really enjoyable. As a cautionary note, please don't use the sangha to advocate political views, advertise professional services, or post complete conversations you might have had with someone to demonstrate your wisdom (Bindu, are you listening :-). Long time members of Sangha have more discretion to bend the rules, but let's not bend them too much :-). Love to all Harsha > "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16 > 2004/04/13 Tue AM 11:21:42 EDT > > Re: Kali--Ramakrishna dear heart, and GOddess can be worshipped in the 'vira' bhava which is unique to hinduism... here only such tantriks who have conquered all pashu bhava (lower animal nature) can worship goddess approaching her as a lover using the pancha makara sadhana ( including erotic rituals) it is hinduism which has given the world a book called Yoni Tantra ( yoni means -vagina) dear heart, i have to state certain inaccuracies in your post... you write ... "My guess is that the book mantains that > Ramakrishna ecstasies were often triggered by the proximity of > a close disciple. And there was contact with his feet, or arms. This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even conscious > of any tendency." it is guess, i am afraid ... i read the book long time ago and then i prohibited my son from reading it... Jerey kripal accuses Shri ramakrishna o 'playing' with young boys and his attraction for them. he also acxcuses Shriramakrishna of having 'sexual' feelings for his disciple narendra, swami vivekananda also, Shri ramakrishna often used to dress up in a gopi bhava like a woman and act, walk and talk like a woman ... aTHIS WAS BECAUSE SHRI RAMAKRSIHNAwanted to experience the 'madhura' bhava of the Gopis- and Kripaul accused shri ramakrishna of 'cross dressing' and quoted this to prove that the saint had homosexual tendencies elsewhere in the book it was mentioned Shri Ramakrishna was so attractive as a child , he was molested by women... all stories! you state > and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an enlightened woman. yes, his tantrik guru was a woman named Brahmani Bhairavi ... but ramakrishna practiced all the pancha makara sadhana with her except "maithuna" -sexual intercourse to have a female guru is considered the highest in tantra... you go on to say >> What is important for a seeker of Truth is to seek Truth at any cost, > I don't think that a possible hidden homosexuality in Ramaksrihna > can diminish his giant stature of Kali's devotee. > Few years ago I had been reading, for almost two years continuosly, his> gospels, > and it is the maximum in devotion, but also there is a deep understanding of> non-duality. > Can homosexuality diminish my love and respect for such a being? no not at all but the point is Shri ramakrishna transcended all sexuality, homosexuality, hetrosexuality and bisexuality .... so, why say something that is not true ... it is like saying the Pope slept with madonna ! smiles ! that will a good advertisement for madonna but bad for the Vatican! smiles, again! Dear heart, it is not about hindus or christians how many will like to see or hear about this that jesus christ and mary magdelene had something going? christians will say we are being blasphemous ... and GOddess can be worshipped in the 'vira' bhava which is unique to hinduism... here only such tantriks who have conquered all pashu bhava (lower animal nature) can worship goddess approaching her as a lover using the pancha makara sadhana ( including erotic rituals) it is hinduism which has given the world a book called Yoni Tantra ( yoni means -vagina) take care love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 harshaji , you did not miss a 'thing' Enlightened persons like you will consider such books as 'thrash' you praise me too much... i am not all that 'great' ... very siinmple minded like simple simon! smiles ! "This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness." Dalai Lama in loving kindness ur friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Dear sir, It is really heart rending to read this kind of posts. Hey man why do you always think of sex and other negative things when there are so many things other this could be learned. There is a saying, when one has Yellow Jaundice the world looks yellow to him! Ignore others fallicies try yourself to acheive the ultimate. That great saint has already attained the ultimate,why speculate which you and I dont know. Now it is your and my turn to attain the same,strive for it,dont get sidelined by unnecessary things. A mountain cannot be ashamed even if thousand dogs bark at him.With best regards,V.Rajnikanth.yogi_r (AT) eth (DOT) netyogi_or (AT) hotmail (DOT) comyogi_or (AT) (DOT) co.inefax : 17734396237 - adi_shakthi16 Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:51 PM Re: Kali--Ramakrishna dear heart, i have to state certain inaccuracies in your post... you write ... "My guess is that the book mantains that > Ramakrishna ecstasies were often triggered by the proximity of > a close disciple. And there was contact with his feet, or arms.This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even conscious > of any tendency."it is guess, i am afraid ... i read the book long time ago and then i prohibited my son from reading it... Jerey kripal accuses Shri ramakrishna o 'playing' with young boys and his attraction for them. he also acxcuses Shriramakrishna of having 'sexual' feelings for his disciple narendra, swami vivekananda also, Shri ramakrishna often used to dress up in a gopi bhava like a woman and act, walk and talk like a woman ... aTHIS WAS BECAUSE SHRI RAMAKRSIHNAwanted to experience the 'madhura' bhava of the Gopis- and Kripaul accused shri ramakrishna of 'cross dressing' and quoted this to prove that the saint had homosexual tendencies elsewhere in the book it was mentioned Shri Ramakrishna was so attractive as a child , he was molested by women... all stories! you state > and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an enlightened woman.yes, his tantrik guru was a woman named Brahmani Bhairavi ... but ramakrishna practiced all the pancha makara sadhana with her except "maithuna" -sexual intercourse to have a female guru is considered the highest in tantra... you go on to say >> What is important for a seeker of Truth is to seek Truth at any cost,> I don't think that a possible hidden homosexuality in Ramaksrihna> can diminish his giant stature of Kali's devotee.