Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 ~*~ Shivani Sannyasini {Mystic Ambrosia} Wrote: ~*~*~*~ Namaste Adi Shakti! ~*~*~*~ There is something I must clearly state to you right now my sister... Sri Ramakrishna did not have homosexual tendencies, nor any type of sexual inclinations whatsoever. Just because some ignorant homosexual man worte an ignorant book claiming this horrid slander against an Illumined Being of life~long pristine purity, does not mean it is true. The dire condition of maya engulfed Kali Yuga humans is a mind of debauchary and they sexualize everything and everyone, and are filled with lust, sensuality, cruelity and materialism. Sri Ramakrishna was spontaneously transported into all the 'Bhavas' of Savikalpa Samadhi during his spiritual sadhana. Sri Ramakeishna at one time during his sadhana was overcome with the attitude of the gopis serving Lord Krishna. Sri Ramakrishna in his constant state was that of a Divine Child, and during his whole life his mind and senses Never descended into any type of sexuality. His is acccepted in much of India and in many Hindu ashramas worldwide as an Avatar of Renunciation. Sri Ramakrishna remained in the deepest Nirvikalpa Samadhi for six months, not stirring at all, and pure food and water were mashed together and massaged down his throat by a wandering monk, to keep him alive, the wandering monk knew he must do this for Ramakrishna had to yet fulfill his Divinely decreed mission here. One of Sri Ramakrishna's main teachings and requirements in sadhana is the absolute renunciation of lust {any sexual act~impulse~thought} and greed. Even I have been a life~long celibate, free from sexual impulses and lust, and I am not even a person who remotely proclaims that I have at all attained Spiritual Illumination. A person such as myself can only accept as an Illumined Gurudeva, one who is absolutley pure and not a sexual being with any type of sexual inclinations at all. The truely spiritually Realized have no sexuality nor lust. The spiritual realms and worlds have no sexualitity or lust. You have to pattern yourself here on Mother Earth after the Spiritual state~realm you wish to attain after leaving your body. Once you yearn for, or taste even a drop of the Bliss of Brahman, sexual things are like a deadly robber and filled with poison. The thought of sexual things is like horrid poison to my entire being. My Guru has to be an Absolutely Pure and life~long celibate Guru... as my Gurudeva Swami Shraddhananda of the Ramakrishna Order is... at a young age he gave me Mantra~Diksha~Brahmacharya Initiation {mantra and life~long celibacy in thought and deed} in the summer of 1977... I have never felt inclined to sexuality of any kind. What you may 'treasure' Adi Shakti... may be a dire poison to me... and to others seeking Spiritual Illumination. Please do not entertain any false ideas about Sri Ramakrishna. Person's who are addicted to degrading the name of the Absolutely Pure Illumined Ones with their own lustful imaginations will incur the direst of bad karmas. The man who wrote that atrocious slanderous book about Sri Ramakrishna, is an ignorant person addicted to his own sexual {homosexual} lusts. Please be Aware of this. With Kindest Regards... ~*~ OM TAT SAT OM! ~*~ ~*~*~*~*~*~ Shivani Sannyasini ~*~*~*~*~*~ ^,,^************************************************************** >Y<*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM*OM* ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ http://profiles..Vedanta_Ahimsa http://profiles./MysticAmbrosia333 RamakrishnaVedantaSannyasini ~*~ Adi Shakti Wrote: Do you know something? 1) i was in the Hare Krishna movement once. At that time, i Heard about swami Kirtanananda Prabhu (west virginia temple) having molested little boys in the ashram. Also, he murdered a devotee. i spent 7 years in the movement - invested my youth , energy, time and my hard earned money. 2) I was a Tm meditator once . Having Paid $2500 for a course just to learn how to meditate on bija mantra Krim. At that time, i was totally smitten with the "deepak chopra" bug... since then, we also heard about sex scandals involving Deepak chopra. 3) I am an admirer of Osho and his books are my 'guru' and we have heard so many stories about Osho - from his Visa scandal upto 'orgies' in his oregon ashram. 4)AH! satya sai baba .. I was (am still) his devotee too! i had live darshan of him once in puttaparthi and another time at whitefield bangalore ... then , i heard about his homesexual encounter with a western disciple 5) Gurumayi - (swami chidivilasananda) - i went and participated in a retreat in new york... i heard so many stories about her and her guru swami muktananda and sex scandals in her ashram . .... this goes on and on ... and do i hate anyone of these gurus? No, not at all ! because in following all these paths , i learned so many valuable things ... While serving in the Hare Krishna ashram, i learned how to love Krishna and learned about Bhakti yoga , while practicing TM, my creative faculties were really sharp and i was able to perform so well in many areas . I continue to read Deepak chopra's books till today. i visit Mahesh Yogi's Noida ashram everytime i visit Delhi and do my bit by contributing to their philantrophic activities . then all those 'osho' allegations .... do those things bother me? i luv the 'message' the man gave ... he was a free spirited individual , someone my 'gypsy' nature could relate to! and his writings ... marvellous .. on every subject ... SAI BABA - that was a little hard on me ... i still have not recovered from that 'one' as yet... because he was not just a guru ! he was bhagwan himself ! but guess what ! is it his fault that i placed him on a pedestal? he just proved to be as 'human' as the rest of us! Gurumayi - that scandal about muktananda did not bother me in the least... for, she is a dynamite ! endowed with stunning good looks , this woman taught me how to breathe in and out the 'so-ham' mantra ... siddha yoga... I have seen most of these gurus - ammachi, karunamayi, sree maa, nirmala devi, mother mira ..... etc.... we may hear some scandals about them also aT some point ... may be not 'sex' scandals -misuse of public funds, may be! or some such thing... Does that make them all bad, sinful etc? and then the unkindest cut of all... Sri Ramakrishna ... Jeffrey kirpaul's book on shri Ramakrishna -KALI'S CHILD re: Sri Ramakrishna's homosexual tendencies ... so, what did i do? Did i take all these to heart? I learned something valuable from each and every one of them ... and like a 'true' seeker put it all behind me ... and move on to newer pastures... my fear is not so much about sexual explotation of a sisya by a guru but the 'emotional' explotation ! You place yourself in the hands of a therapist and if he expoits you emotionally that is as bad as his explopting sexually ... The other day i met this very handsome yoga teacher (a six footer) maybe in his early 30s - awesome looking ; hatha yogi " large luminous eyes , vajra like body and a face full of radiance and where do u think i met hin in karunamayi's retreat ... i looked at him spellbound ...here i am a 60 year old , well past my prime , turned on by a young handsome yoga teacher! you know what guys, women do get attracted to spiritual persons ... because of their 'aura' i am sure all his female students may make advances on him!! before u know it, he will be out of business ...facing law suits well,i think we should overlook all these 'sex' scandals and just focus on the 'teachings' and see if that makes us a more well rounded person!!! i may be wrong ...my 3 cents WELL, believe me Osho did pay gor his indiscretions ... i think he committed 'suicide ' and when he left his communes were in disarray ... BUT, OSHO WAS STILL A ORIGINAL THINKER ... i still like his views on many subjects ... let me ask you this ... BILL CLINTON WAS INVOLVED IN SO MANY SCANDALS FROM PAULA JONES TO MONICA LWEWINSKY ... still he was a great president ... IN fact, i would necever vote for a presidenrt who looks asexual ... i guess we want all gurus to be delbate monks no womder they end up molesting young boys ... ......... i am sorry folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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