Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

[Guest guest]

Sri Ramana has said that Self is the True Guru. Outside gurus, and in

fact all sources of knowledge, are simply reflections of the Self.

 

Self is unlimited in its capacity to express itself so all constraints

put on IT (that it can only be found this way or that way) are

illusory.

 

There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something like,

"Self reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on

it."

 

It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He simply said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics they would also become a genius!

 

Truth Reveals It Self as the Self shining as One without a second, as

One's very own Being.

 

Self is not other than who we are, it is not somewhere else, other than where we are.

 

Self can manifest in anyway it chooses and reveal It Self according to

the mental makeup of the aspirant.

 

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

I think Gauss was exaggerating.

If I remember correctly he showed his mathematical genius even as a young child.

If he is the person I'm thinking of, once to keep him quiet a teacher

asked him to add up all the numbers from 1 to 100. He was done in

minutes.

Asked how he did it he explained that he did it from both ends at

once. 1+100= 101, 99+2= 101, 98 + 3 + 101,. then he only needed to

figure out how many 101's, there were and multiply the two numbers. I

leave this as an exercise for the reader.

Cheers, Sam

-

Harsha

advaitin ;

Monday, May 10, 2004 3:48 PM

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

Sri Ramana has said that Self is the True Guru. Outside gurus, and in

fact all sources of knowledge, are simply reflections of the Self.

Self is unlimited in its capacity to express itself so all constraints

put on IT (that it can only be found this way or that way) are

illusory.

There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something like,

"Self reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on

it."

It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He simply said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics they would also become a genius!

Truth Reveals It Self as the Self shining as One without a second, as

One's very own Being.

Self is not other than who we are, it is not somewhere else, other than where we are.

Self can manifest in anyway it chooses and reveal It Self according to

the mental makeup of the aspirant.

Love to all

Harsha

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

Correction

-

Sam

Monday, May 10, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

I think Gauss was exaggerating.

If I remember correctly he showed his mathematical genius even as a young child.

If he is the person I'm thinking of, once to keep him quiet a teacher

asked him to add up all the numbers from 1 to 100. He was done in

minutes.

Asked how he did it he explained that he did it from both ends at

once. 1+100= 101, 99+2= 101, 98 + 3 = 101,. then he only needed to

figure out how many 101's, there were and multiply the two numbers. I

leave this as an exercise for the reader.

Cheers, Sam

-

Harsha

advaitin ;

Monday, May 10, 2004 3:48 PM

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

Sri Ramana has said that Self is the True Guru. Outside gurus, and in

fact all sources of knowledge, are simply reflections of the Self.

Self is unlimited in its capacity to express itself so all constraints

put on IT (that it can only be found this way or that way) are

illusory.

There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something like,

"Self reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on

it."

It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He simply said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics they would also become a genius!

Truth Reveals It Self as the Self shining as One without a second, as

One's very own Being.

Self is not other than who we are, it is not somewhere else, other than where we are.

Self can manifest in anyway it chooses and reveal It Self according to

the mental makeup of the aspirant.

Love to all

Harsha

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

, Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:

> I think Gauss was exaggerating.

 

Namaste,

 

I think he was right if you factor in the time he spent doing it in

previous lives..........ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

Geez Tony, I must have been as lazy in my past lives as I am in this

one. I'll never amount to nothing. Love, Sam :-)

-

Tony OClery

Monday, May 10, 2004 5:26 PM

Re: Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

, Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:>

I think Gauss was exaggerating. Namaste,I think he was right if you

factor in the time he spent doing it in previous

lives..........ONS..Tony./join

"Love itself is

the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam"

by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

Good point Sam. For those who may not know, Sam is a retired Math

Professor and a great chess player (as is David Hodges)!

In Math, Music, and Chess, the gifted prodigy shines early.

I heard a lot of stories about mathematicians growing up. My uncle was

the youngest Ph.D. in Math at the University of Illinois at the age of

23 in the 1950s. That record has been beat many times and now I have

heard of teenagers and even much younger getting their Ph.D.s in

Mathematics at famous universities like Harvard.

