Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Namaste. Radhe-Krishna. Now let us come to the actual story part. Remember Krishna was a ten-year old boy at that time. Probably even less. The Gopis of Brindavan did a month-long Katyayani vrata. The purpose: To get Lord Krishna as their husband (pati, in Sanskrit). The vrata itself was a very complicated one: Bathing in the Yamuna at daybreak, making an image of the Goddess Parvati with sand on the river bank and worshipping Her with all the formalities. It was at the end of this month-long worship, the incident (as described earlier) of the robbing of their clothes by the Lord happened. The Lord chastised them that they had no business to bathe naked in the river, particularly when they were supposed to be engaged in this Katyayani vrata. After telling them that his treatment of them was in punishment of their misbehaviour, he gave them back their clothes; but also promised them that very soon their desire for sporting with the Lord, for which they did the Katyayani vrata, would be fulfilled. And in this context, he makes a very important statement which is significant for our understanding of the Ras Leela: ‘In the case of whomsoever that has turned their minds towards Me, the desire or lust that thereby arises in them would not result in bad, just as a fried or baked seed would not sprout again’ (X -22 – 26): na may-yAveshita-dhiyAM kAmaH kAmAya kalpate / bharjitA kathitA dhAnA prAyo bIjAya neshhyate // Note: Recall that all books of Vedanta tell us how a man of wisdom (Brahma-jnAni) has no karma chasing him, because they are like a fried seed in his case and it will not sprout! The night of that fulfillment arrived in the autumn following. The requisites for the divine play were all created by Him by His mAyA. “yogamAyAm-upAshritaH” (resorting to His yoga-mAyA) says the text (10-29-1). On that moonlit night, His melodious note on His flute, played in the woodlands adjoing the Yamuna, went all the way to the ears of the gopis and enraptured them. It pleasantly distracted every one and everything from normal activity and enchanted them to revel in ecstasy. Even shrubs and trees, flowers and leaves, birds and animals ‘stood enchanted’ with that rapturous divine musical rendering. No sooner the Gopis heard the music of His flute, than they were all captivated by the symphony of joy that emanated from it. They came from all sides to the spot where He was playing the flute. Some were milking their cows, some were serving food to their husbands, some were keeping busy with their cosmetics, some were cleaning their houses, -- but all of them dropped their work just where it was and ran towards Krishna. Their husbands, brothers and parents did try to stop them but of no avail. The minds of the Gopis had been lured away by the music of the flute and by the thought of Lord Krishna and they forgot all about themselves. Some of the gopis, however, could not manage to get out of their houses, and instead they remained home with eyes closed, meditating upon Him in pure love. For these gopis the intolerable separation from their beloved caused an intense agony that burned away all impious karma (“tIvra-pApa-dhutA-shubhAH” – X-29-10). By meditating upon Him they realized His embrace, and the ecstasy they then felt exhausted their material piety. Although Lord Krishna is the Supreme Soul, these girls simply thought of Him as their lover and associated with Him in that intimate mood. Thus their karmic bondage was nullified and they abandoned, as it were, their gross material bodies. At this point, King Parikshit asks a pertinent question to Sage Suka who is narrating the story: O sage, the gopis knew Krishna only as their lover, not as the Supreme Absolute Truth. So how could these girls, their minds caught up in the waves of worldly love, free themselves from material attachment? And the Rishi replies: Since even Sisupala, who hated Krishna, achieved perfection, then what to speak of the Lord’s dear devotees. The Supreme Lord is inexhaustible and immeasurable, and He is untouched by Prakrti because He is its controller. His personal appearance in this world is meant for bestowing the highest benefit on humanity. Persons who constantly direct their lust, anger, fear, protective affection, feeling of impersonal oneness or friendship toward Lord Hari are sure to become absorbed in thought of Him. You should not be so astonished, Oh King, because you