Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 How can the Anandamaya Kosha be visualized? Is there somewhere a meditation procedure for vizualisation of the Anandamaya Kosha? Alexandra Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 , alexandra_108 <alexandra_108> wrote: > How can the Anandamaya Kosha be visualized? > Is there somewhere a meditation procedure for vizualisation of the Anandamaya Kosha? > > Alexandra Namaste A, It can take any form you wish it to..........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Yes. I have some old books that actually give pictures of it. I'll try to dig them up over the weekend. --Greg At 04:06 PM 5/28/2004 +0000, Tony OClery wrote: --- In , alexandra_108 <alexandra_108> wrote: > How can the Anandamaya Kosha be visualized? > Is there somewhere a meditation procedure for vizualisation of the Anandamaya Kosha? > > Alexandra Namaste A, It can take any form you wish it to..........ONS...Tony. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor / Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Possibly I can get them somewhere. AlexandraGregory Goode <goode (AT) DPW (DOT) COM> wrote: Yes. I have some old books that actually give pictures of it. I'll try to dig them up over the weekend.--GregAt 04:06 PM 5/28/2004 +0000, Tony OClery wrote: , alexandra_108 <alexandra_108> wrote:> How can the Anandamaya Kosha be visualized?> Is there somewhere a meditation procedure for vizualisation of the Anandamaya Kosha?> > AlexandraNamaste A,It can take any form you wish it to..........ONS...Tony./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Sponsor Links / To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Dear One, Anandamaya kosha is not a thing to visualize but to experience. Each and every one experiences Ananda of some sort in their life - either externally or internalyl. Our beings are coveres with five koshas or sheaths (Layers). Kosha means covering or veil. Physical - Annamaya kosha Energy - Pranamaya kosha Mental - Manamaya kosha Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha Bliss - Anandamaya kosha Self - Atman If you draw a circle it will be something like this; with Atma- self at the center and then subsequent veils. Until all theveils are removed, one cannot experience theSelf. (((Self )))Anandamaya)))Vijnanmaya)))Manomay)))Pranamaya)))Physical)) People practising yogas usually mistake the anadamaya kosha as satchidannada - the ultimate bliss and that is where people get stuck. The bliss generated thru any yoga practise or any mystic experiences are nothing but intoxications generated due to physiological changes and secration of certain biochemicals in the brain. Even simple pranayam can produce the euphoric feeling of ananda. Hence anandamaya kosha is also put in a catagorty of the kosha - veil. Most of the people get stuck in that blissful addiction - it is not different than someone blissfully forgets everything when s/he is after some desires or finding the objects of liking or habitual behaviour - like people getting addicted to doing good deeds or singing, running, yoga practises, visualizations and list can go on and on. People forget their surroungins and pain and such. It works as an anesthetics bringing the numbness in awareness. Most of the people on the spiritual path get stuck at this level and become ardent practitioners becuase it is an addiction and if they do not get their fix, they get agitated. All these are nothing but ego trips. Outwardsly it may appear that those people are self realized and one with soul and all of which defines moksha. That also explains the behaviour of some yogis living permanantly in solitude and not willing to face the relative (manifested) world - of which they are supposed to be integral part - as it facilitates the act of getting intoxicated. Anandamaya kosha is the last one to go and the most difficult to remove as the subtle addition is so eluding that one takes it as the final realization. It is only when one gets out of that blissfull veil or addiction, one starts remembering one's try nature and awareness of pure "I" dawns. I hope this helps. , alexandra_108 <alexandra_108> wrote: > How can the Anandamaya Kosha be visualized? > Is there somewhere a meditation procedure for vizualisation of the Anandamaya Kosha? > > Alexandra > > > > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 , "radhika1728" <radhika1728> wrote: > Dear One, > > Anandamaya kosha is not a thing to visualize but to experience. Each > and every one experiences Ananda of some sort in their life - either > externally or internalyl. Our beings are coveres with five koshas or > sheaths (Layers). Kosha means covering or veil. > > Physical - Annamaya kosha > Energy - Pranamaya kosha > Mental - Manamaya kosha > Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha > Bliss - Anandamaya kosha > Self - Atman > > If you draw a circle it will be something like this; with Atma- self > at the center and then subsequent veils. Until all theveils are > removed, one cannot experience theSelf. > > (((Self )))Anandamaya)))Vijnanmaya)))Manomay)))Pranamaya))) Physical)) > > > People practising yogas usually mistake the anadamaya kosha as > satchidannada - the ultimate bliss and that is where people get > stuck. The bliss generated thru any yoga practise or any mystic > experiences are nothing but intoxications generated due to > physiological changes and secration of certain biochemicals in the > brain. Even simple pranayam can produce the euphoric feeling of > ananda. Hence anandamaya kosha is also put in a catagorty of the > kosha - veil. Namaste, Yes it is said Bliss is the last obstacle to realisation, even the Devas take birth to escape their happiness..........