> Few years ago I had been reading, for almost two years continuosly, his> gospels,> and it is the maximum in devotion, but also there is a deep understanding of> non-duality.> Can homosexuality diminish my love and respect for such a being?no not at all but the point is Shri ramakrishna transcended all sexuality, homosexuality, hetrosexuality and bisexuality .... so, why say something that is not true ... it is like saying the Pope slept with madonna ! smiles ! that will a good advertisement for madonna but bad for the Vatican! smiles, again! Dear heart, it is not about hindus or christians how many will like to see or hear about this that jesus christ and mary magdelene had something going? christians will say we are being blasphemous ... and GOddess can be worshipped in the 'vira' bhava which is unique to hinduism... here only such tantriks who have conquered all pashu bhava (lower animal nature) can worship goddess approaching her as a lover using the pancha makara sadhana ( including erotic rituals) it is hinduism which has given the world a book called Yoni Tantra ( yoni means -vagina) take care love and ((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 , "Emanuele De Benedetti" <e.debenedetti@t...> wrote: > From what I have read in the introduction, > the book is not necesseraly accusatory, in a moralistic way, > of Ramakrishna. My guess is that the book mantains that > Ramakrishna ecstasies were often triggered by the proximity of > a close disciple. And there was contact with his feet, or arms. > This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even conscious > of any tendency. > As we all know the energy due to difference in polarity, if properly > channeled, can be used to reach higher states of consciousness, > and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an enlightened > woman. > (more after I have read it) Namaste, There was a period in Ramakrishna's life when a certain behaviour was preventing him from having visions of Kali. Once the behaviour stopped the visions came back. It was my guess it had something to do with some behaviour in the tantra..............ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Dear Adishakti, thanks for your loving answer. As I said before, I wouldn't have choosen to read such a book, but a realised being, with whom I am e-mail and consciousness connected suggested me to do it saying that the book was scholarly but with some deep intuition about the life of Ramakrishna. As this is the only suggestion he gave me when I asked him about non duality and ecstasy, I will read the book open to whatever insight might come. Thank you again to have received my letter with such deep peacefulness. in love marifa - "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16 <> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:21 PM Re: Kali--Ramakrishna > dear heart, > > i have to state certain inaccuracies in your post... > > you write ... > > "My guess is that the book mantains that > Ramakrishna ecstasies were > often triggered by the proximity of > a close disciple. And there was > contact with his feet, or arms. > This doesn't mean that he was openly homosexual, and not even > conscious > of any tendency." > > it is guess, i am afraid ... > > i read the book long time ago and then i prohibited my son from > reading it... > > Jerey kripal accuses Shri ramakrishna o 'playing' with young boys and > his attraction for them. > > he also acxcuses Shriramakrishna of having 'sexual' feelings for his > disciple narendra, swami vivekananda > > also, Shri ramakrishna often used to dress up in a gopi bhava like a > woman and act, walk and talk like a woman ... aTHIS WAS BECAUSE SHRI > RAMAKRSIHNAwanted to experience the 'madhura' bhava of the Gopis- and > Kripaul accused shri ramakrishna of 'cross dressing' and quoted this > to prove that the saint had homosexual tendencies > > elsewhere in the book it was mentioned Shri Ramakrishna was so > attractive as a child , he was molested by women... all stories! > > you state > > > and Ramakrishna had also a very good Tantra training with an > enlightened woman. > > yes, his tantrik guru was a woman named Brahmani Bhairavi ... but > ramakrishna practiced all the pancha makara sadhana with her > except "maithuna" -sexual intercourse > > to have a female guru is considered the highest in tantra... > > > you go on to say > > >> What is important for a seeker of Truth is to seek Truth at any > cost, > > I don't think that a possible hidden homosexuality in Ramaksrihna > > can diminish his giant stature of Kali's devotee. > > Few years ago I had been reading, for almost two years continuosly, > his> gospels, > > and it is the maximum in devotion, but also there is a deep > understanding of> non-duality. > > Can homosexuality diminish my love and respect for such a being? > > no not at all > > but the point is Shri ramakrishna transcended all sexuality, > homosexuality, hetrosexuality and bisexuality .... > > so, why say something that is not true ... > > it is like saying the Pope slept with madonna ! smiles ! that will a > good advertisement for madonna but bad for the Vatican! smiles, > again! > > Dear heart, it is not about hindus or christians > > how many will like to see or hear about this > > that jesus christ and mary magdelene had something going? > > christians will say we are being blasphemous ... > > and GOddess can be worshipped in the 'vira' bhava which is unique to > hinduism... here only such tantriks who have conquered all pashu > bhava (lower animal nature) can worship goddess approaching her as a > lover using the pancha makara sadhana ( including erotic rituals) > > it is hinduism which has given the world a book called Yoni Tantra ( > yoni means -vagina) > > take care > > love and ((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))) > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 yogi_or writes ... "why do you always think of sex and other negative things when there are so many things other this could be learned." sir, with all due respects to you, we are here discussing only the contents of Jeffrey kirpal's book and i am in no way defending the contents of the book . It is well known Shri Ramakrishna was (is) a great saint. Thank you sir for reminding us of this fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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