Self As Ever New

April 23, 2004

Self is the eternal and perpetual, ever newness. Ever new, ever fresh. We

can know this by comparing it to life experiences. I will give you some

examples.

In life everything gets stale. You love Rasgullas, Chocolate, Mango ice

cream, Burfi, Jalebi, Carrot Cake, etc. But if you have enough of it, you

will not want more. You may get exhausted and even throw up if you eat or

have too much of a good thing. Self is different. It is ever fresh, ever new

and so one can perpetually consume it and be consumed by it. Self is always

Self consuming. Its nature is that of Self-Awareness, Self-Absorption,

Self-Satisfaction.

Again, another example from life. Boy meets girl. Boy likes girl. Girl likes

boy. They get married. Boy and Girl fight. Boy and Girl get fed up with each

other. Boy and Girl get divorced. The cycle of meeting and separating

repeats. We do not see this pattern in Self-Realized Sages. For example, Sri

Ramana would never say, "I am fed up with the Self today. Let me do

something else for a while."

No prerequisites are needed for Atma Vichara (Inquiry into our nature) and

Self-Realization other than the strong desire to do it. And the truth is

that even that desire is not fully up to us but is awakened by Grace. Grace

may come as suffering in life, or blessing of a great Soul, or spontaneously

without any known reason.

Although inquiry into the nature of the Self is simple and can easily be

explained, most are not able grasp the significance of it. Out of those few

who can grasp it, only a few are able to follow it. It is because of the

nature of the mind which thrives and lives on multiplicity, diversity, and

complexity. That is the very life blood of the mind. Sages say that all our

learning, even scriptural learning is learned ignorance only.

Sri Ramana once said that he was fortunate in that he was not attracted to

various schools of philosophy and the endless debates associated with them.

Self being the ultimate simplicity, the ultimate wholeness, the ultimate

completion, can be found only in the present because its nature is that of

Presence. We live in the present, but if we consider carefully, we see that

we are actually The Presence. We live in the now, and if inquired into see

that We Are The Now. Right Here and Now. That is the only place Self is

Recognized. Here and Now. Now ness, newness, wholeness, these all can be

used to describe the Self-Nature.

Love to all

Harsha

/join

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

Sri Ramana

In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

April 23, 2004

i specially liked these lines ...

It is because of the nature of the mind which thrives and lives on

multiplicity, diversity, and complexity. That is the very life blood

of the mind.

wow! here is verse from our own non-dualist Rumi ....

The idol of your self is the mother of all idols.

The material idol is only a snake;

while this inner idol is a dragon.

It is easy to break an idol,

but to regard the self as easy to subdue is a mistake.

-- Mathnawi I: 772-778

Version by Camille and Kabir Helminski

"Rumi: Daylight"

Threshold Books, 1994

Persian transliteration courtesy of Yahyá Monastra

enjoy the bliss of Union!

April 23, 2004

Thank you Adiji. In one of your earlier posts, you had said that you

shinein "borrowed feathers".We all shine in "borrowed feathers". But

after all, it is the shining that is important.So shine on with the

radiance of energy and love.Love to allHarsha

adi_shakthi16 [adi_shakthi16 ] Friday,

April 23, 2004 6:17 PMSubject:

Re: Self As Ever New

i specially liked these lines ...It is because of the nature of the

mind which thrives and lives onmultiplicity, diversity, and

complexity. That is the very life bloodof the mind.wow! here is verse

from our own non-dualist Rumi ....The idol of your self is the mother

of all idols.The material idol is only a snake;while this inner idol

is a dragon.It is easy to break an idol,but to regard the self as

easy to subdue is a mistake.-- Mathnawi I: 772-778Version by Camille

and Kabir Helminski"Rumi: Daylight"Threshold Books, 1994Persian

transliteration courtesy of Yahyá Monastraenjoy the bliss of

Union!/join

"Love itself is

the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam"

by Suri Nagamma

April 23, 2004

Harsha this is great.

Right on.

The Self is always new and always spotless.

If you sit on the sofa you will leave hairs and skin tissue behind,

but nothing sticks to the Self.

And, furthermore, although we talk about seeking, what we seek is what we are, consciousness.

No matter how hard we try, it would not be possible NOT to be consciousness.

We are consciousness whether we want to be or not.

Much love

Warwick

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Harsha

; advaitin ; NondualitySalon

Saturday, April 24, 2004 6:49 AM

Self As Ever New

Self is the eternal and perpetual, ever newness. Ever new, ever fresh.

Wecan know this by comparing it to life experiences. I will give you

someexamples.In life everything gets stale. You love Rasgullas,

Chocolate, Mango icecream, Burfi, Jalebi, Carrot Cake, etc. But if

you have enough of it, youwill not want more. You may get exhausted

and even throw up if you eat orhave too much of a good thing. Self is

different. It is ever fresh, ever newand so one can perpetually

consume it and be consumed by it. Self is alwaysSelf consuming. Its

nature is that of Self-Awareness,

Self-Absorption,Self-Satisfaction.Again, another example from life.

Boy meets girl. Boy likes girl. Girl likesboy. They get married. Boy

and Girl fight. Boy and Girl get fed up with eachother. Boy and Girl

get divorced. The cycle of meeting and separatingrepeats. We do not

see this pattern in Self-Realized Sages. For example, SriRamana would

never say, "I am fed up with the Self today. Let me dosomething else

for a while." No prerequisites are needed for Atma Vichara (Inquiry

into our nature) andSelf-Realization other than the strong desire to

do it. And the truth isthat even that desire is not fully up to us

but is awakened by Grace. Gracemay come as suffering in life, or

blessing of a great Soul, or spontaneouslywithout any known

reason.Although inquiry into the nature of the Self is simple and can

easily beexplained, most are not able grasp the significance of it.

Out of those fewwho can grasp it, only a few are able to follow it.

It is because of thenature of the mind which thrives and lives on

multiplicity, diversity, andcomplexity. That is the very life blood

of the mind. Sages say that all ourlearning, even scriptural learning

is learned ignorance only. Sri Ramana once said that he was fortunate

in that he was not attracted tovarious schools of philosophy and the

endless debates associated with them.Self being the ultimate

simplicity, the ultimate wholeness, the ultimatecompletion, can be

found only in the present because its nature is that ofPresence. We

live in the present, but if we consider carefully, we see thatwe are

actually The Presence. We live in the now, and if inquired into

seethat We Are The Now. Right Here and Now. That is the only place

Self isRecognized. Here and Now. Now ness, newness, wholeness, these

all can beused to describe the Self-Nature.Love to allHarsha

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

April 24, 2004

Dear Harsha

with this email you have been the "source" of happiness

what you wrote - and what I felt you transmitted - is IT what "I"

feel and - sorry to state - am not able to transmit via writing

talking feeling

I tested finally to be silent - what in my humble opinion means not

to stick to any thought too -

and

o n l y this "works"

I would be grateful if you coul advise me with your practical experiences in "daily life"

regard this "matter"

thank you again

michael bindel

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Warwick Wakefield

Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:36 AM