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Vicki, I hope you don't mind that I forward this here.

Just seems to fit the discussion going on and other events

of my own day today :-) ...

[MillionPaths] Bhagavan: What is right and wrong?

RIGHT AND WRONG

Q.: If it is a question of doing something one considers wrong, and

thereby saving some one else from a great wrong, should one do it or

refrain from doing it?

Bhagavan: What is right and wrong? There is no standard by which to

judge something to be right another to be wrong. Opinions differ

according to the nature of the individual and according to the

surroundings. They are again ideas and nothing more. Do not worry

about them, but get rid of thoughts. If you always remain in the

right, then right will prevail in the world.

(The devotee was not satisfied with this answer and asked for further elucidation.)

Sri Bhagavan then pointed out that to see wrong in another is one’s

own wrong. The discrimination between right and wrong is the origin

of sin. One’s own sin is reflected outside and the individual in

ignorance superimposes it on another. The best course for one is to

reach the state in which such discrimination does not arise. Do you

see wrong or right in your sleep? Be asleep even in the wakeful

state, abide as the Self and remain uncontaminated by what goes on

around you. Moreover, however much you might advise them, you hearers

may not rectify themselves. Be in the right yourself and remain

silent. Your silence will have more effect than your words or deeds.

That is the development of will power. Then the world becomes the

Kingdom of Heaven, which is within you.

—Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/publish/newsletters.htm

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Dear Friends,

 

My comments follow the original post.

 

 

--- Lady Joyce <shaantih wrote:

> Vicki, I hope you don't mind that I forward this

> here.

> Just seems to fit the discussion going on and other

> events

> of my own day today :-) ...

>

>

> [MillionPaths] Bhagavan: What is right and

> wrong?

>

>

> RIGHT AND WRONG

> Q.: If it is a question of doing something one

> considers wrong, and thereby saving some one else

> from a great wrong, should one do it or refrain from

> doing it?

>

> Bhagavan: What is right and wrong? There is no

> standard by which to judge something to be right

> another to be wrong. Opinions differ according to

> the nature of the individual and according to the

> surroundings. They are again ideas and nothing more.

> Do not worry about them, but get rid of thoughts. If

> you always remain in the right, then right will

> prevail in the world.

>

> (The devotee was not satisfied with this answer and

> asked for further elucidation.)

>

> Sri Bhagavan then pointed out that to see wrong in

> another is one's own wrong. The discrimination

> between right and wrong is the origin of sin. One's

> own sin is reflected outside and the individual in

> ignorance superimposes it on another. The best

> course for one is to reach the state in which such

> discrimination does not arise. Do you see wrong or

> right in your sleep? Be asleep even in the wakeful

> state, abide as the Self and remain uncontaminated

> by what goes on around you. Moreover, however much

> you might advise them, you hearers may not rectify

> themselves. Be in the right yourself and remain

> silent. Your silence will have more effect than your

> words or deeds. That is the development of will

> power. Then the world becomes the Kingdom of Heaven,

> which is within you.

>

> -Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi

>

>

http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/publish/newsletters.htm

 

 

Dear Joyce,

 

Thank you for bringing this passage to our attention.

The wisdom that Ramana reveals in this passage is

echoed by other spiritual traditions, i.e. Judaism and

Christianity.

 

The following story from the third chapter of the book

of Genesis says that the "fall of man" was caused by

the discrimination between good and evil.

 

1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild

animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman,

"Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree

in the garden'?"

2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit

from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You

must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle

of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will

die.' "

4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the

woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your

eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing

good and evil."

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was

good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also

desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate

it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with

her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them

were opened, and they realized they were naked; so

they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for

themselves.

 

The peace of the Self transcends both good and evil.

Live at peace in Self.

 

michael

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