Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Namaste, 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will move away." Purport:O'Clery. If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste, > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will > move away." > > Purport:O'Clery. > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony. "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the doer... "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i ever" the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their beliefs... wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"? yosy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Dear friends realizing that we are not the doer is LIBERATION necessary for living this truth is giving up everything every wish desire concept clinching likes and dislikes thanks yossi......and all others..... in Sri Ramana Maharshi Michael >"yosyx" <yosyflug (AT) 012 (DOT) net.il> > > > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. >Thu, 08 Jul 2004 01:46:35 -0000 > >--- In , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> >wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one > > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will > > move away." > > > > Purport:O'Clery. > > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony. > >"lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. >liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the >doer... > >"truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i >ever" > >the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, >place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the >symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come >those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their >beliefs... >wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"? > >yosy > MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 - yosyx Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:46 AM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:> Namaste,> > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one> house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will> move away."> > Purport:O'Clery.> > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony."lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated.liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the doer..."truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i ever"the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their beliefs...wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"?yosy a gezund dir in pupik...shmulikl /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 dear schmulik what is pupok? taches??? Michael LOL >Sam <S.Pasiencier (AT) planet (DOT) nl> > > >Re: Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. >Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:09:35 +0200 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > yosyx > > Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:46 AM > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. > > > --- In , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one > > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will > > move away." > > > > Purport:O'Clery. > > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say-it happens......ONS...Tony. > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > doer... > > "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i > ever" > > the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, > place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the > symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come > those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their > beliefs... > wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"? > > yosy > > a gezund dir in pupik...shmulikl > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > b.. To from this group, send an email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 pupik is belly button.. a place for blessing by Yiddishe Mamas thank you fro your interest in these esoteric matters... shmulik - MICHAEL BINDEL Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:41 PM Re: Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. dear schmulik what is pupok? taches??? Michael LOL >Sam <S.Pasiencier (AT) planet (DOT) nl> > > >Re: Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. >Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:09:35 +0200 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > yosyx > > Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:46 AM > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. > > > --- In , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one > > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will > > move away." > > > > Purport:O'Clery. > > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say-it happens......ONS...Tony. > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > doer... > > "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i > ever" > > the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, > place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the > symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come > those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their > beliefs... > wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"? > > yosy > > a gezund dir in pupik...shmulikl > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > / > > b.. To from this group, send an email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote: > , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one > > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will > > move away." > > > > Purport:O'Clery. > > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony. > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > doer... > > "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i > ever" > > the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, > place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the > symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come > those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their > beliefs... > wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"? > > yosy Namaste, As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be hard being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, now go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 - Tony OClery Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:45 PM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote:> , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote:> > Namaste,> > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one> > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will> > move away."> > > > Purport:O'Clery.> > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony.> > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated.> liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > doer...> > "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i > ever"> > the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, > place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the > symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come > those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their > beliefs...> wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"?