Guest guest Posted May 21, 2004 Report Share Posted May 21, 2004 markwotter704 [markotter] Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:15 PM NondualitySalon [NDS] Re: "can the Self be known?" but... I like this concept as well, but for me it is yet a concept. I've heard many times the question of what is there in deep sleep and is it there during other states of mind? (not sure I said that well, but hopefully the question comes across...) I have looked to the extent of my ability to do so, but I, in my waking state, have no report to give on what is there in deep sleep. ***************************************** That is a key question Mark. If you can stay with this inquiry, you should do so. Yes, what is there during deep sleep that is present now? The Self, although it is beyond both the conscious and the unconscious, is not unconscious to It Self. Certainly, the Self cannot be known as an object as it is the very innermost subject. But to say that it is unknowable is a mistake. It Knows It Self fully without the medium of the mind. Its very nature, Self-Nature being that of Pure Existence/Awareness-Knowledge-Bliss. That is the very best expression through the mind. I am the Self, Self-Knowing. Sat-Chit-Ananda is my nature manifesting through the mind! Beyond that I am unknowable and unknown. Who can know Me, except by Knowing their own Self? Knowing the Self, one becomes the Self, so the questions of it being knowable or unknowable become completely irrelevant. >From the perspective of the mind, however, know that Self is both knowable and unknowable. The belief that the Self is unknowable invites one to sleep. The belief that it is knowable invites one to understand the nature of true wakefulness. When Buddha realized, the Buddha did not say, "I am now fully asleep, oh how good it feels!". The Buddha said "I am Awake". Know this difference clearly. Love to all Harsha /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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