are the unique one who had the benefit of seeing His beatific presence even while you were in your mother’s womb. (X-29-13 to 16). Krishna saw them all coming, and when they had gathered, he told them to go back. He waved them back saying that their first duty was in their home with their husbands and relatives. He says: “I know you have ties of attachment for Me. It is but proper. All creatures in the world will find delight in Me (‘prIyante mayi jantavaH’ : X-29-23). But your duty is elsewhere. For a woman from a respectable family, petty adulterous affairs are always condemned. They bar her from heaven, ruin her reputation and bring her difficulty and fear”. And He ends this sermon by making a famous declaration (X-29-27) which He himself repeats later: shravaNAt darshanAt dhyAnAt mayi bhAvo’nukIrtanAt / na tathA sannikarshheNa pratiyAta tato gRhAn // meaning, “Transcendental love for Me arises by the devotional processes of hearing about Me, seeing My Deity form, meditating on Me and faithfully chanting My glories. The same result is not achieved by mere physical proximity. So please go back to your homes”. But the Gopis don’t listen. To his argument that their duty is to their husbands and families, they reply that He is the pati, the husband of the entire world and therefore of them all, and so their first duty is to Him. “Not only that, Oh Lord, our minds which were all along with our families and our work have now been totally captivated by You. Our hands and feet are not ours. Our minds are not ours. They are all yours. They refuse to do any work which is not directed at You. So don’t throw us back. Deign to accept us as your servants”. And they were steadfast in this determination. Seeing their steadfastness, Krishna decided to please them. iti viklavitaM tAsAM shrutvA yogeshvareshvaraH / Prahasya sadayaM gopIH AtmArAmo’pyarIramat // X-29-42 Smiling upon hearing these despondent words from the gopîs, Lord Krishna, the supreme master of all masters of mystic yoga, mercifully satisfied them, although He is Himself Self-satisfied. He was Himself AtmArAma, that is One who is fulfilled in Himself, by Himself for Himself. He has nothing to obtain which He does not already have. (cf. nAnavAptam-avAptavyam, .... Gita III-22). When He thus moved in intimate terms with the Gopis, very soon they thought highly of themselves. They thought they were the greatest women on Earth. And the Lord became aware of their pride and arrogant thought, and intending to bless them with the right kind of spirituality, immediately vanished! And then begins a long wailing and searching, by the Gopis. They could not stand this separation from the Lord. They lose their head and become really mad for Him. This is called the experience of ‘viraha’, separation. It is said by all exponenets of bhakti that the highest form of bhakti is the experience of this viraha from the Lord. We think we are all very devoted to God. But do we feel the pangs of separation from Him as the gopis felt? People say God does not take the offering we give Him ; but do we offer it the way Sabari offered Him? [ “lok kahte hai bhagwAn khAte nahiM; kyA haM shabarI kI taraH khilAte haim?” ]. People say that God does not come to our rescue; but do we call Him with that conviction and pangs of anxiety that was characteristic of Draupadi’s call? [ “lok kahte hai bhagwAn Ate nahiM; kyA haM draupadI kI taraH bulAte haiM?”]. People say that God does not bless us; but do we love Him with that intensity of Radha’s love? [“lok kahte hai bhagwaan prasAd karte nahiM; kyA ham rAdhA kI tarah pyAr karte haiM?”]. PraNAms to all devotees of Krishna. profvk ===== Prof. V. Krishnamurthy My website on Science and Spirituality is http://www.geocities.com/profvk/ You can access my book on Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought Vision and Practice, and my father R. Visvanatha Sastri's manuscripts from the site. Also see my webpages on Live Happily, the Gita Way at http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/contentsbeach11.