> > yosyNamaste,As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be hard being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, now go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony. *********************************** One wall, one punch, one hurt. Old argument Tony..put to Bishop Berkeley eons ago. Is it hard being right all the time Tony? Are you not aware of your own cantankerousness? They may be sayings of Jesus, but are used by Tony for whatever his purposes may be. Why should you be dividing people into ordinary and advanced? A bow... Sam /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > - > Tony OClery > > Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:45 PM > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. > > > > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated. > > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > > doer... > > > Namaste, > > As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write > this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as > advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be hard > being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, now > go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony. > > *********************************** > One wall, one punch, one hurt. > > Old argument Tony..put to Bishop Berkeley eons ago. > > Is it hard being right all the time Tony? > > Are you not aware of your own cantankerousness? > > They may be sayings of Jesus, but are used by Tony for whatever his purposes may be. > > Why should you be dividing people into ordinary and advanced? > > A bow... > > Sam Namaste, You are the vndist you tell me..........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Tony you might save your self a lot of trouble if in the future you would preface your posts with the announcement: Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do not read if you are advanced. Sam - Tony OClery Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:45 PM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , "yosyx" <yosyflug@0...> wrote:> , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> > wrote:> > Namaste,> > > > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one> > house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will> > move away."> > > > Purport:O'Clery.> > > > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony.> > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated.> liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > doer...> > "truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i > ever"> > the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, > place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the > symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come > those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their > beliefs...> wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"?> > yosyNamaste,As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be hard being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, now go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony./join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > Tony you might save your self a lot of trouble if in the future you would preface your posts with the announcement: > > Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do not read if you are advanced. > > Sam Namaste, According to Maharaj's formula based on the population of Mumbai, only about 60,000 people on the planet even understand non dualism intellectually never mind realise it. So most on here are probably just like me ---ordinary people............ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Dear friends what is vndist yours ignorant Michael :-----((((( >"Tony OClery" <aoclery > > > > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. >Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:58:34 -0000 > >--- In , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > > > - > > Tony OClery > > To: > > Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:45 PM > > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of >Thomas. > > > > > > > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never >seperated. > > > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is >the > > > doer... > > > > > Namaste, > > > > As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write > > this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as > > advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be >hard > > being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, >now > > go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts >hahahahaha..ONS..Tony. > > > > *********************************** > > One wall, one punch, one hurt. > > > > Old argument Tony..put to Bishop Berkeley eons ago. > > > > Is it hard being right all the time Tony? > > > > Are you not aware of your own cantankerousness? > > > > They may be sayings of Jesus, but are used by Tony for whatever >his purposes may be. > > > > Why should you be dividing people into ordinary and advanced? > > > > A bow... > > > > Sam >Namaste, > >You are the vndist you tell me..........ONS..Tony > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 - Tony OClery Thursday, July 08, 2004 7:58 PM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> > - > Tony OClery > To: > Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:45 PM> Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas.> > > > > "lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated.> > liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the > > doer...> > > Namaste,> > As I have said to you on several occasions I have tried to write > this for ordinary people, or at least for people who are not as > advanced as you are. You are of course right as usual, must be hard > being right all the time? I know that all is one and not two, now > go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony.> > ***********************************> One wall, one punch, one hurt. > > Old argument Tony..put to Bishop Berkeley eons ago. > > Is it hard being right all the time Tony? > > Are you not aware of your own cantankerousness?> > They may be sayings of Jesus, but are used by Tony for whatever his purposes may be. > > Why should you be dividing people into ordinary and advanced?> > A bow...> > SamNamaste,You are the vndist you tell me..........ONS.. weak /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 - Tony OClery Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:05 PM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> Tony you might save your self a lot of trouble if in the future you would preface your posts with the announcement:> > Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do not read if you are advanced. > > SamNamaste,According to Maharaj's formula based on the population of Mumbai, only about 60,000 people on the planet even understand non dualism intellectually never mind realise it. So most on here are probably just like me ---ordinary people............ONS..Tony. In that case maybe you shoudn't be teaching so much.. /join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , "MICHAEL BINDEL" <michael_bindel@h...> wrote: > Namaste. Vndist is short for 'verbal non dualist', the insinuation being that is the extent of their non dualism..........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > - > Tony OClery > > Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:05 PM > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. > > > , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > Tony you might save your self a lot of trouble if in the future > you would preface your posts with the announcement: > > > > Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do > not read if you are advanced. > > > > Sam > > Namaste, > > According to Maharaj's formula based on the population of Mumbai, > only about 60,000 people on the planet even understand non dualism > intellectually never mind realise it. So most on here are probably > just like me ---ordinary people............ONS..Tony. > > In that case maybe you shoudn't be teaching so much.. Namaste, Who said I was teaching? I am giving purports on the Gospel of Thomas and they are only one of a number of purports I could give for each saying. However they can only ever be my opinion. If you don't like it you don't have to read it or respond to it. However if you have a better idea then perhaps you should give purports for the whole hundred odd sayings. I am also giving purports on the Gospel of Matthew afterwards. I know Swami Prabhavananda gave some on part of it, but mine will not be based on his. I may then move on to John and perhaps some of the sayings from Qumran. I'm working on a book about Jesus including the influence of India and his background in the Essenes....You could be really busy---go for your life!!! hahahahahah...........ONS..Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Isn't giving purpots something like teaching?? Good to know that they are only your opinions. You are planning to give a lot of them it seems. You know Tony.. If you used these saying for learning yourself, meditated long and deep on them they might be helpful to you. I know that you also long for truth, that is clear. Patience is a great virtue. Namaste, Sam - Tony OClery Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:07 PM Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> > - > Tony OClery > To: > Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:05 PM> Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas.> > > , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote:> > Tony you might save your self a lot of trouble if in the future > you would preface your posts with the announcement:> > > > Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do > not read if you are advanced. > > > > Sam> > Namaste,> > According to Maharaj's formula based on the population of Mumbai, > only about 60,000 people on the planet even understand non dualism > intellectually never mind realise it. So most on here are probably > just like me ---ordinary people............ONS..Tony.> > In that case maybe you shoudn't be teaching so much..Namaste,Who said I was teaching? I am giving purports on the Gospel of Thomas and they are only one of a number of purports I could give for each saying. However they can only ever be my opinion. If you don't like it you don't have to read it or respond to it. However if you have a better idea then perhaps you should give purports for the whole hundred odd sayings. I am also giving purports on the Gospel of Matthew afterwards. I know Swami Prabhavananda gave some on part of it, but mine will not be based on his. I may then move on to John and perhaps some of the sayings from Qumran. I'm working on a book about Jesus including the influence of India and his background in the Essenes....You could be really busy---go for your life!!! hahahahahah...........ONS..Tony/join "Love itself is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > Isn't giving purpots something like teaching?? > > Good to know that they are only your opinions. You are planning to give a lot of them it seems. > > You know Tony.. If you used these saying for learning yourself, meditated long and deep on them they might be helpful to you. > > I know that you also long for truth, that is clear. Patience is a great virtue. > > Namaste, Sam Namaste, A purport can only be an opinion unless it is by a Juvanmukta or Sadguru. However opinions can lead to insights. I'm sure I can learn from them, one of my most powerful lessons was given by an ant when I was in Australia. I am only sharing what I am doing on here as prasad, if people don't want it then I will stop posting them. Everything is a Guru everything is a teacher.........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote: > , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > Isn't giving purpots something like teaching?? > > > > Good to know that they are only your opinions. You are planning > to give a lot of them it seems. > > > > You know Tony.. If you used these saying for learning yourself, > meditated long and deep on them they might be helpful to you. > > > > I know that you also long for truth, that is clear. Patience is a > great virtue. > > > > Namaste, Sam > > Namaste, > > A purport can only be an opinion unless it is by a Juvanmukta or > Sadguru. However opinions can lead to insights. I'm sure I can learn > from them, one of my most powerful lessons was given by an ant when > I was in Australia. I am only sharing what I am doing on here as > prasad, if people don't want it then I will stop posting them. > Everything is a Guru everything is a teacher.........ONS..Tony. ..........TONY KEEP SHARING.......FWIW I ENJOY YOUR POSTINGS...REFRESHING TAKE ON THE GOSPELS.... LOVE TO ALL MICHAEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do not read if you are advanced <<, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:> Namaste,> > 48) Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in this one> house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move Away,' and it will> move away."> > Purport:O'Clery.> > If the lower self and the Higher Self are united, it is Liberation. > If one is Liberated all power accrues to he that overcomes. It is > said that a Liberated person can only speak and command the truth, > so whatever they say—it happens......ONS...Tony."lower" and "higher" self are illusory, and were never seperated.liberation is only one: freedom from an illusion that one is the doer..."truth", said nasrudin, "is something which i never said - nor will i ever"the problem with the words of the wise, uttered according to time, place and people, is that when they are repeated by the ignorant, the symbolic is taken as literal, the literal as symbolic etc. then come those who purport "to know" and explain it others according to their beliefs...wasn't it jc who said "beware of the blind leading the blind"?yosy SAM: a gezund dir in pupik...shmulikl I know that all is one and not two, now go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony.>> Vous êtes drôle. Vous me faites rire.Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 , Antoine Carré <antoine.carre@s...> wrote: > Attention, the following is written for ordinary people. Please do not read if you are advanced > I know that all is one and not two, now > go out and punch the wall and see if it hurts hahahahaha..ONS..Tony. > >> > > Vous êtes drôle. Vous me faites rire. > Antoine Namaste Antoine, Merci mon ami, essayer c'est drole.............ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2004 Report Share Posted July 9, 2004 Namaste please tell me more about the important lesson you got in Australia thru an ant and please explain to me whats wrong with someone who starts not to identify with his body by evading for a time only of course words like "imine" and so one. I did it myself years ago and it helped.... Of course I now about the wonderful trickster my Ego who can use everything as a trap.... Thanks for your efforts..... in Sri Ramana Maharshi Michael >"Tony OClery" <aoclery > > > > Re: Sayings of Jesus #48--Gospel of Thomas. >Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:36:37 -0000 > >--- In , Sam <S.Pasiencier@p...> wrote: > > Isn't giving purpots something like teaching?? > > > > Good to know that they are only your opinions. You are planning >to give a lot of them it seems. > > > > You know Tony.. If you used these saying for learning yourself, >meditated long and deep on them they might be helpful to you. > > > > I know that you also long for truth, that is clear. Patience is a >great virtue. > > > > Namaste, Sam > >Namaste, > >A purport can only be an opinion unless it is by a Juvanmukta or >Sadguru. However opinions can lead to insights. I'm sure I can learn >from them, one of my most powerful lessons was given by an ant when >I was in Australia. I am only sharing what I am doing on here as >prasad, if people don't want it then I will stop posting them. >Everything is a Guru everything is a teacher.........ONS..Tony. > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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