Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Dear Michael, Those images that oppress you can only be dismissed by using them as an occasion of prayer. The evil forces that send them into the ether are foiled by that strategy. If rage and revenge is not the response their energy evaporates like a dirty puddle in the sun. After all, to be prayed for is the last thing that they want but it is what they need, God is good, Best Wishes, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Dearest Mazie while walking the last days - this helps me much - I sent you so much and hoped that somehow this energy which I call LOVE might reach you. I would like to write you more about me - if you want to know it - but I do not want to disturb the group by this "personal history" - which by the way I try thru understanding to get loose of it. So please let me know your emailadress...... In the meantime I want you to know how much I learn thru you and your husbands lifestory. I LOVE YOU even if I never saw you personally may my love reach you somehow...... In the Love for the ONEANDONLY Michael Bindel - "E. J. Shearn" <ejs22_2000 <> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:30 PM Re: Urgent request HARSHA > , "skiplaurel" <vicki@b...> > wrote: > > , "Michael Bindel" > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > > Dearest Eugene, > > > > > > your message is full of understanding/love for my situation..... > > > Tomorrow I will answer you. > > > In the meantime > > > > > > thank you for your understanding..... > > > > > > be embraced hugged and please accept my love too > > > > > > in Grace > > > > > >Dear Michael, > > > > I am not sure how to put this into words, but I will try. I do not > believe that we are meant to achieve deadness to our emotions while > we are living in a body. It is okay to feel. These days I feel lots > of suffering when I see my husband's cancer draining him of life. Is > that so wrong...for me to feel another's pain? I think it is normal. > > > > You know as well as I do that all of life is suffering. The more > compassionate you are, the more you can instinctively agree with > this. It has been easy for me to accept that viewpoint this > lifetime, having lost a child when I was in my thirties. The path > for me has been one of questioning God...how can He allow such > suffering. To let children sicken and die? But they always have and > they always will. > > > > Heaven is a state of awareness where you know that you are one with > everything. Being one with suffering is the transcendent way. Not > so easily done, but it is the Way. It is not for us to rebel against > it but to wake up in the moment and be one with it. > > > > Politics is not the way to enlightenment because it is divided. > Let the world rage on. Our job is to know that we are suffering and > the very knowing is the key to transcending it. > > > > I have bad days, terrible days when my mind forgets all that I just > said. So be it. It doesn't know. All it can do is rail against > anything and everything. And when I wake up a bit, I know that the > long fight to awaken is worth the candle. > > > > Love, Vicki > > Dear Vicki > Thank you. > The heartfelt-ness of your expression-ing is profound in It's depth. > While concepts may are may not be helpful in a given situation, > depending soley on the reader I think, the Source of these words are > unmistakably beyond, yet somehow inclusive of, what they address. > Lover, Loving, Love. > I had a hard time putting that into words too, > but I just hadda. > :-))) > yours truly > Eugene > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2004 Report Share Posted May 22, 2004 Dear Dear Eugene please let me know your email so I can write you more in dephts without disturbing the others.... in love Michael Bindel > > Dear Vicki > Thank you. > The heartfelt-ness of your expression-ing is profound in It's depth. > While concepts may are may not be helpful in a given situation, > depending soley on the reader I think, the Source of these words are > unmistakably beyond, yet somehow inclusive of, what they address. > Lover, Loving, Love. > I had a hard time putting that into words too, > but I just hadda. > :-))) > yours truly > Eugene > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dearest Vicky you are wonderful thank you so much for your feelings.... in love and gratitude to both of you Michael Bindel - "skiplaurel" <vicki <> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:24 PM Re: Urgent request HARSHA > , "Michael Bindel" <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > Dearest Eugene, > > > > your message is full of understanding/love for my situation..... > > Tomorrow I will answer you. > > In the meantime > > > > thank you for your understanding..... > > > > be embraced hugged and please accept my love too > > > > in Grace > > > >Dear Michael, > > I am not sure how to put this into words, but I will try. I do not believe that we are meant to achieve deadness to our emotions while we are living in a body. It is okay to feel. These days I feel lots of suffering when I see my husband's cancer draining him of life. Is that so wrong...for me to feel another's pain? I think it is