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Thank you, Professorji, for this string of pearls :-) Hope everyone is enjoying it as much as I am. Pranams to you, Joyce - "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk "Harshasatsangh" <>; "Divine Lovers" <divine_lovers>; "Sadhanashakti" <Sadhana_shakti> Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:23 AM Raasa LeelA of Krishna with Gopis of Brindavan - 2 of 4 > Namaste. > > Radhe-Krishna. > Now let us come to the actual story part. Remember Krishna > was a ten-year old boy at that time. Probably even less. > The Gopis of Brindavan did a month-long Katyayani vrata. > The purpose: To get Lord Krishna as their husband (pati, in > Sanskrit). The vrata itself was a very complicated one: > Bathing in the Yamuna at daybreak, making an image of the > Goddess Parvati with sand on the river bank and > worshipping Her with all the formalities. It was at the end > of this month-long worship, the incident (as described > earlier) of the robbing of their clothes by the Lord > happened. The Lord chastised them that they had no business > to bathe naked in the river, particularly when they were > supposed to be engaged in this Katyayani vrata. After > telling them that his treatment of them was in punishment > of their misbehaviour, he gave them back their clothes; > but also promised them that very soon their desire for > sporting with the Lord, for which they did the Katyayani > vrata, would be fulfilled. And in this context, he makes a > very important statement which is significant for our > understanding of the Ras Leela: > > 'In the case of whomsoever that has turned their minds > towards Me, the desire or lust that thereby arises in them > would not result in bad, just as a fried or baked seed > would not sprout again' > (X -22 - 26): > > na may-yAveshita-dhiyAM kAmaH kAmAya kalpate / > bharjitA kathitA dhAnA prAyo bIjAya neshhyate // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Yes! sweet-heart! did you see the picture i posted in my group sadhana_shakti ? the one of radha and krishna ? professor-ji is versatile and full of love and compassion... he is also one of the moderators of Adwaithin list ... Read what i wrote in my own group pn this series!! Thank you Professor-ji! You are truly amazing ! I know you are very versatile having read your 'Science and Spirituality' web site. But, i did not know you could write on Rasa-Lila and Madhurya bhava as well. i know you are full of Bhakti for Ambaa-l from your posts on Saundarya Lahari ! anyway, i once heard that 'The sum and substance of material life is attraction for woman and Gold. (kaanch and Kaamini) . And the sum and substance of spiritual life is attraction for Radha-Krishna". SALUTATIONS TO THE LOTUS FEET OF RADHA-KRISHNA!!! , "Lady Joyce" <shaantih@c...> wrote: > Thank you, Professorji, for this string of pearls :-) > Hope everyone is enjoying it as much as I am. > > Pranams to you, > > Joyce > > > - > "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> > "Harshasatsangh" <>; "Divine Lovers" > <divine_lovers>; "Sadhanashakti" > <Sadhana_shakti> > Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:23 AM > Raasa LeelA of Krishna with Gopis of Brindavan - 2 > of 4 > > > > Namaste. > > > > Radhe-Krishna. > > Now let us come to the actual story part. Remember Krishna > > was a ten-year old boy at that time. Probably even less. > > The Gopis of Brindavan did a month-long Katyayani vrata. > > The purpose: To get Lord Krishna as their husband (pati, in > > Sanskrit). The vrata itself was a very complicated one: > > Bathing in the Yamuna at daybreak, making an image of the > > Goddess Parvati with sand on the river bank and > > worshipping Her with all the formalities. It was at the end > > of this month-long worship, the incident (as described > > earlier) of the robbing of their clothes by the Lord > > happened. The Lord chastised them that they had no business > > to bathe naked in the river, particularly when they were > > supposed to be engaged in this Katyayani vrata. After > > telling them that his treatment of them was in punishment > > of their misbehaviour, he gave them back their clothes; > > but also promised them that very soon their desire for > > sporting with the Lord, for which they did the Katyayani > > vrata, would be fulfilled. And in this context, he makes a > > very important statement which is significant for our > > understanding of the Ras Leela: > > > > 'In the case of whomsoever that has turned their minds > > towards Me, the desire or lust that thereby arises in them > > would not result in bad, just as a fried or baked seed > > would not sprout again' > > (X -22 - 26): > > > > na may-yAveshita-dhiyAM kAmaH kAmAya kalpate / > > bharjitA kathitA dhAnA prAyo bIjAya neshhyate // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 , "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> wrote: > Namaste. > > Radhe-Krishna. Namaste Prof. Krishnamurthy, Thank you so much for your postings about the Rasa Lila. Sometimes while studying vedanta one forgets the beauty of bhakti. While in university, I wrote a paper for an art history course on the Kangra Valley paintings which illustrate Jaya Dev's Gita Govind. That was my first introduction to the Rasa Lila. The explanations you are presenting of the Lila are beautiful. Please don't stop. Awaiting more, Durga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 DURGA-JI! i echo your sentiments. It is time to move away from the MUNDANE world of M M to the bhakti world of Murali Madhuri ( the sweetness iof krishna's flute ) and the Raasa-lila of Radha Krishna! Let us now create the 'mood' and atmosphere for this Raasa lila !!! Lady Joyce has already posted a beautiful message on Tagore's love of GOD! LET US FOLLOW THAT THREAD! LOVE , "Durga" <durgaji108> wrote: > , "V. Krishnamurthy" > <profvk> wrote: > > Namaste. > > > > Radhe-Krishna. > > > Namaste Prof. Krishnamurthy, > > Thank you so much for your postings about the Rasa Lila. Sometimes > while studying vedanta one forgets the beauty of bhakti. > > While in university, I wrote a paper for an art history course on > the Kangra Valley paintings which illustrate Jaya Dev's Gita Govind. > > That was my first introduction to the Rasa Lila. The explanations > you are presenting of the Lila are beautiful. > > Please don't stop. Awaiting more, Durga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 , "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > DURGA-JI! > > i echo your sentiments. > > It is time to move...to the bhakti > world of Murali Madhuri ( the sweetness iof krishna's flute ) and the > Raasa-lila of Radha Krishna! > > Let us now create the 'mood' and atmosphere for this Raasa lila !!! > > Lady Joyce has already posted a beautiful message on Tagore's love of > GOD! > > LET US FOLLOW THAT THREAD! > > LOVE Okay, Adiji, I've posted this elsewhere, but perhaps you've never seen it. It is Mirabai, (not the Rasa Lila), but the bhav..... --Durga O MY FRIENDS, What can you tell me of love, Whose pathways are filled with strangeness? when you offer the Great One your love, At the first step your body is crushed. Next be ready to offer your head as his seat. Be ready to orbit his lamp like a moth giving in to the light, To live in the deer as she runs towards the hunters call, In the partridge that swallows hot coals for the love of the moon, In the fish that, kept from the sea, happily dies. Like a bee trapped for life in the closing of the sweet flower, Mira has offered herself to her Lord. She says: the single Lotus will swallow you whole. --MIRABAI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Here are some picture links to the profs wonderful article: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter29.html http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter30.html http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter31.html http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter32.html http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter33.html Wim adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16 wrote: DURGA-JI! i echo your sentiments. It is time to move away from the MUNDANE world of M M to the bhakti world of Murali Madhuri ( the sweetness iof krishna's flute ) and the Raasa-lila of Radha Krishna! Let us now create the 'mood' and atmosphere for this Raasa lila !!! Lady Joyce has already posted a beautiful message on Tagore's love of GOD! LET US FOLLOW THAT THREAD! LOVE , "Durga" wrote: > , "V. Krishnamurthy" > wrote: > > Namaste. > > > > Radhe-Krishna. > > > Namaste Prof. Krishnamurthy, > > Thank you so much for your postings about the Rasa Lila. Sometimes > while studying vedanta one forgets the beauty of bhakti. > > While in university, I wrote a paper for an art history course on > the Kangra Valley paintings which illustrate Jaya Dev's Gita Govind. > > That was my first introduction to the Rasa Lila. The explanations > you are presenting of the Lila are beautiful. > > Please don't stop. Awaiting more, Durga /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Dear Wim: Thank you so much for finding those links. The images are so beautiful, they melt my heart. And the Raasa LeelA? Waiting and wishing. Love, Joyce > Here are some picture links to the profs wonderful article: > > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter29.