Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Harsha How interesting, and the Bible says "Be still and know that I am God". And the Diamond Sutra teaches that silence is better than holiness. wai Harsha <harshaimtm > 07/27/2004 12:44 PM Please respond to RamanaMaharshi , ramanamaharshi, atma_vichara cc: [RamanaMaharshi] Awareness is another name for you Once Sri Ramana said the whole truth is contained in "Be Still". So if one is self-aware and still, one has grasped the method. Love to all Harsha ===== /join Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Links RamanaMaharshi/ RamanaMaharshi Attachment: (image/gif) [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear All: different people select different methods and concepts because initially they go by what appeals to their 'minds' (in general isn't it what comes out of mind that appeals to the mind ? ) eventually each one settles with that method/practice/concept which appeals to their 'heart'... (in general isn't it what comes out of heart (including silence) that appeals to the heart ? ) please note 'initially' and 'eventually' are two words in relative terms and hence mean different times for different seekers... uarelove Micheal is correct because I think he does not want others to tread the paths he treaded for 20+ years not reaching anywhere...; perhaps, the force in his statement is coming out of personal conviction and love towards other seekers... Gabriele is correct because I think she does not like/want any kind of force, real or apparent, to be put on devotees who are not yet sure...; perhaps, the senstitivity in her statement is coming out of personal love towards other devotees for, for her, love towards devotees of her Guru is love towards her Guru.. also, if ego is the one that seeks compensation/money for teaching spirituality, isn't it the same ego that denounces such acts ? isn't it the same ego that seeks recognition in teaching others ? isn't it the same ego that has a need to copyright even simple terminologies... I am reminded of the event I read about when Shri. Bhagavan unexpectedly humbled the devotees who were very happy that a 'competing and egoistic Sadhu' was embarassed.. love, Murthy RamanaMaharshi, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote: > Sometimes we see people debating the language and > methodology of Sri Ramana's teaching. The question is > often raised, "What is the purest form of Bhagavan's > teaching"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Sometimes we see people debating the language and methodology of Sri Ramana's teaching. The question is often raised, "What is the purest form of Bhagavan's teaching"? The answer is simple. That form of the teaching is the purest that brings you to Self-Realization. Sri Ramana's teaching is very straight forward and it is all an open secret for everyone to see. Sri Ramana always emphasized that our nature was that of pure consciousness or unbroken awareness that continues regardless of what mental state the mind is in (sleep, dreaming, waking). If we deeply understand this, we have understood the essence of the teaching. All of these terms, self-attention, self-awareness, self-remembrance refer to the same process of the subject turning within to it self, the subject. Self-inquiry focuses the mind on its source and the result is clarity of awareness. Awareness by its very nature is always aware of itself but it is not an object to itself. Sri Ramana used to say that there are not two selves where one self is aware of the second self. Similarly there are not two awareness's. However, through the duality and agency of the perceptual mind, we can say that awareness being aware of itself is a refined and a subtle form of atma vichara. Ultimately, even this duality being that of the mind (that any method necessarily presumes) vanishes as One Awareness shines forth as the Self that is the Heart that the ancients termed Sat-Chit-Ananda. Existence-Consciousness-Bliss. One whole mass without divisions. Once Sri Ramana said the whole truth is contained in "Be Still". So if one is self-aware and still, one has grasped the method. Love to all Harsha ===== /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 RamanaMaharshi, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote: >is contained in > "Be Still". > > So if one is self-aware and still, one has grasped the > method. > > Love to all > Harsha Namaste Harsha et al, 'Be Still', IMO, sounds so simple but there is much more behind the statement. One's mind cannot be still if it is full of vasanas and samskaras out of control. It cannot be still if it is going through the gunas. It can only be a purified Buddhi that is still, for stillness in non creation. So a method of sadhana is necessary to purify otherwise one has an intellectually still mind temporarily but not a truly still mind which is a no mind.........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Samadhi - samaa-dhi Buddhi that is still, equanimous under all circumstances. In His Grace, NagarajaTony OClery <aoclery > wrote: RamanaMaharshi, Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote:>is contained in> "Be Still". > > So if one is self-aware and still, one has grasped the> method.> > Love to all> HarshaNamaste Harsha et al,'Be Still', IMO, sounds so simple but there is much more behind the statement. One's mind cannot be still if it is full of vasanas and samskaras out of control. It cannot be still if it is going through the gunas. It can only be a purified Buddhi that is still, for stillness in non creation. So a method of sadhana is necessary to purify otherwise one has an intellectually still mind temporarily but not a truly still mind which is a no mind.........ONS..Tony.Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 , Harsha <harshaimtm> wrote: sumes) vanishes as One Awareness shines > forth as the Self that is the Heart that the ancients > termed Sat-Chit-Ananda. Existence-Consciousness-Bliss. > One whole mass without divisions. > > Once Sri Ramana said the whole truth is contained in > "Be Still". > > So if one is self-aware and still, one has grasped the > method. > > Love to all > Harsha Namaste Harsha et al, 'Be Still', IMO, sounds so simple but there is much more behind the statement. One's mind cannot be still if it is full of vasanas and samskaras out of control. It cannot be still if it is going through the gunas. It can only be a purified Buddhi that is still, for stillness is non creation. So a method of sadhana is necessary to purify otherwise one has an intellectually still mind temporarily but not a truly still mind which is a no mind.........ONS..Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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