My father told me that my uncle's genius was evident to everyone when

he was in 3rd and 4th grades. When my father used to pick my uncle up

from school (he was about 10 years older than my uncle) and ask him

how he did on the test, invariably my uncle would say 100%!

Of course Tony has a point. Gauss had probably been studying math for many lives! :-).

That is now these things go. I will pass this on to Advaitin. Ramji is a mathematician as well!

Love to all

Harsha

Sam [s.Pasiencier (AT) planet (DOT) nl] Monday, May 10, 2004

10:56 AMSubject: Re:

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or

scriptures or gurus?

Correction

-

Sam

Monday, May 10, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

I think Gauss was exaggerating.

If I remember correctly he showed his mathematical genius even as a young child.

If he is the person I'm thinking of, once to keep him quiet a teacher

asked him to add up all the numbers from 1 to 100. He was done in

minutes.

Asked how he did it he explained that he did it from both ends at

once. 1+100= 101, 99+2= 101, 98 + 3 = 101,. then he only needed to

figure out how many 101's, there were and multiply the two numbers. I

leave this as an exercise for the reader.

Cheers, Sam

-

Harsha

advaitin ;

Monday, May 10, 2004 3:48 PM

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

Sri Ramana has said that Self is the True Guru. Outside gurus, and in

fact all sources of knowledge, are simply reflections of the Self.

Self is unlimited in its capacity to express itself so all constraints

put on IT (that it can only be found this way or that way) are

illusory.

There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something like,

"Self reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on

it."

It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He simply said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics they would also become a genius!

Truth Reveals It Self as the Self shining as One without a second, as

One's very own Being.

Self is not other than who we are, it is not somewhere else, other than where we are.

Self can manifest in anyway it chooses and reveal It Self according to

the mental makeup of the aspirant.

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

I guess everybody knows about Capablanca who at the age of four asked

his father if he could play a game of chess with him.

Papa said; 'But you don't know how to play.' 'Yes I do,' young Raul

answered. He had been watching papa and uncle and learned it that

way. He beat papa.

World's youngest GM, Magnus Carlsen, who has been invited to play in

the FIDE championships in Libya after becoming one of the FIDE

President Kirsan Iljumzhinov's nominees.

This guy is 12..

Must have burned the midnight oil in many past lives.

Of course, Ramana himself was very young when he went to Arunachala.

But the good news is: 'Hey kids. It's never too late to have a happy childhood.'

Cheers kids.

-

Harsha

; advaitin

Monday, May 10, 2004 6:27 PM

RE: Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

Good point Sam. For those who may not know, Sam is a retired Math

Professor and a great chess player (as is David Hodges)!

In Math, Music, and Chess, the gifted prodigy shines early.

I heard a lot of stories about mathematicians growing up. My uncle was

the youngest Ph.D. in Math at the University of Illinois at the age of

23 in the 1950s. That record has been beat many times and now I have

heard of teenagers and even much younger getting their Ph.D.s in

Mathematics at famous universities like Harvard.

My father told me that my uncle's genius was evident to everyone when

he was in 3rd and 4th grades. When my father used to pick my uncle up

from school (he was about 10 years older than my uncle) and ask him

how he did on the test, invariably my uncle would say 100%!

Of course Tony has a point. Gauss had probably been studying math for many lives! :-).

That is now these things go. I will pass this on to Advaitin. Ramji is a mathematician as well!

Love to all

Harsha

Sam [s.Pasiencier (AT) planet (DOT) nl] Monday, May 10, 2004

10:56 AMSubject: Re:

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or

scriptures or gurus?

Correction

-

Sam

Monday, May 10, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

I think Gauss was exaggerating.

If I remember correctly he showed his mathematical genius even as a young child.

If he is the person I'm thinking of, once to keep him quiet a teacher

asked him to add up all the numbers from 1 to 100. He was done in

minutes.