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter30.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter31.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter32.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter33.html > > Wim > > > > adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16 wrote: > DURGA-JI! > > i echo your sentiments. > > It is time to move away from the MUNDANE world of M M to the bhakti > world of Murali Madhuri ( the sweetness iof krishna's flute ) and the > Raasa-lila of Radha Krishna! > > Let us now create the 'mood' and atmosphere for this Raasa lila !!! > > Lady Joyce has already posted a beautiful message on Tagore's love of > GOD! > > LET US FOLLOW THAT THREAD! > > LOVE > > , "Durga" > wrote: > > , "V. Krishnamurthy" > > > wrote: > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Radhe-Krishna. > > > > > > Namaste Prof. Krishnamurthy, > > > > Thank you so much for your postings about the Rasa Lila. Sometimes > > while studying vedanta one forgets the beauty of bhakti. > > > > While in university, I wrote a paper for an art history course on > > the Kangra Valley paintings which illustrate Jaya Dev's Gita Govind. > > > > That was my first introduction to the Rasa Lila. The explanations > > you are presenting of the Lila are beautiful. > > > > Please don't stop. Awaiting more, Durga > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 Thanks my dear Joyce, and knowing that we are both sitting here, hearts-a-melting, gives the feeling of love just another round, spiralling that love to an even higher level... Wim Lady Joyce <shaantih wrote: Dear Wim: Thank you so much for finding those links. The images are so beautiful, they melt my heart. And the Raasa LeelA? Waiting and wishing. Love, Joyce > Here are some picture links to the profs wonderful article: > > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter29.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter30.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter31.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter32.html > http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto10/chapter33.html > > Wim > > > > adi_shakthi16 wrote: > DURGA-JI! > > i echo your sentiments. > > It is time to move away from the MUNDANE world of M M to the bhakti > world of Murali Madhuri ( the sweetness iof krishna's flute ) and the > Raasa-lila of Radha Krishna! > > Let us now create the 'mood' and atmosphere for this Raasa lila !!! > > Lady Joyce has already posted a beautiful message on Tagore's love of > GOD! > > LET US FOLLOW THAT THREAD! > > LOVE > > , "Durga" > wrote: > > , "V. Krishnamurthy" > > > wrote: > > > Namaste. > > > > > > Radhe-Krishna. > > > > > > Namaste Prof. Krishnamurthy, > > > > Thank you so much for your postings about the Rasa Lila. Sometimes > > while studying vedanta one forgets the beauty of bhakti. > > > > While in university, I wrote a paper for an art history course on > > the Kangra Valley paintings which illustrate Jaya Dev's Gita Govind. > > > > That was my first introduction to the Rasa Lila. The explanations > > you are presenting of the Lila are beautiful. > > > > Please don't stop. Awaiting more, Durga > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > > /join > > > > > > "Love itself is the actual form of God." > > Sri Ramana > > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > Links > > > > > > /join "Love itself is the actual form of God." Sri Ramana In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 JOYCE! you are waiting and wishing for Raasa-lila on a saurday night!! ME TOO, SWEET-HEART!! here is something to bring a smile to your face!! Vidyapati (1352?-1448): Love Songs to Krishna Vidyapati was born in the village of Bisapi in Madhubani, on the eastern side of north Bihar. Courtier, scholar, and prose-writer, Vidyapati, though a Bengali poet, is primarily known for his love- lyrics composed in Maithili, a language spoken in the towns and villages of Mithila. In the well-known tradition of the Kama Sutra and the influential early Indian poem called Gita Govinda by Jayadeva, Vidyapati's love-songs re-create and reveal the world of Radha and Krishna, the major erotic figures of Indian mythology and literature. Such poems convey the devotion of Krishna's worshippers through the metaphor of human erotic love. While Jayadeva's poem celebrates Krishna's