normal. > > You know as well as I do that all of life is suffering. The more compassionate you are, the more you can instinctively agree with this. It has been easy for me to accept that viewpoint this lifetime, having lost a child when I was in my thirties. The path for me has been one of questioning God...how can He allow such suffering. To let children sicken and die? But they always have and they always will. > > Heaven is a state of awareness where you know that you are one with everything. Being one with suffering is the transcendent way. Not so easily done, but it is the Way. It is not for us to rebel against it but to wake up in the moment and be one with it. > > Politics is not the way to enlightenment because it is divided. Let the world rage on. Our job is to know that we are suffering and the very knowing is the key to transcending it. > > I have bad days, terrible days when my mind forgets all that I just said. So be it. It doesn't know. All it can do is rail against anything and everything. And when I wake up a bit, I know that the long fight to awaken is worth the candle. > > Love, Vicki > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dear Harsha thank you again for your personal information - it helps a lot indeed!!!! I have to accept what you stated....and I do it.... Love om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya michael - Sam Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:29 AM Re: Re: Urgent request HARSHA And love to you Harsha.. - Harsha Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:43 AM RE: Re: Urgent request HARSHA Dear Michael: Mahatama Gandhi never visited Ramanaashram, although many of his followers did. When Ramana Maharshi heard that Gandhiji had been assassinated, Sri Ramana was weeping. The Sage said that people like Gandhiji know beforehand when they are going to pass away but keep quiet and do not create a commotion. Our bodies are made of universal matter that is common to all and so it is natural for us to feel and know the suffering of others. Once I was meditating and saw that the world was such a fragmented place with so many divisions among nations and people of different religions and races. I saw that these divisions are incurable and felt it so deeply that I cried for a long time. That is how things go sometimes. We are the world. Love to all Harsha Michael Bindel [michaelbindel (AT) tiscali (DOT) it] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:24 AMTo: Subject: Re: Re: Urgent request HARSHA Dearest Antoine, why should I offend you? Thank you for your loving understanding! Great help it is indeed - it shows me that "I" am not alone seeing and feeling this turmoil. And I feel myself being graced having "found" Ramana and this group and you Antoine.... Go and plant flowers - the best thing we can do in the outside world...... With all my gratitude and love michael bindel - Antoine Carré Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:47 AM Re: Re: Urgent request HARSHA Michael, I don't have much to say, yet I wanted to let you know I love the way you open your heart. I felt it would not be fair for me to feel so much beauty in the sincerity of your words and not say a word back. So here I am typing back, instead of going to plant a few flowers outside. Thank you for sharing what each one of us feels in a way or another. I think I know why the fire of the turmoil you express will not find fuel here. Sometimes I am presumptuous, hope it won't offend anyone... Turmoil's spreads out much more faster than the wisdom of living the moment. It is easy to spread turmoil. It is hard to cultivate the wisdom of the moment, it can only come from within, some say. I find there is a high level of such cultivation here... A chance there is pain to bring some people back to the moment, and balance the equation. Without pain, I believe it would have been a long time that our race would not be here. Talking for myself now, Michael, you can try to offend me by anything you write. The times I remember I got offended, in retrospective, I was the only cause of feeling that way. May the joy of Shakti gently flow, Antoine/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dear Ombhurbhuva, your loving words helped me. om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Michael Bindel - "ombhurbhuva" <ombhurbhuva <> Friday, May 21, 2004 12:21 AM urgent request HARSHA > Dear Michael, > Those images that oppress you can only be > dismissed by using > them as an occasion of prayer. The evil forces that > send them into the ether > are foiled by that strategy. If rage and revenge is > not the response their > energy evaporates like a dirty puddle in the sun. After > all, to be prayed for > is the last thing that they want but it is what they > need, > > God is good, Best Wishes, Michael. > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Dear Antoine please write me! Thank you..... In gratitude Michael - Antoine Carré Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:47 AM Re: Re: Urgent request HARSHA Michael, I don't have much to say, yet I wanted to let you know I love the way you open your heart. I felt it would not be fair for me to feel so much beauty in the