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Hi Bob,

Hi Eugene,

You wrote:

 

<Solipsism is not my doctrine. I don't see isolation as a necessary

conclusion of the ideas already discussed in this thread, except as the

Aloneness of Being, which is expansion and not reduction.>

You are correct I believe in your view that Advaita is not solipsistic

though as you say the requirements of communication mean that we have to

cater to meanings which are inevitably limited by our histories and yet

without that limitation there would be no need for poetry or the profound

rythms that we can resonate to creating the same soul within us. The

mystic spoke of the flight of the Alone to the Alone.

 

Eugene or Bob wrote about the eye that sees the bird and the mind that sees

the eye. Then you might ask who sees the mind as we seem to be on a

leapfrogging expedition. The advaitic idea is that the witness sees the

mind in a manner of speaking. The witness is pure consciousness with the

limiting adjunct of the mind i.e. appearing as the mind. I think that must

be the basis of mindfullness practice of the Theravada Buddhists about

which I know not much --

saying blessing, best wishing, Michael.

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, ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva@e...>

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> Eugene or Bob wrote about the eye that sees the bird and the mind

that sees

> the eye. Then you might ask who sees the mind as we seem to be on

a

> leapfrogging expedition. The advaitic idea is that the witness

sees the

> mind in a manner of speaking. The witness is pure consciousness

with the

> limiting adjunct of the mind i.e. appearing as the mind. I think

that must

> be the basis of mindfullness practice of the Theravada Buddhists

about

> which I know not much --

> saying blessing, best wishing, Michael.

 

Hi Michael,

Tha Advaitic view (not doctrine) could be said as nobody is writing

or reading or leapfrogging anything yet reading and writing and

leapfrogging happens.

Same could be said for suffering.

The Maharshi might ask (prior to being questioned wihin the context

of advaita doctrine) who is speaking of pure consciousness vs. mind?

 

:-)))

Eugene

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, ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva@e...>

wrote:

> Hi Bob,

> Hi Eugene,

> You wrote:

>

> <Solipsism is not my doctrine. I don't see isolation as a

necessary

> conclusion of the ideas already discussed in this thread, except

as the

> Aloneness of Being, which is expansion and not reduction.>

> You are correct I believe in your view that Advaita is not

solipsistic

> though as you say the requirements of communication mean that we

have to

> cater to meanings which are inevitably limited by our histories

and yet

> without that limitation there would be no need for poetry or the

profound

> rythms that we can resonate to creating the same soul within us.

The

> mystic spoke of the flight of the Alone to the Alone.

>

> Eugene or Bob wrote about the eye that sees the bird and the mind

that sees

> the eye. Then you might ask who sees the mind as we seem to be on

a

> leapfrogging expedition. The advaitic idea is that the witness

sees the

> mind in a manner of speaking. The witness is pure consciousness

with the

> limiting adjunct of the mind i.e. appearing as the mind. I think

that must

> be the basis of mindfullness practice of the Theravada Buddhists

about

> which I know not much --

> saying blessing, best wishing, Michael.

 

Dear Michael:

 

I believe what you said is correct. I would add that the mind is a

current phenomena. That is, it only exists while thoughts flow.

When they stop it is non-existent, not hiding somewhere waiting to

come out. Habit, and involvement with the environment call it up.

 

To have one thought presented at a time I believe is called

mindfulness, as opposed to one thought leading to another and to

another and have the mind be blown about by karmic winds.

 

 

 

Much love,

Bobby G.

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Dearest Bobby

 

I felt your understanding and your love.

Thank you.

Taming the thoughts I am able to checking them too

but opening up to others thru talking and listening thats very hard.....

because I always thought I can manage to overcome life somehow by talking

never by being quit

now I learn the hard way to be quit what means for me not only not talking

but checking mind........

 

Thank you again!

 

Michael Bindel

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:28 PM

Re: The mirror

 

> , ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva@e...>

> wrote:

> > Hi Bob,

> > Hi Eugene,

> > You wrote:

> >

> > <Solipsism is not my doctrine. I don't see isolation as a

> necessary

> > conclusion of the ideas already discussed in this thread, except

> as the

> > Aloneness of Being, which is expansion and not reduction.>

> > You are correct I believe in your view that Advaita is not

> solipsistic

> > though as you say the requirements of communication mean that we

> have to

> > cater to meanings which are inevitably limited by our histories

> and yet

> > without that limitation there would be no need for poetry or the

> profound

> > rythms that we can resonate to creating the same soul within us.

> The

> > mystic spoke of the flight of the Alone to the Alone.

> >

> > Eugene or Bob wrote about the eye that sees the bird and the mind

> that sees

> > the eye. Then you might ask who sees the mind as we seem to be on

> a

> > leapfrogging expedition. The advaitic idea is that the witness

> sees the

> > mind in a manner of speaking. The witness is pure consciousness

> with the

> > limiting adjunct of the mind i.e. appearing as the mind. I think

> that must

> > be the basis of mindfullness practice of the Theravada Buddhists

> about

> > which I know not much --

> > saying blessing, best wishing, Michael.

>

> Dear Michael:

>

> I believe what you said is correct. I would add that the mind is a

> current phenomena. That is, it only exists while thoughts flow.

> When they stop it is non-existent, not hiding somewhere waiting to

> come out. Habit, and involvement with the environment call it up.

>

> To have one thought presented at a time I believe is called

> mindfulness, as opposed to one thought leading to another and to

> another and have the mind be blown about by karmic winds.

>

>

>

> Much love,

> Bobby G.

>

>

>

> /join

>

>

>

>

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

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, "Michael Bindel"

<michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

> Dearest Bobby

>

> I felt your understanding and your love.

> Thank you.

> Taming the thoughts I am able to checking them too

> but opening up to others thru talking and listening thats very

hard.....

> because I always thought I can manage to overcome life somehow by

talking

> never by being quit

> now I learn the hard way to be quit what means for me not only

not talking

> but checking mind........

>

> Thank you again!

>

> Michael Bindel

 

Dear Michael:

 

Nice thoughts. Patanjali said one way to overcome distractions is by

gladness. He also said it is gradual.

 

I am glad of all the things I have and then I think of what I don't

have. Well that is not gladness.

 

Gladness is being in the heart. Checking the mind is natural to the

heart.

 

Love

Bobby G.

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