Guest guest Posted August 6, 2004 Report Share Posted August 6, 2004 Namaste, 77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the All. From Me did the All come forth, and unto Me did the All extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there." Purport:O'Clery. This is Jesus talking as the Universal again. This means everything is He from the inside of a split wood to underneath the stone; There is nothing but `I AM.'...........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2004 Report Share Posted August 7, 2004 In a message dated 8/6/2004 9:01:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aoclery writes: 77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the All. From Me did the All come forth, and unto Me did the All extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there." Purport:O'Clery. This is Jesus talking as the Universal again. This means everything is He from the inside of a split wood to underneath the stone; There is nothing but `I AM.'...........ONS...Tony. That would seem the surface and obvious meaning...but this was a challenge and a direct threat to the Church, Tony. This little tidbit, which is actually not from Nag Hammadi, but a related codice and rendered more precisely, and by the way with a known duplicate on file but in Greek, suggests that this may have been part of a parable or sermon that is otherwise not described in the approved Gospels, but since the Greek version exists, one must conclude that the Church in Rome at the time of the Nicean Council felt that this statement was too divisive and dangerous to include in what would become the Canon and approved Bible. Why would that be, if it was merely this "universal I Am being quoted?" Curiously enough, real scholars have debated this for more than 25 years, and the threads of this are very intriguing indeed. To "split the wood" is a carpenter's term and it can mean "to build a church (building)" or it can mean "to sunder a church (building)" To "lift up the stone" is different than to say "to lift up a stone." Why? "The Stone" or "The Rock" was Peter, whom Jesus gave authority to "build his church upon." That is why the Church in Rome is called St. Peter's. To lift up the Stone" literally would suggest to look inside the Church in the Vatican, at St. Peter's to find the secret or true revelation of Jesus and his teachings. So the actual real meaning is much more transcendent and eerie. Jesus knew that his ministry would succeed, despite his crucifixion. Jesus also had seen a future where the power and authority of the very "Rock" upon which his minstry or church was founded, would become shrouded in deception, and his true teachings hidden from sincere Christians. He also then believed that if a person wished to find this true Christian and spirit knowledge of Jesus, that they would have to overturn the Church at the Vatican oneday. Split the wood, lift THE stone is an injunction to revolution and to seek beyond the convenient and codified canon and statements of the Church as it has become. I agree with the suggestion, We should all, in our own way, "Split the wood, and lift the stone." Never accept things as they are at first presented and take action to reveal the inner truth in all things. Oh, and Tony--- It does not mean to seek enlightenment from within, either. LOL Peace, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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