Asked how he did it he explained that he did it from both ends at

once. 1+100= 101, 99+2= 101, 98 + 3 = 101,. then he only needed to

figure out how many 101's, there were and multiply the two numbers. I

leave this as an exercise for the reader.

Cheers, Sam

-

Harsha

advaitin ;

Monday, May 10, 2004 3:48 PM

Can knowledge only come from certain sources or scriptures or gurus?

Sri Ramana has said that Self is the True Guru. Outside gurus, and in

fact all sources of knowledge, are simply reflections of the Self.

Self is unlimited in its capacity to express itself so all constraints

put on IT (that it can only be found this way or that way) are

illusory.

There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something like,

"Self reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on

it."

It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He simply said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics they would also become a genius!

Truth Reveals It Self as the Self shining as One without a second, as

One's very own Being.

Self is not other than who we are, it is not somewhere else, other than where we are.

Self can manifest in anyway it chooses and reveal It Self according to

the mental makeup of the aspirant.

Love to all

Harsha/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

[Guest guest]

, "Harsha" wrote:

> Good point Sam. For those who may not know, Sam is a retired Math

Professor

> and a great chess player (as is David Hodges)!

>

> In Math, Music, and Chess, the gifted prodigy shines early.

> I heard a lot of stories about mathematicians growing up. My uncle

was the

> youngest Ph.D. in Math at the University of Illinois at the age of

23 in the

> 1950s. That record has been beat many times and now I have heard of

> teenagers and even much younger getting their Ph.D.s in

Mathematics at

> famous universities like Harvard.

>

> My father told me that my uncle's genius was evident to everyone

when he was

> in 3rd and 4th grades. When my father used to pick my uncle up

from school

> (he was about 10 years older than my uncle) and ask him how he did

on the

> test, invariably my uncle would say 100%!

>

> Of course Tony has a point. Gauss had probably been studying math

for many

> lives! :-).

>

> That is now these things go. I will pass this on to Advaitin.

Ramji is a

> mathematician as well!

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

Namaste H et al,

 

They say that Mozart composed his first symphony at three years of

age........ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

, "Harsha" wrote:

>

> There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something

like, "Self

> reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on it."

>

> It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

German

> mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius. He

simply

> said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with mathematics

they would

> also become a genius!

>

 

Hi Gang,

 

I don't know much about previous lives, but if the Gauss story is

being used as a metaphor for realizing the self, I'd argue that what

was unsaid might go something like this "Only a mathematical genius

would spend so much time with mathematics." I don't perceive this as

contradicting Gauss' purported statement at all. We are the self,

and by meditating on the self, we come to drop the illusion that we

are not. It's called practice for a reason...

 

Just a thought,

Mark

Hey, practice makes perfect, but it takes an infinite amount of

practice...

[Guest guest]

Oh wait, I see you guys already got here. You'd think that would

teach me not to respond to the middle of an already posted thread

until reading the whole thing, huh?

 

yeah, you'd THINK so...

 

Love, Mark

 

 

, "markwotter704"

<markotter@k...> wrote:

> , "Harsha"

wrote:

>

> >

> > There is a famous quote in the Upanishads that goes something

> like, "Self

> > reveals It Self to those who seek to know it and meditate on it."

> >

> > It is always like that, even in worldly matters. Gauss, a famous

> German

> > mathematician was once asked, how did he become such a genius.

He

> simply

> > said that if anyone spent as much time as he did with

mathematics

> they would

> > also become a genius!

> >

>

> Hi Gang,

>

> I don't know much about previous lives, but if the Gauss story is

> being used as a metaphor for realizing the self, I'd argue that

what

> was unsaid might go something like this "Only a mathematical

genius

> would spend so much time with mathematics." I don't perceive this

as

> contradicting Gauss' purported statement at all. We are the self,

> and by meditating on the self, we come to drop the illusion that

we

> are not. It's called practice for a reason...

>

> Just a thought,

> Mark

> Hey, practice makes perfect, but it takes an infinite amount of

> practice...