sincerity of your words and not say a word back. So here I am typing back, instead of going to plant a few flowers outside. Thank you for sharing what each one of us feels in a way or another. I think I know why the fire of the turmoil you express will not find fuel here. Sometimes I am presumptuous, hope it won't offend anyone... Turmoil's spreads out much more faster than the wisdom of living the moment. It is easy to spread turmoil. It is hard to cultivate the wisdom of the moment, it can only come from within, some say. I find there is a high level of such cultivation here... A chance there is pain to bring some people back to the moment, and balance the equation. Without pain, I believe it would have been a long time that our race would not be here. Talking for myself now, Michael, you can try to offend me by anything you write. The times I remember I got offended, in retrospective, I was the only cause of feeling that way. May the joy of Shakti gently flow, Antoine - Michael Bindel Dear Harsha,thank you for your loving answer.I recently got a video by email in which you could see how this pooramerican jewish guy berg was decapicated in front of video.... /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 , "Michael Bindel" <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > Dear Harsha, > > thank you for your loving answer. > > I recently got a video by email in which you could see how this poor > american jewish guy berg was decapicated in front of video.... Namaste Michael, Why do you qualify him by religion and nationality? Secondly have you ever seen anyone have their arteries cut without a spray of blood? I believe nothing of what I hear and only half of what I see---my grandfather's advice...........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hi Tony, --- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote: SNIP > I believe nothing of what I hear and only half of > what I see---my > grandfather's advice...........ONS...Tony. > Did your grandfather tell you that he lifted that quote from Benjamin Franklin? Warmest regards, michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 , Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes> wrote: > > I believe nothing of what I hear and only half of > > what I see---my > > grandfather's advice...........ONS...Tony. > > > > Did your grandfather tell you that he lifted that > quote from Benjamin Franklin? > > Warmest regards, > > michael ******************* Dearest Michael, Tony's Grandfather and Benjamin Franklin shared a flat in the old days. Its hard to know who lifted what from whom. :-). Love, Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 , "viorica weissman" <viorica@z...> wrote: > Hi Tony, > > occasional stepping on hot charcoals could be said to be one of these > God's play numberless acts maybe, who can say? > this world is still a place where one can be lynched alive according > to what is one's nationality and religion in the eyes of others; > Antoine is doing a right thing - planting flowers. And those who > leave the world behind in detachment and love and understanding and > strive to know their true identity are said to do the right thing. > vicki Namaste Vicki, Yes I agree but Michael lives in Italy and when the Italian was killed his religion wasn't pointed out. Secondly I think being a westerner in occupied Irak is probably enough reason for some of these violent people, never mind religious affiliations. My problem with the video is that it didn't look right. No arterial blood, fat 'Terrorists', in a strange mish mash of clothes and new white sneakers, a man in army uniform coming into the frame in the corner etc. No doubt he was murdered but by whom? and it looks like he was dead at the beheading. His father blames the usa govt for his death, and it is another cruel mystery from war, the first casualty being truth. Especially a war based on greed and materialism, or isn't that all war? I know its karmic and Ramana says it is just monkeys with better weapons, but one cannot help have compassion for people who are mistreated and oppressed, for no reason other than greed in this life as for example 'Jabba the Hut's' treatment of the Palestinians. All war is about land and food, and greed it seems. We are ruled by the 'Sons of Belial', and their worst crime is the diversion of the ordinary people from the spiritual path---that is their worst crime. However it seems the wars are always going to be with us, like the poor. Injustice is a state of learning and karma, and it never ceases to amaze me how people think the pendulum only swings one way. As Donovan sang many years ago in his song 'The Universal Soldier', he is you and me, and has no name. Or nationality or religion................ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , "viorica weissman" > <viorica@z...> wrote: > > Hi Tony, > > > > occasional stepping on hot charcoals could be said to be one of > these > > Namaste All, I don't think this is an appropriate thread and perhaps I shouldn't have answered Michael, I will not dicuss it further........