Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

THANK YOU

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

Dear friends in Satsangh

thank you all of you who did care for my message

I felt it like LOVE IN ACTION

as soon as I am ready I will answer thoroughly....

in the meantime

thank you soooo much

love to all of you

michael bindel

TONY AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO DID NOT PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELING

WHATS GOING ON ON OUR PLANET AND WHAT YOU SUGGEST I and we all SHOULD

DO???

YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY VERY WELCOME

P.S.

Harsha thank you for your advice not to turn on the TV I stopped it one week ago

"unbelievable" for a "responsible" person..... but a relief indeed

michael_bindel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

MSN Home

|

My MSN

|

Hotmail

|

Shopping

|

Money

|

People & Chat

Web Search:

Hotmail

Today

Mail

Contacts

Options | Help

michael_bindel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

Free Newsletters

Reply

|

Reply All

|

Forward

|

Junk

|

Put in Folder

|

Print View

|

Save Address

Inbox

Sent Messages

Drafts

Trash Can

aufheben

bausparen

BEANTWORTE...

CHAMUDELEH

erledigen

immo

sylvia

sylvie auf...

Talma

Report Junk E-Mail

Report and Block Sender

>From :

HonestReporting <action (AT) honestreporting (DOT) com>

Reply-To :

action (AT) honestreporting (DOT) com

Sent :

Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:22 PM

To :

Michael Bindel <michael_bindel (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject :

Balanced in Iraq, Tilted in Gaza

|

|

Trash Can

|

Inbox

- ADV. - WIN A FREE TRIP TO ISRAEL FROM JNF! All you

need to do is visit our site and register for our monthly newsletter,

and you can win an all-inclusive trip to Israel on any JNF mission.

Just

Communique: 20 May 2004

BALANCED IN IRAQ, TILTED IN GAZA

Dear HonestReporting Subscriber,

On Wednesday (May 19), two very similar incidents caused the death of

10 Palestinians in Gaza, and about 40 Iraqis along the Syrian border.

In both events, local witnesses immediately claimed that military

vehicles intentionally fired upon unarmed civilian crowds. In Gaza,

the IDF immediately denied this; likewise in Iraq, US commanders

firmly disputed it. Responsible news coverage should have conveyed

the disputed nature of the two unfortunate incidents. Yet while most

media outlets were careful to express the US position prominently in

the headline and opening sentence, that same balance was denied to

Israel. The effect ― a worldwide suggestion that the IDF

deliberately murdered innocent Palestinian protestors. Some examples:

Washington Post

Iraq - US position presented in headline, first sentence(see full article)

Gaza - Israeli position presented in third paragraph.(see full article)

Headline

"... Target Disputed"

"Israeli Attack on Gaza Protest Kills at Least 12"

First sentence

"...striking what ... U.S. officials called a way station for foreign infiltrators."

"An Israeli helicopter gunship and a tank fired rockets and artillery

shells at Palestinian protesters..."Comments to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=letters%40washpost%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

LA Times

Iraq - US position presented in headline, first sentence(see full article)

Gaza - Israeli position presented in twenty-ninth paragraph(see full article)

Headline

"Military says it hit a militant safe house"

N/A

First sentence

" ...what the U.S. said was a suspected safe house for foreign fighters."

"Israeli forces fired a missile and tank shells toward a large crowd

of Palestinian demonstrators..."

Comments to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=letters%40latimes%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

BBC

Iraq - US position presented in headline, first sentence(see full article)

Gaza - Israeli position presented in eighth paragraph.(see full article)

Headline

"US Denies Bombing Wedding Party"

"Israelis Fire on Crowds in Gaza"

First sentence

"The US military has denied allegations that its forces in Iraq killed

dozens of people celebrating a marriage..."

"Israeli troops have opened fire during a protest by Palestinian demonstrators..."

