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This was one I saved and ran across just now.

Bobby G.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

 

Excerpts from Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharishi

 

The sannyasi visitor, Swami Lokesananda, asked about

samadhi.

 

B. 1, Holding on to Reality (not maya) is Samadhi

 

2. Holding onto samadhi with effort is savikalpa samadhi.

 

3. Merging in Reality and remaining unaware of the world is

Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

 

4. Merging in ignorance and remaining unaware of the world

is sleep.

 

5. Remaining in Primal, Pure, Natural State without effort is

Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

 

Sleep

1. mind alive

2. sunk in oblivion

 

 

Kevala

1. mind alive

2. sunk in light

3. like a bucket with a rope left lying in the water in the well.

4. to be drawn out by the other end of the rope

 

Sahaja

1. mind dead

2. resolved into the Self

3. Like a river discharged into the ocean and it's identity lost.

4. A river cannot be redirected from the ocean.

 

The old gentleman asked Bhagavan whether it was not

necessary to go through nirvikalpa samadhi first before attaining

to sahaja samadhi . Bhagavan replied: "When we have

tendancies that we are trying to give up, that is to say when we

are still imperfect and have to make conscious efforts to keep

the mind one-pointed or free from thought, the thoughtless state

which we thus attain is nirvikalpa samadhi. When through

practice we are always in that state not going into samadhi and

coming out again, that is the sahaja state. In sahaja one sees

the only Self and sees the world as a form assumed by the Self.

 

 

People are afraid that when the ego or the mind is killed, the

result may be a mere blank and not happiness. What really

happens is that the thinker, the object of thought and thinking all

merge in the one Source which is Consciousness and Bliss

itself, and thus that state is neither inert nor blank. I don't

understand why people should be afraid of a state in which all

thoughts cease to exist and the mind is killed. They experience it

daily in deep sleep. There is no mind or thought in deep sleep.

Yet when one rises from sleep one says, "I slept well".

 

Moreover, in sleep they surrender the ego in order to lapse into a

mere blank, whereas Realization is merging into Pure

Consciousness which is the uttermost Bliss....

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Hi Bob

 

thanks a lot for this posting....

 

Michael Bindel

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 6:57 PM

Repost from Meditation Society

 

> This was one I saved and ran across just now.

> Bobby G.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

>

> Excerpts from Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharishi

>

> The sannyasi visitor, Swami Lokesananda, asked about

> samadhi.

>

> B. 1, Holding on to Reality (not maya) is Samadhi

>

> 2. Holding onto samadhi with effort is savikalpa samadhi.

>

> 3. Merging in Reality and remaining unaware of the world is

> Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> 4. Merging in ignorance and remaining unaware of the world

> is sleep.

>

> 5. Remaining in Primal, Pure, Natural State without effort is

> Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

>

> Sleep

> 1. mind alive

> 2. sunk in oblivion

>

>

> Kevala

> 1. mind alive

> 2. sunk in light

> 3. like a bucket with a rope left lying in the water in the well.

> 4. to be drawn out by the other end of the rope

>

> Sahaja

> 1. mind dead

> 2. resolved into the Self

> 3. Like a river discharged into the ocean and it's identity lost.

> 4. A river cannot be redirected from the ocean.

>

> The old gentleman asked Bhagavan whether it was not

> necessary to go through nirvikalpa samadhi first before attaining

> to sahaja samadhi . Bhagavan replied: "When we have

> tendancies that we are trying to give up, that is to say when we

> are still imperfect and have to make conscious efforts to keep

> the mind one-pointed or free from thought, the thoughtless state

> which we thus attain is nirvikalpa samadhi. When through

> practice we are always in that state not going into samadhi and

> coming out again, that is the sahaja state. In sahaja one sees

> the only Self and sees the world as a form assumed by the Self.

>

>

> People are afraid that when the ego or the mind is killed, the

> result may be a mere blank and not happiness. What really

> happens is that the thinker, the object of thought and thinking all

> merge in the one Source which is Consciousness and Bliss

> itself, and thus that state is neither inert nor blank. I don't

> understand why people should be afraid of a state in which all

> thoughts cease to exist and the mind is killed. They experience it

> daily in deep sleep. There is no mind or thought in deep sleep.

> Yet when one rises from sleep one says, "I slept well".

>

> Moreover, in sleep they surrender the ego in order to lapse into a

> mere blank, whereas Realization is merging into Pure

> Consciousness which is the uttermost Bliss....

/join

>

>

>

>

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

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