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Dear Tony, I appreciate your postings and I did tell it.... I followed your advice and Harsha and many others too detach myself from "news" - unbelievable after decades of listening and not being able to change anything in "the world". B u t I did change myself..... So please let me know your opinions..... In respect Michael Bindel - "viorica weissman" <viorica <> Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:12 AM Re: Urgent request HARSHA > Hi Tony, > > occasional stepping on hot charcoals could be said to be one of these > God's play numberless acts maybe, who can say? > this world is still a place where one can be lynched alive according > to what is one's nationality and religion in the eyes of others; > Antoine is doing a right thing - planting flowers. And those who > leave the world behind in detachment and love and understanding and > strive to know their true identity are said to do the right thing. > vicki > > , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote: > > , "Michael Bindel" > > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > > Dear Harsha, > > > > > > thank you for your loving answer. > > > > > > I recently got a video by email in which you could see how this > > poor > > > american jewish guy berg was decapicated in front of video.... > > > > Namaste Michael, > > > > Why do you qualify him by religion and nationality? Secondly have > > you ever seen anyone have their arteries cut without a spray of > > blood? > > I believe nothing of what I hear and only half of what I see---my > > grandfather's advice...........ONS...Tony. > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Dear Eugene, thank you for the lines full of meaning thank you for the love I feel yes - its hell yes - a quantum leap is necessary stillness quit not wanting anything anymore just BEING great to write to you! in deep respect Michael Bindel - "E. J. Shearn" <ejs22_2000 <> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:15 PM Re: Urgent request HARSHA > Hi Michael > Of course, but. > So can we look at this? > You actually are alone in how you feel, > just like I am alone in a red tint I call the color red. > It may help to you commiserate and it may not. > Depends on what you want. > Not to be an A-hole or anything (although I can't really help it) but > do you want to assuage this madness or wake up from it? > I could say something about the fear and suffering really having to > do with your own tendencies toward body identification and the > body/mind's attempt at some form of immortality or continuity for the > organism, and the associate conditioning of, or desire and aversion > to, judgments of any residual good vs. evil or right vs. wrong > polarities - political, moral, spiritual - seemingly splitting > Consciousness in two sides and that somehow one side of which seems > to offer that desire to "be" forever fullfilment and the other > threatens it, if only they/that/we/those would/wouldn't because > should/shoudln't etc... > I don't know if that helps or not or Who needs it. > You see? > And this kind of thing, this moment of "no solution" is loaded > with "stuff" that's great to look at. > But it also seem that at the moment of "impact" or when we are > personaly in the throws of the emotion of it, it's most difficult > (i.e. fearfull) to look directly at one's own mind and see the > thread, but it also seems to be where the most energy is compacted > and the release is most profound. It may just be Michael's time in > the "fire." > Look at the Maharshi story, in a moment of terror, of feeling like he > was dyng, that the identity "popped." > Or Jesus', on the cross going from "Why me" to "into Thine Hands." > I'm not saying looking for a shared concern isn't valuable. > I mean the 12 Step programs are exactly that energy. > Timing or ripeness is everything and "your" ripeness is not yuour > doing or willing. It is Consciousness or The Self that's calling any > shots, if there are any(and to be honest there aren't any causes or > reasons)...but that's a quantum leap I think, to no choice, no will, > no way, no problem no solution, just Is, as It Is. > You see what I mean? > I been thinking about this and it seems to me, that once one becomes > a "seeker", that is if awakening isn't spontaneous, then the final > options are metta-devastation or a Guru for a tiny moment and to be > honest probably both for most of us... > > I could be wrong about that. > > But from my own experience that I can commiserate with you...when all > the righteousness and indignation defenses are lost, when the > projection of pain ceases to go out there is when the horror of being > separate, of being unloving and unlovable and unforgiving and > unforgivable is completely and only my identity and it's just the > pure terror that the horror in the world is my thought, when I want > anything but my thinking and when the terror becomes so complete and > total, that there is nothing left to fear...there never was anything > to fear > I love you Michael > Eugene > > > , "Michael Bindel" > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > Dear Eugene, > > > > thank you for your answer. > > Of course its ultrapersonal for me and of course I reached some > level and > > have to jump again..... > > But it helps somehow