Comments to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=newsonline%40bbc%2eco%2euk&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

 

Reuters

Iraq - US position presented in headline, second sentence(see full article)

Gaza - Israeli position presented in fifth paragraph.(see full article)

Headline

"US Army Disputes Reports it Killed Civilians"

"Israeli Forces Fire on Crowd in Gaza, Killing 10"

Opening 2 sentences

"... targeted 'a suspected foreign fighter safe house'"

"Israeli tanks and helicopters fired toward protesters in a

Palestinian refugee camp Wednesday..."

Comments to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=editor%40reuters%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

 

AFP

Iraq - US position presented in first sentence(see full article)

Gaza - Israeli position presented in third paragraph.(see full article)

Headline

"US troops accused of killing 40 at wedding"

"10 Palestinians killed as Israeli army fires on protest against bloody raid"

First sentence

"...the Pentagon said air strikes were conducted on a house used by foreign fighters..."

"...Israeli troops fired on hundreds of demonstrators..."

Comments to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=contact%40afp%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

Moreover, other reports from the Evening Standard, the Independent,

AFP, Associated Press, and Reuters failed to convey the actual IDF

version of events at all.

And some media outlets immediately inflated the casualties:

Ireland On-Line: 'Israeli missile strikes kill 23 civilians in Gaza'

Voice of America: 'Israeli Forces Fire On Gaza Protesters, at Least

23 Dead '

After the 2002 Jenin experience, one would have thought journalists

would have learned that part of the Palestinian strategy in this war

is to disseminate false claims of Israeli 'massacres.' This, in the

hope the falsities will make international headlines.

* * *

Since media reports downplayed or omitted the Israeli version of

Wednesday's events, HonestReporting provides here the text of the

official IDF statement, alongside a helpful aerial photograph:

IDF SPOKESPERSON'S ANNOUNCEMENT Today's incident in Rafah is a very

grave incident and the IDF expresses deep sorrow over the loss of

civilian lives.

At no point in this incident was intentional fire opened in the direction of civilians.

A large procession of several hundreds demonstrators, among them

gunmen, organized by the Palestinian Authority, left central Rafah

along the main road towards IDF forces in Tel-Sultan.

As the crowd, with the gunmen among them, drew near IDF forces, a

warning fire of a single missile was fired from a helicopter into an

open area, not towards the demonstrators. In addition, flares were

fired in the air to deter the crowd and to prevent endangering the

demonstrators.

As this did not deter the crowd and they continued to converge on the

troops, machine gun fire was opened towards a wall of an abandoned

structure along the side of the road and then four tank shells were

fired at this abandoned structure. It is possible that the

causalities were a result of the tank fire on the abandoned

structure.

The details of the incident continue to be investigated. It should be

mentioned that the scene of the incident is an area of combat and an

area of frequent exchanges of fire. The road has been rigged with

explosive charges planted by the Palestinians. The IDF has not yet

cleared the road of these explosives. At this stage it is difficult

to determine the cause of the civilian casualties.

The incident is being investigated thoroughly at this time. The IDF

has approached the Palestinians and offered medical assistance,

including the evacuation of the casualties to Israeli hospitals.

* * *

Two items support the IDF statement, yet received very little media attention:

● The New York Times stated that "a reporter who was present,

but not at the front of the march, saw two young men with

semiautomatic rifles at the start of the route."

● On Tuesday (May 18), Palestinians accused Israel of killing 2

young children, but it soon came to light that the children were

actually killed by a bomb planted irresponsibly by local terrorists.

It is altogether possible that a similar bomb caused Wednesday's

disaster.

* * *

Did your local paper fail to prominently indicate the Israeli version

of Wednesday's event ― thereby suggesting the IDF deliberately

fired upon innocents?

Meanwhile, did the paper grant US military spokesmen the very balance Israel was denied?

HonestReporting encourages you to write a letter to the editor,

pointing out any unfair coverage of the Rafah event, and the double

standard applied to Israeli vs. American military acts.

As the investigation of the Rafah incident continues, media outlets

should continue to provide both sides of the story.

