Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dear Harshaji and other Friends, I read with interest the various ideas and conclusions and convictions expressed by the committed members of the Satsangh. It is really touching to see so many of the members involving themselves in sharing their knowledge and experience. As regards Kundalini, there is vast literature available about it in several languages, I understand, but most of it in Sanskrit. Kundalini is a part of the Tantric system of Yoga. Raja Yoga deals with it extensively. However, the practices leading to the arousal of the Kundalini have caused more harm than good in the practitioners. The cause is not any shortcoming in the system itself but in the ineptitude of the guides, many of whom have only a shallow, superficial knowledge of the subject and an ersatz perception of the implications of even slight errors in the practices. They are more enamoured of the label of "Guru" than they are aware of the dynamite they are trying to handle, little knowing its devastating potential. I have personally witnessed at least two cases where great physical and mental damage was caused by imperfect practice of Kundalini Yoga. In one case, about forty years ago, an aspirant (I shall call him BS for the sake of reference) learnt this Yoga from a 'Master', who claimed to have learnt the Yoga from an adept in the Himalayas and to have perfected it. The aspirant assiduously practised the exercises as per the procedure taught by his 'Guru'. Within about a year he went mad. About ten years after this catastrophe, he died a miserable death. He was on the wrong side of forty at that time. His was a poor family. At the time of the disaster, he was eking out a small living out of a sort of low type job as he was not highly qualified. One can well imagine the plight of the subject's family. The other case pertained to one of my colleagues in a Bank in Madras, India. This case requires a detailed treatment. For the sake of reference let me call him RJP. He was a serious seeker at that time. He tried to land upon a Guru by trying all and sundry. Once he was introduced by one of his friends to a person who claimed knowledge of the Kundalini Yoga and also some psychical powers like astral travelling, clairvoyance, clairaudience, thought-reading, telekinesis, etc. The 'Guru' asked RJP to meet him on a New Moon Day when he would initiate him into a suitable exercise. On the appointed day, RJP religiously went to meet the 'Mentor'. He initiated him in the art of Astral Travel with some exercises in Pranayama and Meditation, saying that it was an elementary practice and that it was indicated for beginners like RJP. Sincerely following the instructions of the 'Guru', RJP found himself floating at an unimaginable altitude over the earth. Everything was clearly visible even from that astronomical altitude, yet there was no lack of clarity of vision. This took some one-and-half hours. The 'Guru' asked RJP to go to him again on the next New Moon Day. However, as ill-luck would have it, for no apparent reason, RJP developed serious complications in the spine. He could not sit, bend, or lift even small weights. Any movement was excruciatingly painful. The expression of agony became a permanent fixture on his face.He thoroughly failed to connect his astral travel to this plight. He took medical treatment of a very painful nature which, however, failed to give him the much-needed respite from the agony. ..I came in contact with him when he was transferred to my office on his request as his residence was near that office. The moment I set eyes on him, I felt that that was a psychical problem. It took me hours of sympathetic but dogged efforts to draw him out (RJP was a very reticent person and had been quite headstrong on account of what he considered his intellectual prowess and consequent temporal and spiritual achievements.) and make him give me all the facts of the case, which he did in uneven instalments, in bits and pieces. I patched up the story and understood it in perspective. I consulted my brother and another senior friend both of whom were adepts in spirituality and had a fund of knowledge of things spiritual and psychical apart from being practitioners of a system of psychical healing. After much persuasion, RJP condescended to place his case before the two adepts. Still, he was procrastinating much to my annoyance. Then a strange thing happened. One fine day, RJP had a dream in which he found himself in my home in the company of myself, my two brothers including the adept, and another distinguished-looking saint-like person whose identity was not known to him. A yagnya (fire worship and sacrifice) was being performed which he attended in the dream. Indeed, a fire worship was being performed in my home once every month. I had not told him about it and he had no means of knowing about it. Upon hearing about his dream ( or could it have been a vision?), we concluded that it was a godsend. He told me about the dream and asked me if it was true that such a ritual was being performed in my home. Once I confirmed the event, he had little hesitation in visiting our home, which we suggested he did on the day of the worship. He assented and visited us accordingly. Certain narratives of facts are stranger than fiction. RJP visited us on the day of the worship. The worship took about three hours to finish.He sat through the entire duration though we asked him to lie down comfortably as, after all, he ws a patient with a serious handicap. After a hearty meal, my brother, our senioir friend and myself discussed the case with him at length and in depth. Psychical treatment was agreed upon. The next day when I met him at the office, he told me that after visiting us, he had sat through a music concert that had been going on in an auditorium on the way. The duration had been three hours. A person who could not use his limbs at all had been straining himself so much, and all that unconsciously. He had not been conscious of any pain The psychical treatment went on on a daily basis for some three months. At the end of it, RJP became a very normal person with absolutely no trace of his earlier, pathetic, condition. We drew three conclusions from this incident. 1. One must not irresponsibly dabble in psychical matters which is like playing with RDX. 2. If a person or persons solve our problems of an intractable nature, we must understand that they have the backing of divinity, that it is divinity that has brought us in contact with them for our own benefit. 3. To foolishly estrange ourselves from such benefactors to pander to pur ego will amount to missing the bus, which God in His infinite mercy has offered us. Another chance of a similar nature may come God knows when; or it may not come at all. Another understanding we have got about Kundalini is that when we are practising spirituality (not psychical practices), Kundalini rises automatically, as the mercury in the thermometer rises with rise in temperature. Hence, it need not be taken seriously. Rather, we must bestow more attention on our attitudes and intentions, which are after all the deciding factors in the cosmic analysis. With love to all, Manohar Mohan Narayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 , "MMNarayan" <mmnarayan49> wrote: > Dear Harshaji and other Friends, > > I read with interest the various ideas and conclusions and convictions expressed by the committed members of the Satsangh. > It is really touching to see so many of the members involving themselves in sharing their knowledge and experience. > As regards Kundalini, there is vast literature available about it in several languages, I understand, but most of it in Sanskrit. > Kundalini is a part of the Tantric system of Yoga. Raja Yoga deals with it extensively. Namaste, Too much attention is made to a natural spritual event. K will rise by itself. As Sarada Devi said, it will rise with Japa. Its most obvious manifestations are just prana cleansing the sheaths that's all. If your sheaths aren't that dirty the cleaning will be less obvious and even imperceptible. Even a risen K doesn't bring Moksha, only the Heart can do that. For most people K is an unnecessary attachment to a natural event....ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 , "MMNarayan" <mmnarayan49> wrote: > I read with interest the response to my short (or long ?) attempt to describe the risks involved in dealing with Kundalini, the Serpent Power. > > > > I had given two instances where positive harm had visited the overenthusiastic but unwary practitioners of the Kundalini yoga. Such instances abound but these are not publicised as there is a feeling among the other aspirants that such 'negative' reporting might sully the age-long reputation the system has been enjoying. > > > > Our friend dismisses the rising of the Kundalini as a natural phenomenon. Apparently, he is amply backed by a stray remark of the Holy Mother Sri Sarada Devi (Whose ardent devotee I too am). It is a Namaste, It is a pre occupation with energy and the body. All futile in the end result. For it stops short of realisation. Read Ramana on this as well. The activity is just forcing prana that's all, it is prana cleansing the sheaths. If I had to take a long active time to clean my dirty floor I wouldn't be boasting about it. K is everywhere and is everything, it will rise imperceptibly in its own time. .............Far too much rubbish is written on this subject...............ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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