to see that I am not completely alone by > seeing feeling > > what I see and feel.... > > > > With love > > > > Michael Bindel > > > > > > - > > "E. J. Shearn" <ejs22_2000> > > <> > > Tuesday, May 18, 2004 7:30 PM > > Re: Urgent request HARSHA > > > > > > > Dear All > > > Michael and Harsha, > > > Thank you > > > I don't have the solution to this madness, although I would say > it is > > > ultra-personal to you Michael or anybody who FEELS Michael or as > him > > > now. But it reminds me, as if it has the same spring like, lotus > > > blossom fragrance of the Buddha's dilema upon leaving the "palace" > > > were he discoved for himself, personaly and directly, mankind's > > > suffering. The sight/sense of which gave him the inspiration and > > > dedication to go sit under the Bhodi Tree until he personally > found > > > the answer within himself...As much as that sucks, being absent > > > solution(?!), I do believe this is some next level, real deal, > depth > > > of inquirey wise and no theory or philosophy can help. > > > anyway that and $2.50 might get you a gallon of gas somewhere :- > ))) > > > thank you > > > Eugene > > > > > > , "harshaimtm" > > > wrote: > > > > Thank you for raising this issue Michaelji. > > > > > > > > We can discuss it and perhaps someone can comment on it as well. > > > > > > > > It seems like no one knows where they came from and no one knows > > > > where they are going. We are not sure where we are either. > > > > > > > > Blessings to the cosmos. > > > > > > > > Love to all > > > > Harsha > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Michael Bindel" > > > > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Harsha, > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your loving answer. > > > > > > > > > > I recently got a video by email in which you could see how > this > > > > poor > > > > > american jewish guy berg was decapicated in front of > video.... > > > > > It was transmitted by american TV without stating that he > too - > > > > like the > > > > > Perl - was jewish. He had a israeli entry visa mark in his > > > > passport. > > > > > I got a very interesting notice about how the spiritual war > > > between > > > > > "christians" and "muslims" in growing day by day and how "the" > > > > muslim are > > > > > winning it. > > > > > There is talk about the "end of the days" in so many not > always > > > > stupid > > > > > website - christian, fundamentilist, islamists and so on... > > > > > Besides dear friend/s being myself not sooo stupid to believe > > > > everything, > > > > > but I feel whats right or wrong. And I wondered why this > theme is > > > > not > > > > > discussed at all in our satsang. > > > > > As I did not want to disturb anybody I did send you all this > > > stuff > > > > for > > > > > checking it. Was waiting for your reply what you are feeling > > > about > > > > all this > > > > > ongoing turmoil....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not trust my mind too much so my finding and loving > Ramana > > > > and trying > > > > > to live accordingly did lead me a long way > > > > > and "funningly" some days ago I "recognized" that "I" feel to > > > > be "sucked > > > > > inwards" into the Self by my relentless love and effort to > find > > > > GD in > > > > > myself and to live accordingly. > > > > > Of course all this could be a minds play with "myself". But I > > > > have learned > > > > > in this life already to "feel" whats authentic and whats not. > > > > This gift > > > > > helped me never to fall in the trap of a "Guru". > > > > > All my spiritual "achievements" sri for this stupid word > came > > > by > > > > myself, > > > > > without reading a book. And I had all the possibilites to get > > > > books before > > > > > "my" discoveries. > > > > > > > > > > And now I do not understand how people all around the Globe > have > > > > no idea > > > > > whats going on on our planet. > > > > > > > > > > Having found Ramana I do not need anything else but my > curious > > > > mind or my > > > > > sentimentality or intellectuality is striving for answers > why > > > > why > > > > > why...... > > > > > > > > > > So that is my question > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sangha do not be disturbed for me or my Ego or for > whoever > > > > this are > > > > > troubling fundamental questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with compassion and all respect to all of you with love > > > > > > > > > > michael bindel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Dear Branwell, I do not know a better solution than to stick to the SELF to absorb this mind in the SELF thank you again for your advice! Michael - "Branwell McClory" <branwell1 <> Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:21 PM Re: Re: Urgent request HARSHA > Michael, > > You ask why, why, why ?. > > Here is a snip of something that came off another list. Its nothing new, > its nothing we don't already know, but I think it sums things up pretty wall. > > ///////// > >> Heaven and hell only exist within your mind. > ///////// > > The bottom line is this: > Every memory you can have happens in your mind. > Every thought you have happens in your mind. > Every emotion