love and pays comparatively little attention to Radha the woman, Vidyapati is primarily concerned with the intense passion of Radha's love. At once sensuous and sensual, descriptive and dramatic, Vidyapati's songs range beyond the mythological only to find their place in the heart of a human lover whose dreams and desires never die, whose sighs and cries never end. ---- ---------- In this poem, Krishna expresses his devotion to Radha, his principal consort. Bites and fingernail marks are considered signs of passion in Indian tradition (the Kama Sutra devotes an entire chapter to the different patterns that may be made by fingernails on the lover's skin; the associations are not sadistic, but more like "hickeys" in American tradition). The language is violent, to express the power of the union between worshipper and god; but note how the god plays the submissive role in this poem, almost as if he were worshipping the human woman. ---- ---------- For heaven's sake, listen, listen, O my darling How could you interpret some of these lines in religious terms? For heaven's sake, listen, listen, O my darling: Do not dart your cruel, angry glances at me, For I swear by the lovely pitchers of your breasts, And by your golden, glittering, snake-like necklace: If ever on earth I dare touch anyone except you, Let your necklace turn into a real snake, and bite me; And if ever my promise and words prove false, Chastise me, O darling, in the way you want to. But, now, don't hesitate to take me in your arms, Bind, bind my thirsty body with yours; bruise me With your thighs, and bite, bite me with your teeth. Let your fingernails dig deep, deep into my skin! Strangle me, for heaven's sake, with your breasts, And lock me in the prison of your body forever! ---- ---------- All my inhibition left me in a flash Krishna is a playful god, associated with tricks and games. In one of the most famous incidents in the Krishna legend, he steals the clothing of a group of bathing cowherds' wives (gopis) and exhorts them to come forth from the water to reveal themselves. The religious significance of this incident is that the believer must not hold back from uniting fully with the divine, must be utterly devoted to the god. Similar attitudes are expressed in the following poem in relation to Radha. What different emotions are expressed in this poem? ---- ---------- All my inhibition left me in a flash, When he robbed me of my clothes, But his body became my new dress. Like a bee hovering on a lotus leaf He was there in my night, on me! True, the god of love never hesitates! He is free and determined like a bird Winging toward the clouds it loves. Yet I remember the mad tricks he played, My heart restlessly burning with desire Was yet filled with fear! He promised he'd return tomorrow In the final poem, Radha has to deal with her jealousy. Krishna is the lover of all women (representing all humanity), and she cannot hope to keep him to herself. What functions do you think such a poem as this might play in a polygamous society? Does it express women's feelings, or teach how they should feel? He promised he'd return tomorrow. And I wrote everywhere on my floor: "Tomorrow." The morning broke, when they all asked: Now tell us, when will your "Tomorrow" come? Tomorrow, Tomorrow, where are you? I cried and cried, but my Tomorrow never returned! Vidyapati says: O listen, dear! Your Tomorrow became a today with other women. Translated by Azfar Hussain ********************************************************************** well, joyce!! This is Madhurya-Lila at its best!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 I FORGOT TO POST THE LINK!! http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/vi dyapati.html - , "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > JOYCE! > > you are waiting and wishing for Raasa-lila on a saurday night!! ME > TOO, SWEET-HEART!! > > here is something to bring a smile to your face!! > > Vidyapati (1352?