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, vvs@a... wrote:

> When the consciousness attains the waking state, the first thought

in it is

> "I am"(some call it EGO"). It is very powerful and It attaches to

some

> subsequent thoughts which involve either a fear or a desire . Fear

and desire are for

> the well-being of the body or mind..This makes a memory. If a

thought is not

> attached to by the Ego, then it does not become a memory. Duration

of the

> memory remains as long as the ego is present.

> During the dream state mind and ego are present. During the deep

sleep state,

> the ego and mind are absent.

> VVS

 

Namaste,

 

My own experience, occasionally, is kind of looking at my

surroundings as a blank. Until the thought 'where am I' arises, then

I know that I am in bed at home............ONS...Tony.

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, vvs@a... wrote:

> When the consciousness attains the waking state, the first thought

in it is

> "I am"(some call it EGO"). It is very powerful and It attaches to

some

> subsequent thoughts which involve either a fear or a desire . Fear

and desire are for

> the well-being of the body or mind..This makes a memory. If a

thought is not

> attached to by the Ego, then it does not become a memory. Duration

of the

> memory remains as long as the ego is present.

> During the dream state mind and ego are present. During the deep

sleep state,

> the ego and mind are absent.

> VVS

 

I agree with your broad strokes WS.

In addition these ideas may be useful.

 

In Book One of Yoga Sutra, Patanjali starts with the Fluctuations of

Consciousness (individual thoughts and sleep):

valid cognition, misconception, conceptualisation (fantasy), sleep,

and memory. He says they may be afflicted or non-afflicted.

 

Book Two he starts with the Afflictions: ignorance (which also

causes the other afflictions), I-am-ness,attachment, aversion, the

will to live. Ignorance as defined here is the inate belief in a

false self, the attribution of that which is the pure Self to that

which is Non-Self (ephemeral).

 

If a valid perception, or any of the fluctuations, is caused by one

of these afflictions then it is tainted by coloration. To erase

coloration is the goal of Yoga Sutra. Ironically this is called

Selflessness. The study of the categories of

thought (fluctuations) and the root cause of their production (the

afflictions) in oneself as an everyday mental attitude is part of the

study of Raja Yoga.

 

Love

Bobby G.

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