THOU ART THAT

[Guest guest]

Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and

how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for

Self and the intuition that something lies behind the

personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep

thinking people are fascinated by the nature of

consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not

mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had

become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of

perception and consciousness.

 

So yes, one should do Sadhana. Whatever mode of

practice people brought to Sri Ramana (Japa, Kirtan,

meditation, pranayama, moderation in food), the sage

would encourage them to continue with that. And if one

was (is) a mature yogi, Sri Ramana may look him

directly in the eye and ask, "what is it that you

conceive Sadhana to be?"

 

I conceive Sadhana to be.....I conceive Sadhana to

be......I conceive Sadhana to be..........

 

So the "I" conceives Sadhana to be......can you see

clearly, ...."I" conceives Sadhana to be...What truth

can be expected from this "I" when it goes outwards

and conceptualizes such and such about sadhana.

 

This is why Sri Ramana would often ask, "Who is this

"I" that conceives such and such." Go to the heart of

the matter. Whatever Sadhana you do, who is doing it?

What is the source of this doing?

 

When Ganapati Muni fell to young Ramana's feet and

told him that he had done countless mantras and asked

him the meaning of "Tapas", what did Sri Ramana say?

He said something like... if you watch from where the

mantra arises (as you are doing it) and abide in that,

that is "Tapas".

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, Harsha <harshaimtm>

wrote:

> Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and

> how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for

> Self and the intuition that something lies behind the

> personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep

> thinking people are fascinated by the nature of

> consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not

> mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had

> become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of

> perception and consciousness.

 

Namaste H,

 

Yes once I mentioned the 'Who am I?', of Ramana's to a Sannyasin and

she said that is the truth. However one has to have a certain amount

of mental maturity to have arrived at that point in sadhana. As you

know the bulk of humanity hasn't. One has only to look at the

derogatory commercials on tv re: Meditation and Yogis to see that.

Sitting there 'Who am I ing' would represent a great laugh to the

pig poets...........ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

Is there something that separates us from the "pig poets"?

 

 

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote:

> , Harsha <harshaimtm>

> wrote:

> > Questions come up of Sadhana (spiritual practice) and

> > how to achieve Realization. These show our quest for

> > Self and the intuition that something lies behind the

> > personality. Sri Ramana used to say that all deep

> > thinking people are fascinated by the nature of

> > consciousness. By deep thinking, Sri Ramana did not

> > mean necessarily intellectual people but those who had

> > become aware of the mystery of life, the riddle of

> > perception and consciousness.

>

> Namaste H,

>

> Yes once I mentioned the 'Who am I?', of Ramana's to a Sannyasin and

> she said that is the truth. However one has to have a certain amount

> of mental maturity to have arrived at that point in sadhana. As you

> know the bulk of humanity hasn't. One has only to look at the

> derogatory commercials on tv re: Meditation and Yogis to see that.

> Sitting there 'Who am I ing' would represent a great laugh to the

> pig poets...........ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

, "John Logan"

<johnrloganis> wrote:

> Is there something that separates us from the "pig poets"?

 

Namaste,

 

Pig poets write about enjoying the senses, not spirituality, as

such. So I would hope something separates whilst we are in

delusion.....ONS..Tony.