Thank you for your ongoing involvement in the battle against media bias.

HonestReporting

========== ABOUT HONESTREPORTING ==========

Visit our weblog ― Media BackSpin ― for daily updates on

media and the Mideast conflict from an insider's perspective.

The HonestReporting documentary film "Relentless: The Struggle For

Peace in Israel"has now been seen by thousands of people at over 700

public screenings across the globe. For info on a screening in your

area, or to order your personal copy, visit Relentless online.

HonestReporting welcomes you to submit media critiques for possible

inclusion in future communiques. Be sure to include a URL of the

article you are critiquing, and send to:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=action%40honestreporting%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9.

 

Encourage your friends to join HonestReporting. Send a friendly info message.

HONESTREPORTING INFO SHEET to print out, post on bulletin boards,

photocopy and distribute. Get the word out to schools, places of

worship, community centers.

Privacy Guarantee: HonestReporting will never share your e-mail

address or personal details with anyone. Our web servers feature the

latest hack-proof technology.

======================================

HonestReporting involves considerable research and manpower costs.

Your donations are greatly appreciated and will help Israel win the

media battle. "Middle East Media Watch" (DBA HonestReporting) is a

section 501©(3) tax-exempt organization, contributions to which are

deductible for U.S. income tax purposes. Please send contributions to:

 

HonestReporting 400 South Lake Drive Lakewood, NJ 08701-3167

Or you can donate online with your credit card, using our secure server.

======================================

HonestReporting has 100,000 members worldwide, and is growing daily.

Campus -

http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=b2fa8b3938743ae06b98d1bdf75b74ee&lat=1085075475&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eisraelactivism%2ecom%2fhrcampus%2fCanada

- http://www.honestreporting.ca/ Spanish -

http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=cc7e5bc8030e55919bf88f8f53e70075&lat=1085075475&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fprensaveraz%2ecom%2f

Italian -

http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=28c8c8eafa6e87be28d43f0b0483da29&lat=1085075475&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fhonestreportingitalia%2ecom%2f

French readers may want to visit

http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=862b3cae225f89ee6901c390f88d1577&lat=1085075475&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ecol%2efr%2fnews%2fdesinformation%2f

 

© 2004 HonestReporting - Permission granted to post and

redistribute. E-mail:

http://by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?mailto=1&msg=MSG1085066902.3&start=1692325&len=39283&src=&type=x&to=action%40honestreporting%2ecom&cc=&bcc=&subject=&body=&curmbox=F000000004&a=4873c137dcc10d668fb10fb2f6ec72b9

 

======================================

To to HonestReporting, enter your email at the top of our homepage.

To UN

|

|

|

|

Trash Can

|

Inbox

Get the latest updates from MSN

MSN Home

|

My MSN

|

Hotmail

|

Search

|

Shopping

|

Money

|

People & Chat

Feedback | Help

© 2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. TERMS OF USE Privacy Statement

Home | News | Sports | Business | Entertainment |

Classifieds | Columnists | Lifestyles | Ebert | Search

mobile | email edition | printer friendly | email article

AutosReviews & more

HomesHomelife news

CareersNews & advice

SubscribeCustomer service

Today's news Archive Census Commentary Editorials Education

Elections Lottery Obituaries Politics Religion Special sections

Weather Weather cam War on Terror War in Iraq Andrade Brown

Falsani Foster Greeley Higgins Jackson Laney Martire McNamee

Mitchell Novak Ontiveros O'Rourke O'Sullivan Pickett Quick

Takes Richards Roeper Roeser Smith Sneed Steinberg Steyn

Sweet Washington Will Wiser Other Views

Europe en route to Islamic takeover

May 12, 2004

BY DANIEL PIPES

'Europe becomes more and more a province of Islam, a colony of

Islam.'' So declares Oriana Fallaci in her new book, La Forza della

Ragione (''The Force of Reason''). And the famed Italian journalist

is right: Christianity's ancient stronghold of Europe is rapidly

giving way to Islam.