you can have is in your mind. > Every sense perception you can have is registered in the mind. > Every concept you can come up with is in your mind. > > All concepts, regardless of where they appear to come from can only be > known in your mind. > Any concept of God, of Enlightenment, of Joy, of Suffering, they are all > only in your mind. > They are all objects appearing in your mind. > > When one starts to identify with the activity of the mind, a conceptual > identity develops and being conceptual, and living in a conceptual world, > i.e. in the mind, any number of conceptual things can happen and be great > or horrible depending on other concepts. > > Welcome to the conceptual world. > > Its because of misidentification that peoples can hate, can kill. Its > because for most, there is no foundation, nothing solid. There is no common > ground from which to reference from. > It because in the conceptual world, there is a constant hunger for some > unknown thing that will make everything OK. Its because in the conceptual > world, we are trying to defend what we think we have gained, what we think > makes us happy, without the knowledge that its only in our heads. > > Wars happen because people don't realize that heaven and hell only exists > within the mind. > > The best course of action, like we can actually direct anything :-), is > to do what we can to take our forms beyond help so that we can help others > beyond help..........but you already knew that..... > > Branwell > > > > At 09:42 AM 5/18/2004, you wrote: > >Dear Harsha, > > > >thank you for your loving answer. > > > >I recently got a video by email in which you could see how this poor > >american jewish guy berg was decapicated in front of video.... > >It was transmitted by american TV without stating that he too - like the > >Perl - was jewish. He had a israeli entry visa mark in his passport. > >I got a very interesting notice about how the spiritual war between > >"christians" and "muslims" in growing day by day and how "the" muslim are > >winning it. > >There is talk about the "end of the days" in so many not always stupid > >website - christian, fundamentilist, islamists and so on... > >Besides dear friend/s being myself not sooo stupid to believe everything, > >but I feel whats right or wrong. And I wondered why this theme is not > >discussed at all in our satsang. > >As I did not want to disturb anybody I did send you all this stuff for > >checking it. Was waiting for your reply what you are feeling about all this > >ongoing turmoil....... > > > > > >I do not trust my mind too much so my finding and loving Ramana and trying > >to live accordingly did lead me a long way > >and "funningly" some days ago I "recognized" that "I" feel to be "sucked > >inwards" into the Self by my relentless love and effort to find GD in > >myself and to live accordingly. > >Of course all this could be a minds play with "myself". But I have learned > >in this life already to "feel" whats authentic and whats not. This gift > >helped me never to fall in the trap of a "Guru". > >All my spiritual "achievements" sri for this stupid word came by myself, > >without reading a book. And I had all the possibilites to get books before > >"my" discoveries. > > > >And now I do not understand how people all around the Globe have no idea > >whats going on on our planet. > > > >Having found Ramana I do not need anything else but my curious mind or my > >sentimentality or intellectuality is striving for answers why why > >why...... > > > >So that is my question > > > >Dear Sangha do not be disturbed for me or my Ego or for whoever this are > >troubling fundamental questions > > > > > >with compassion and all respect to all of you with love > > > >michael bindel > > > >- > >"harshaimtm" > ><> > >Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:18 PM > > Re: Urgent request HARSHA > > > > > > > Dear Michael: > > > > > > I have not received anything from you recently that I recall. I do > > > owe SamP a reply but that's all that comes to mind. I might have > > > missed it as I have a couple of different accounts but I check my > > > as well as my cox account for your e-mail after I saw this. > > > > > > As far as advice goes Michael, I honestly don't know what advice I > > > could give. Can you share what is on your mind so that the > > > collective wisdom of the sangha can help. That may be more valuable > > > to you. > > > > > > Love, > > > Harsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Michael Bindel" > > > <michaelbindel@t...> wrote: > > > > Dear Harsha > > > > > > > > days ago I sent you to your personal mailadress a letter and asked > > > you for > > > > your advice - which I appreciate to get. > > > > Till today I did not receive any answer..... > > > > > > > > Please let me know why.... > > > > > > > > > > > > with due respect > > > > > > > > michael bindel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > > > > Sri Ramana > > > > > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >/join > > > > > > > > > > > >"Love itself is the actual form of God." > > > >Sri Ramana > > > >In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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