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 I have two diagrams in PDF format that I can send if anyone is interested. A simple one and a very complex one. I'd put them on a website but I can't ftp from here. --Greg At 05:42 PM 5/28/2004 +0000, radhika1728 wrote: >Dear One, > >Anandamaya kosha is not a thing to visualize but to experience. Each >and every one experiences Ananda of some sort in their life - either >externally or internalyl. Our beings are coveres with five koshas or >sheaths (Layers). Kosha means covering or veil. > >Physical - Annamaya kosha >Energy - Pranamaya kosha >Mental - Manamaya kosha >Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha >Bliss - Anandamaya kosha >Self - Atman .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Yes, Indeed. It is the Anandamaya kosha which enebles Jiva (embodied soul) from one life to another to satisfy the desire of enjoyments. This very thing creates the samskaras (impressions) towards certain inclination. As mentioned in Gita "When the wind carrries the fragrance, from one place to another, so does the samskaras - subtle body along with Atma and from one birth to another" The way to find out whether one is in that trap or not - by constantly changing daily routine, behaviour, likings, food, company that we like to associate or avoid or things we like to do. One must not forget that dislike is also very much part of anandamaya kosha, only as a negative pole. Dislike or avoidance of certain elements is in itself an addiction. Most of us have noticed that we spend so much energy to avoid the things which we dislike and hence it is a hang-up. > > Namaste, > > Yes it is said Bliss is the last obstacle to realisation, even the > Devas take birth to escape their happiness..........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 , "radhika1728" <radhika1728> wrote: > Yes, Indeed. > > It is the Anandamaya kosha which enebles Jiva (embodied soul) from > one life to another to satisfy the desire of enjoyments. This very > thing creates the samskaras (impressions) towards certain > inclination. As mentioned in Gita "When the wind carrries the > fragrance, from one place to another, so does the samskaras - subtle > body along with Atma and from one birth to another" > > The way to find out whether one is in that trap or not - by > constantly changing daily routine, behaviour, likings, food, company > that we like to associate or avoid or things we like to do. > > One must not forget that dislike is also very much part of anandamaya > kosha, only as a negative pole. Dislike or avoidance of certain > elements is in itself an addiction. Most of us have noticed that we > spend so much energy to avoid the things which we dislike and hence > it is a hang-up. Namaste, Yes aversion is reverse attachment. The Devas have to lose the anandamya kosa to become realised, for it is living in the brahma loka..............ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 AlexandraGregory Goode <goode (AT) DPW (DOT) COM> wrote: I have two diagrams in PDF format that I can send if anyone is interested. A simple one and a very complex one. I'd put them on a website but I can't ftp from here.--GregAt 05:42 PM 5/28/2004 +0000, radhika1728 wrote:>Dear One, >>Anandamaya kosha is not a thing to visualize but to experience. Each >and every one experiences Ananda of some sort in their life - either >externally or internalyl. Our beings are coveres with five koshas or >sheaths (Layers). Kosha means covering or veil. >>Physical - Annamaya kosha >Energy - Pranamaya kosha >Mental - Manamaya kosha >Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha >Bliss - Anandamaya kosha >Self - Atman ... /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Hi Radhika, When you write "It is the Anandamaya kosha which enebles Jiva (embodied soul) from one life to another to satisfy the desire of enjoyments." you seem to be talking about re-incarnation. Is re-incarnation something which you can actually see, in the sense of actually experience, now. Or is it something which, while you cannot experience it at will, you have experienced with great clarity at some previous time? Or is it a quotation of what eminent spiritual teachers, in the Hindu tradition, assert? Regards Warwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2004 Report Share Posted May 28, 2004 Dear Gregory please send me both thank you all the best Michael Bindel - "Gregory Goode" <goode <> Friday, May 28, 2004 8:08 PM Re: Re: Anandamaya Kosha > I have two diagrams in PDF format that I can send if anyone is interested. A simple one and a very complex one. I'd put them on a website but I can't ftp from here. > > --Greg > > At 05:42 PM 5/28/2004 +0000, radhika1728 wrote: > >Dear One, > > > >Anandamaya kosha is not a thing to visualize but to experience. Each > >and every one experiences Ananda of some sort in their life - either > >externally or internalyl. Our beings are coveres with five koshas or > >sheaths (Layers). Kosha means covering or veil. > > > >Physical - Annamaya kosha > >Energy - Pranamaya kosha > >Mental - Manamaya kosha > >Wisdom - Vijnanamaya kosha > >Bliss - Anandamaya kosha > >Self - Atman > > ... > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Initially, it was in words alone thru the gurus. since, i am a scientist myself, I did not believe immediately until it was clear in my conscious and thru verifications over a period of several years. One can purify the mind to an extent that all the previous samskaras can be seen very clearly. in my case, there are several tendencies which i personally do not like and how is it that come about?? every effect has a cause and since we cannot see the previous existant, it does not mean it does not exist. if one sees the fruit (effect), there has to be a seed (cause) somewhere. Law of physics applies very precisely to our own living existance as much as it works for the non-living existant. Alaya Vignana sadhana traces back to origin. By contemplating on one's own being, the entire existant can be seen clearly. Normally, the human-beings live in future alone and we do not live in the moment, we have forgotten how to see the past which is ever menifested thru our own behaviours including mind and ego. Of course, i don't mean to hang onto past. However, it can be argued both ways, whether re-incarnation exists or not. Though i have been born in hindu faith, i personally do not belong to any religion. To me all world religions are the words in books and kinda robotic and cultural conditioning. However, some very scientific teachings exist in Sankhya, jain and buddhist tradition. I have tested the validity of them thru the current scientific advancement as well. Plus, one's own search never ends until the existance of entire universe become very clear. So, i am a novice on the path. I don't know whether it answers your question or not. , "Warwick Wakefield" <formandsubstance@t...> wrote: > Hi Radhika, > > When you write > "It is the Anandamaya kosha which enebles Jiva (embodied soul) from > one life to another to satisfy the desire of enjoyments." > you seem to be talking about re-incarnation. > > Is re-incarnation something which you can actually see, > in the sense of actually experience, now. > > Or is it something which, while you cannot experience it at will, > you have experienced with great clarity at some previous time? > > Or is it a quotation of what eminent spiritual teachers, > in the Hindu tradition, assert? > > Regards > > Warwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 - radhika1728 Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:00 PM Re: Anandamaya Kosha Initially, it was in words alone thru the gurus. since, i am a scientist myself, I did not believe immediately until it was clear in my conscious and thru verifications over a period of several years. One can purify the mind to an extent that all the previous samskaras can be seen very clearly. in my case, there are several tendencies which i personally do not like and how is it that come about?? every effect has a cause and since we cannot see the previous existant, it does not mean it does not exist. if one sees the fruit (effect), there has to be a seed (cause) somewhere. Law of physics applies very precisely to our own living existance as much as it works for the non-living existant. Alaya Vignana sadhana traces back to origin. By contemplating on one's own being, the entire existant can be seen clearly. Normally, the human-beings live in future alone and we do not live in the moment, we have forgotten how to see the past which is ever menifested thru our own behaviours including mind and ego. Of course, i don't mean to hang onto past. However, it can be argued both ways, whether re-incarnation exists or not. Though i have been born in hindu faith, i personally do not belong to any religion. To me all world religions are the words in books and kinda robotic and cultural conditioning. However, some very scientific teachings exist in Sankhya, jain and buddhist tradition. I have tested the validity of them thru the current scientific advancement as well. Plus, one's own search never ends until the existance of entire universe become very clear. So, i am a novice on the path. I don't know whether it answers your question or not. Dear Radhika Thank you for this lengthy and comprehensive answer. I am not sure that I understand everything you wrote, but it does seem clear that you are not at all rigid or dogmatic. Much love Warwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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