Two factors mainly contribute to this world-shaking development.

*The hollowing out of Christianity. Europe is increasingly a

post-Christian society, one with a diminishing connection to its

tradition or its historic values. The numbers of believing, observant

Christians have collapsed in the last two generations to the point

that some observers call it the ''new dark continent.'' Already,

analysts estimate Britain's mosques host more worshippers each week

than does the Church of England.

*An anemic birth rate. Indigenous Europeans are dying out. Sustaining

a population requires each woman on average to bear 2.1 children; in

the European Union, the overall rate is one-third short, at 1.5 per

woman, and falling. One study finds that, should current population

trends continue and immigration cease, today's population of 375

million could decline to 275 million by 2075. To keep its working

population even, the EU needs 1.6 million immigrants a year; to

sustain the present workers-to-retirees ratio requires an astonishing

13.5 million immigrants annually.

Into the void are coming Islam and Muslims. As Christianity falters,

Islam is robust, assertive and ambitious. As Europeans

under-reproduce at advanced ages, Muslims do so in large numbers

while young.

Some 5 percent of the EU, or nearly 20 million people, presently

identify themselves as Muslims; if current trends continue, that

number will reach 10 percent by 2020. If non-Muslims flee the new

Islamic order, as seems likely, the continent could be

majority-Muslim within decades.

When that happens, grand cathedrals will appear as vestiges of a prior

civilization -- at least until a Saudi-style regime transforms them

into mosques or a Taliban-like regime blows them up. The great

national cultures -- Italian, French, English, and others -- will

likely wither, replaced by a new transnational Muslim identity that

merges North African, Turkish, subcontinental and other elements.

This prediction is hardly new. In 1968, the British politician Enoch

Powell gave his famed ''rivers of blood'' speech in which he warned

that in allowing excessive immigration, the United Kingdom was

''heaping up its own funeral pyre.'' (Those words stalled a hitherto

promising career.) In 1973, the French writer Jean Raspail published

Camp of the Saints, a novel that portrays Europe falling to massive,

uncontrolled immigration from the Indian subcontinent. The peaceable

transformation of a region from one major civilization to another,

now under way, has no precedent in human history, making it easy to

ignore such voices.

There is still a chance for the transformation not to play itself out,

but the prospects diminish with time. Here are several possible ways

it might be stopped:

*Changes in Europe that lead to a resurgence of Christian faith, an

increase in childbearing, or the cultural assimilation of immigrants;

such developments can theoretically occur but what would cause them

are hard to imagine.

*Muslim modernization: For reasons no one has quite figured out

(education of women? abortion on demand? adults too self-absorbed to

have children?), modernity leads to a drastic reduction in the birth

rate. Also, were the Muslim world to modernize, the attraction of

moving to Europe would diminish.

*Immigration from other sources. Latin Americans, being Christian,

would more or less permit Europe to keep its historic identity.

Hindus and Chinese would increase the diversity of cultures, making

it less likely that Islam would dominate.

Current trends suggest that Islamization will happen, for Europeans

seem to find it too strenuous to have children, stop illegal

immigration or even diversify their sources of immigrants. Instead,

they prefer to settle unhappily into civilizational senility.

Europe has simultaneously reached unprecedented heights of prosperity

and peacefulness -- and shown a unique inability to sustain itself

(one demographer, Wolfgang Lutz, notes that ''Negative momentum has

not been experienced on a large scale in world history'').

Is it inevitable that the most brilliantly successful society also be

the first in danger of collapse due to a lack of cultural confidence

and offspring? Ironically, creating a hugely desirable place to live

would seem also to be a recipe for suicide. The human comedy

continues.

Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum.

News | Sports | Business | Entertainment | Lifestyles | Classifieds

Visit our online partners:Daily Southtown Pioneer Press

Suburban Chicago Newspapers Post-TribuneStar Newspapers

Jerusalem Post Daily Telegraph Copyright 2004, Digital Chicago

Inc.