-1448): Love Songs to Krishna > > Vidyapati was born in the village of Bisapi in Madhubani, on the > eastern side of north Bihar. Courtier, scholar, and prose-writer, > Vidyapati, though a Bengali poet, is primarily known for his love- > lyrics composed in Maithili, a language spoken in the towns and > villages of Mithila. In the well-known tradition of the Kama Sutra > and the influential early Indian poem called Gita Govinda by > Jayadeva, Vidyapati's love-songs re-create and reveal the world of > Radha and Krishna, the major erotic figures of Indian mythology and > literature. Such poems convey the devotion of Krishna's worshippers > through the metaphor of human erotic love. While Jayadeva's poem > celebrates Krishna's love and pays comparatively little attention to > Radha the woman, Vidyapati is primarily concerned with the intense > passion of Radha's love. At once sensuous and sensual, descriptive > and dramatic, Vidyapati's songs range beyond the mythological only to > find their place in the heart of a human lover whose dreams and > desires never die, whose sighs and cries never end. > > > > > -- -- > ---------- > In this poem, Krishna expresses his devotion to Radha, his principal > consort. Bites and fingernail marks are considered signs of passion > in Indian tradition (the Kama Sutra devotes an entire chapter to the > different patterns that may be made by fingernails on the lover's > skin; the associations are not sadistic, but more like "hickeys" in > American tradition). The language is violent, to express the power of > the union between worshipper and god; but note how the god plays the > submissive role in this poem, almost as if he were worshipping the > human woman. > > > > -- -- > ---------- > For heaven's sake, listen, listen, O my darling > > How could you interpret some of these lines in religious terms? > > > For heaven's sake, listen, listen, O my darling: > Do not dart your cruel, angry glances at me, > For I swear by the lovely pitchers of your breasts, > And by your golden, glittering, snake-like necklace: > If ever on earth I dare touch anyone except you, > Let your necklace turn into a real snake, and bite me; > And if ever my promise and words prove false, > Chastise me, O darling, in the way you want to. > But, now, don't hesitate to take me in your arms, > Bind, bind my thirsty body with yours; bruise me > With your thighs, and bite, bite me with your teeth. > Let your fingernails dig deep, deep into my skin! > Strangle me, for heaven's sake, with your breasts, > And lock me in the prison of your body forever! > > > > > -- -- > ---------- > All my inhibition left me in a flash > > Krishna is a playful god, associated with tricks and games. In one of > the most famous incidents in the Krishna legend, he steals the > clothing of a group of bathing cowherds' wives (gopis) and exhorts > them to come forth from the water to reveal themselves. The religious > significance of this incident is that the believer must not hold back > from uniting fully with the divine, must be utterly devoted to the > god. Similar attitudes are expressed in the following poem in > relation to Radha. > > > What different emotions are expressed in this poem? > > > > > -- -- > ---------- > All my inhibition left me in a flash, > When he robbed me of my clothes, > But his body became my new dress. > Like a bee hovering on a lotus leaf > He was there in my night, on me! > > True, the god of love never hesitates! > He is free and determined like a bird > Winging toward the clouds it loves. > Yet I remember the mad tricks he played, > My heart restlessly burning with desire > Was yet filled with fear! > > > > He promised he'd return tomorrow > > > In the final poem, Radha has to deal with her jealousy. Krishna is > the lover of all women (representing all humanity), and she cannot > hope to keep him to herself. > > > What functions do you think such a poem as this might play in a > polygamous society? Does it express women's feelings, or teach how > they should feel? > > > He promised he'd return tomorrow. > And I wrote everywhere on my floor: > "Tomorrow." > > > The morning broke, when they all asked: > Now tell us, when will your "Tomorrow" come? > Tomorrow, Tomorrow, where are you? > I cried and cried, but my Tomorrow never returned! > > > Vidyapati says: O listen, dear! > Your Tomorrow became a today > with other women. > > Translated by Azfar Hussain > > ********************************************************************** > > well, joyce!! This is Madhurya-Lila at its best!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2004 Report Share Posted August 8, 2004 > All my inhibition left me in a flash, > When he robbed me of my clothes, > But his body became my new dress. > Like a bee hovering on a lotus leaf > He was there in my night, on me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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