"The Golden Report" jerry

"Jerry Golden" JGolden

How about some truth.

Thu, 20 May 2004 09:02:51 +0200

Organization: The Golden Report

http://www.thegoldenreport.com

5-20-04

How about some facts

Intelligence and I might add very good intelligence that weapons

brought in from Iran and Saudi Arabia by Hizbullah are sitting near

the Israeli Egyptian border ready to be brought in by tunnels into

Rafah. Some of them still in a tunnel that goes under the Suez Canal

near a town called El-Arish where they were unloaded from a ship.

These weapons were to escalate the battle between the Terrorists

groups controlled by Yasser Arafat to make it appear that the IDF was

ran out of Gaza much like that of Southern Lebanon by the Hizbullah.

These are not just guns and grenades what we are talking about is a

very large shipment of Strella shoulder-launched anti-aircraft

missiles capable of bring down commercial airliners as well as

military and Sagger anti-tank missiles to kill many IDF soldiers.

With a collection of other long range missiles that can be aimed at

many Israeli towns, killing many Jews.

With this type of information Israel had little choice but to stop

this shipment and those certain to come after it, and to do it now

before thousands of Israelis were killed. In the mean time Egypt sits

still and will not lift a hand to stop the smuggling of weapons into

Israel. It would be impossible for Egypt not to be in full knowledge

of these shipments yet they turn a blind eye. This is the same

country that the US has armed with F-16 and many other long range

weapons knowing they have no enemies who means them any harm, and

that there only desire is to destroy Israel.

I heard the wonderful political speech George Bush just gave to secure

some Jewish and Christian votes. But maybe someone should ask him why

he will not pick up the phone and talk to his old friend President

Mubarak of Egypt who stays at his ranch, and ask him why he doesn’t

cut off the smuggling tunnels. Or why he doesn’t stop the ships that

bring the weapons in from Iran then stocked piled in the desert

waiting their turn to come through the tunnels into Gaza?

Israel had no choice but to launch a strong operation dubbed "

Operation Rainbow" to clear out the houses that the Terrorists used

to hide their snipers and weapons smuggling tunnels.

Yasser Arafat ordered tens of thousands of Palestinians to march on

the IDF, with armed Hamas and Islamic Jihad Terrorists among them.

Knowing that if they ever got close to the IDF soldiers at the

Philadelphi Route it would cause a shoot out, for they would have to

be stopped. For without any doubt they would overwhelm and kill the

IDF soldiers. The route the Palestinians were coming down was also

heavy mined. The IAF helicopter fired a missile into an open field in

front of the on coming Palestinians and the IDF tanks fired shells

into an empty building along side of them to frighten them into

scattering knowing that if they didn’t stop many would have to be

killed. It was then there was an explosion in the middle of the

group. The IDF and the IAF both say they never fired into the middle

of the crowd and that it is under investigation. But in the mean time

Israel has offered to give medical help to the wounded which the PA

refused.

The real villain here is Yasser Arafat, he was so upset over operation

Rainbow that it would once again stop his shipment of arms from Iran

to kill Jews so he order his people into the streets to die for his

cause. His logic seems to be that if he couldn’t get the weapons he

wanted for his terrorists he’d set up a situation that would bring

the world down on Israel once again.

Israel has no choice but to widen the Philadelphi Route in Rafah, for

if Israel pulls out of Gaza the IDF will have to patrol that border.

Israel can never give Arafat access to the Egyptian border, then he

wouldn’t even need tunnels. Over the past couple weeks these houses

have been used by Palestinian snipers and many of them have tunnels

under them for the movement of weapons from Egypt to Gaza.

I remember a month or so back that when the IDF blew up a tunnel they

looked on the Egyptian side of the border and a lot of smoke came out

of an Egyptian Police Station. This gives you some idea what we are up

against.

The real victims here are not just us Israelis but the Palestinians

for they have been brainwashed with Islamic doctrine from birth, and

along came Yasser Arafat who told them that to be a martyr for Allah

was the highest calling. I have seen a glimmer of hope over the past

few weeks, even King Abdullah has hinted that Arafat should step

down. Several noted and well-known Palestinian Journalist has finally

got the courage to say he should step down. But as I said it is but a

glimmer and the real fire is burning from the Arafat camp and that

includes Hamas and Islamic Jihad who could not operated without his

approval.

In closing I want you to notice the pictures shown by CNN & BBC

showing all the kids who were being carried out of the area. As soon

as there is any attack by the IDF Palestinian men start grabbing kids

and carrying them in front of the cameras. What is even more

disturbing is the Reporters know what is happening but show the

pictures anyway. CNN & BBC reported that up to 18 were killed, but

the real number has proven to be 8, but that is being called a

massacre. It’s like the time when one of the IAF cameras caught the

act of a "corpse" that fell off the stretcher he was being carried

on, and jumped up and got back on the stretcher.

At the same time a US helicopter fired into a house full of family

members having a wedding in Iraq killing 45, also regrettable I am

sure, but watch which one gets the most publicity.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, for all the IDF

soldiers and all those who have come to fight the Islamic enemy. Pray

for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden

To Make a Donation to Jerry Golden Click on "PayPal Donate" Logo to Left

If you're not a Paypal Member

Attachment: (image/jpeg) top.jpg [not stored]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Dear Michael,

I heard from the awakend ones

that the best thing one can do to help the world

is to realise oneself.

The wave of the enlightenment will spread

all over the planet and contribute to the uplifting

of humanity as a whole.

Ramana with his silence and his apparent non-doing

was able to spread his silence all over the world

and he is still doing it!!

Is there anything more powerful than this?

Of course we are not all Ramanas.

Realisation of the Self and Love is the only way,

any other thing will interfere with the spontaneous unfolding

of the Universe.

Who are we to know what is the best way of unfolding?

It is the way that is happening now.

The exacerbation of conflicts, the ruthless profit making,

the egocentric attitude more and more going to extremes

are probably the way IT seeks itself.

Many realised being of the modern world have reached enlightenment

only after a profound crisis of depression or the like.

So it seems that the evolotion of Consciousenss,

if we can speak of evolution, is going through the 'extremization'

of polarities to reach its 'goal'.

This universe is made through polarities,

it wouldn't exist otherwise.

Avasa, my friend and teacher of Advaita

answering to a question about Iraq,

was saying that are the people that want peace that create wars.

Why? Because there is a law of equilibrium that rules this universe

and so much 'evil' has to be balanced by so much 'good'

and viceversa.

I don't really like this law, but if it is true, there is nothing that

we can really do but spontaneous unplanned actions,

that will be the only actions that, arising from the whole,

will not interfere with its natural unfolding.

As for myself what I was lead to choose

is realisation of the Self and Love.

That is, I just send love to all

sometimes more specifically to some place on the Earth,

but without the intention to change anything,

that 's quite difficult, but I try.

It is like the Buddhist Metta meditation.

But sometimes Buddhist wants to change things

and I feel it is better not to have even that intention.

The universe knows more than we know

unless we become it.

in love

marifa

-

Michael Bindel

Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:25 PM

THANK YOU

Dear friends in Satsangh

thank you all of you who did care for my message

I felt it like LOVE IN ACTION

as soon as I am ready I will answer thoroughly....

in the meantime

thank you soooo much

love to all of you

michael bindel

TONY AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO DID NOT PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELING

WHATS GOING ON ON OUR PLANET AND WHAT YOU SUGGEST I and we all SHOULD

DO???

YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY VERY WELCOME

P.S.

Harsha thank you for your advice not to turn on the TV I stopped it one week ago

"unbelievable" for a "responsible" person..... but a relief indeed

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

marifa wrote...

As for myself what I was lead to choose

is realisation of the Self and Love.

That is, I just send love to all

sometimes more specifically to some place on the Earth,

but without the intention to change anything,

that 's quite difficult, but I try.

It is like the Buddhist Metta meditation.

But sometimes Buddhist wants to change things

and I feel it is better not to have even that intention.

The universe knows more than we know

unless we become it.

in love

marifa

==========================================

Dear Marifa...

You are wise as well as profound as well as poetic...

the universe surely flows through you...

today I was working on a webpage and went searching for the title of a

Rumi poem and found this link, with a story which really touched me,

so I pass it on to you all...

....I simply put my hand on its quaking, dying body; the eyes of the

mother met mine. I could hear the mother say "Do something-now, help

my baby." In my natural self, I was simply Jon, another human being

struggling with all the forces of life and death, pain, sickness as

everyone around me. Yet, as my hand was on this child, another

reality came to me, the reality of life eternal, of a God who was not

simply in the distance, but moved with compassion to those who could

not help themselves like this little child. This was not a time to

discuss the why of suffering...

http://kabiza.com/Medical-care-and-Miracles.htm

Love,

Joyce

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Dearest Marifa

Your mail is full of love and wisdom

and I accept everything

it reminds "my" own conclusions

which I doubted so much as I doubted myself....

Even the words of your teacher Avasa

sounds true for me

I had the same "impression"

but I do not "like" this either

but as I have to give up

likes and dislikes.....

its good to accept it

So dear friend

thank you so much

in gratitude

Michael

-

Emanuele De Benedetti

Friday, May 21, 2004 12:30 PM

Re: THANK YOU

Dear Michael,

I heard from the awakend ones

that the best thing one can do to help the world

is to realise oneself.

The wave of the enlightenment will spread

all over the planet and contribute to the uplifting

of humanity as a whole.

Ramana with his silence and his apparent non-doing

was able to spread his silence all over the world

and he is still doing it!!

Is there anything more powerful than this?

Of course we are not all Ramanas.

Realisation of the Self and Love is the only way,

any other thing will interfere with the spontaneous unfolding

of the Universe.

Who are we to know what is the best way of unfolding?

It is the way that is happening now.

The exacerbation of conflicts, the ruthless profit making,

the egocentric attitude more and more going to extremes

are probably the way IT seeks itself.

Many realised being of the modern world have reached enlightenment

only after a profound crisis of depression or the like.

So it seems that the evolotion of Consciousenss,

if we can speak of evolution, is going through the 'extremization'

of polarities to reach its 'goal'.

This universe is made through polarities,

it wouldn't exist otherwise.

Avasa, my friend and teacher of Advaita

answering to a question about Iraq,

was saying that are the people that want peace that create wars.

Why? Because there is a law of equilibrium that rules this universe

and so much 'evil' has to be balanced by so much 'good'

and viceversa.

I don't really like this law, but if it is true, there is nothing that

we can really do but spontaneous unplanned actions,

that will be the only actions that, arising from the whole,

will not interfere with its natural unfolding.

As for myself what I was lead to choose

is realisation of the Self and Love.

That is, I just send love to all

sometimes more specifically to some place on the Earth,

but without the intention to change anything,

that 's quite difficult, but I try.

It is like the Buddhist Metta meditation.

But sometimes Buddhist wants to change things

and I feel it is better not to have even that intention.

The universe knows more than we know

unless we become it.

in love

marifa

-

Michael Bindel

Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:25 PM

THANK YOU

Dear friends in Satsangh

thank you all of you who did care for my message

I felt it like LOVE IN ACTION

as soon as I am ready I will answer thoroughly....

in the meantime

thank you soooo much

love to all of you

michael bindel

TONY AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO DID NOT PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR FEELING

WHATS GOING ON ON OUR PLANET AND WHAT YOU SUGGEST I and we all SHOULD

DO???

YOUR OPINIONS ARE VERY VERY WELCOME

P.S.

Harsha thank you for your advice not to turn on the TV I stopped it one week ago

"unbelievable" for a "responsible" person..... but a relief indeed

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

/join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...